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flag Adamrideshisbike
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Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 10:35 Quote
mafflin wrote:
bkchef2000 wrote:
Is that an aluminum Hightower??? I’m seriously considering one but rumor has it, they are hefty...

As already mentioned, it's a Nomad.
And it's not light. Complete build is arounf 16kg.
I guess, alu Hightower's frame weight is not that far from Nomads.

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So to put it into context for the N.Amer. crowd, 7.5 pounds with shock.

Anyone know what the same size in carbon would be? 6.5 pounds? In other words, going alum with Santa Cruz adds a pound or it is worse than that?

Personally, a one pound (or 1.2) premium for alum is pretty reasonable. Closer to 1.5-2 pounds and I'd pay for carbon.
flag badbadleroybrown
Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 10:38 Quote
Adamrideshisbike wrote:
mafflin wrote:
bkchef2000 wrote:
Is that an aluminum Hightower??? I’m seriously considering one but rumor has it, they are hefty...

As already mentioned, it's a Nomad.
And it's not light. Complete build is arounf 16kg.
I guess, alu Hightower's frame weight is not that far from Nomads.

photo

So to put it into context for the N.Amer. crowd, 7.5 pounds with shock.

Anyone know what the same size in carbon would be? 6.5 pounds? In other words, going alum with Santa Cruz adds a pound or it is worse than that?

Personally, a one pound (or 1.2) premium for alum is pretty reasonable.
I don't even think it's that much... it might be close to a pound comparing a CC frame to alloy but it's probably a half pound or less between a C frame and alloy I'd bet.

Edit - Actually it looks like that photo is without shock, so it may be a bit more substantial difference after all.
flag kwapik
Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 10:43 Quote
bkchef2000 wrote:
Is that an aluminum Hightower??? I’m seriously considering one but rumor has it, they are hefty...

Here's a large alloy Hightower v2 frame
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flag Adamrideshisbike
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Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 10:46 Quote
10 lb! Wow. Anyone know the equivalent carbon frame is.
flag kwapik
Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 10:57 Quote
Other Hightowers v2 frames I have weighed:

Another alloy 4.22kg
"C" carbon fiber 3.13kg

An xl Tallboy v4
"CC" cf 3.02kg
flag Rattsl
Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 10:57 Quote
To excited not to show it, but new to me Genius 720 I'll be building. Hopefully I'll have it done by next week. Still getting a few more parts to finish it.
2k18 Scott Genius 720
flag NorCalNomad
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Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 11:12 Quote
Awh shit, Rattsl is still around here! With the same scene girl avatar lol That reduced travel thing they have going with the rear shock ride well?
flag moferenc
Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 11:49 Quote
Adamrideshisbike wrote:
10 lb! Wow. Anyone know the equivalent carbon frame is.

the cc bronson almost 1kg lighter than the alu one.
flag Rattsl
Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 11:52 Quote
NorCalNomad wrote:
Awh shit, Rattsl is still around here! With the same scene girl avatar lol That reduced travel thing they have going with the rear shock ride well?
Gonna run it without that twinlock deal. So 150 all the time.
flag mafflin
Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 12:30 Quote
Adamrideshisbike wrote:
mafflin wrote:
bkchef2000 wrote:
Is that an aluminum Hightower??? I’m seriously considering one but rumor has it, they are hefty...

As already mentioned, it's a Nomad.
And it's not light. Complete build is arounf 16kg.
I guess, alu Hightower's frame weight is not that far from Nomads.

photo

So to put it into context for the N.Amer. crowd, 7.5 pounds with shock.

Anyone know what the same size in carbon would be? 6.5 pounds? In other words, going alum with Santa Cruz adds a pound or it is worse than that?

Personally, a one pound (or 1.2) premium for alum is pretty reasonable. Closer to 1.5-2 pounds and I'd pay for carbon.

It's without a shock. Size M.
C version in the same size is 2830.
So, it's around 0.6 kg or 1.3 pounds.
flag bkchef2000
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Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 12:35 Quote
10lb frame! I’m out for sure!
flag ricochetrabbit
Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 13:10 Quote
Is there a more ambiguous bike company than Santa Cruz? Geez
flag NotNamed
Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 13:23 Quote
badbadleroybrown wrote:
They seem to lean more towards durability than light weight... my 5010 frame was like 7.5 lbs with shock I think. On a mountain bike, I'd pretty much always take an extra pound for extra durability unless I was going for ultra light XC build.
More like cost-cutting than anything else to be fair.

A Last Coal weights a lot less and is as durable... Funnily priced the Same
flag mafflin
Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 13:39 Quote
ricochetrabbit wrote:
Is there a more ambiguous bike company than Santa Cruz? Geez

Well, I had a aluminium YT Jeffsy before the Nomad...
Yeah, the whole bike costs same amount as a SC frame but the weight is very close, considering Jeffsy is a trail bike...

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flag Thorjensen
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Posted: Jul 16, 2020 at 14:02 Quote
Geez.
Suddenly my size Large aluminum Bird AM9 frame with RS Super Deluxe Ultimate shock, X-cable holders and ISCG mount weigh 3580g, seems light'ish.

 


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