the 2011 Dartmoor Toxic is 3.5" rise, 8 degree back, 5 degree up. the 2011 NS Proof is 3.3" rise, 10 degree back, 4 degree up
edit: i was a little loaded and kinda went too far in my response. for that i apologize
I ride these basrs they feel amazing The rise is like 3.5 defo get them much better than ns and there steel with interenal gussets
Are you talking the NS 2010 bars or the 2011. I have the 2011 with 3.3" and am looking into getting the district 4" rise I have no complaints on them they are super smooth. I have to admit when I got them I pressed down and they flexed a bit which freaked me out at first . But later found out they where designed that way. You don't even notice it when you ride and my wrist are loving the comfort.
is anybody subscribed to this? if so, keep an eye out as ive gotten all the info i need to start a group buy(cheeaapppp), just waiting on the mods to tell me where to post it
S&M "4Q" heat treated 4130 chromoly in 0.065" or 0.083" 30" wide(cut yourself) 3.5" rise 9 degrees back 5 degrees up 22.2mm clamp no cross bar made in USA
that is NOT final, im open to suggestion, we can take a vote/poll, whatever. also, color/finish, logos, even the name of the bar WILL be a group decision
"...minimum qty on private label manufacturing is 25 pcs, and at that qty we could make a basic handlebar for anywhere between $20 and $40 depending on material, heat-treat, design, finish, etc..."
im not in it for profit. if the bars cost $32.67 to make and $6 to ship, we would each pay $38.67 for limited production S&M MTB bars
[edit] forgot to add bar material and country of origin