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Posted: Apr 22, 2021 at 10:39 Quote
meebo wrote:
ScaryGuiTarS wrote:
Thanks. Well this is yet another vote for the Assegai up front. Almost ordered the Bontrager XR4, but I'm gonna' take in a few more suggestions. I'm "getting by" ok w/the stock Butcher, but clearly need something with a bit more sidewall stability, so when it's turning a bit in rougher sections it doesn't give-in or fold too quickly.

When I put more PSI in the Butcher, it rolls well, but hasn't enough grip and traction. I just have to make up my mind soon and just try something, anything lol. Love this DHR2 on the back though!

~JSV

Consider magic mary front and big betty rear.

my ebike riding buddy swears by this combo.

Posted: Apr 22, 2021 at 10:44 Quote
I used to run a Magic Mary on the front, then I tried an Assegai. I wouldn't go back.

Posted: Apr 22, 2021 at 11:01 Quote
commental wrote:
I used to run a Magic Mary on the front, then I tried an Assegai. I wouldn't go back.

i have been running DHF for so long but have a 2.5 assegai to try out one my current DHF wears out. i am interested to see how it goes- it is significantly heavier than the EXO DHF (2.5 or 2.6) but a bit lighter than the DH casing DHF (2.5)

Posted: Apr 22, 2021 at 11:10 Quote
BurgerBeef wrote:
dirtnapped wrote:
Slam that stem 38mm rise bars

2mm of spacers, Slamthatstem dust cover, 38mm (I think?) rise Deity Blacklabel bars. Someone bought a fork with a steerer tube that ended up being a bit too short.

Do you perhaps know what the stock stack height is on this bike?

I'm building one up and the original owner says the steerer tube was never cut, but I can't help but feel there is not much stack height to work with to have been spec's as stock.

Thanks in advance!

Sorry, I got the frame and built it up. There's a pretty active Meta forum here if that helps:

https://www.pinkbike.com/forum/x_directtolastpost/?threadid=206983&commentid=6996210

Posted: Apr 22, 2021 at 11:56 Quote
twonsarelli wrote:
commental wrote:
I used to run a Magic Mary on the front, then I tried an Assegai. I wouldn't go back.

i have been running DHF for so long but have a 2.5 assegai to try out one my current DHF wears out. i am interested to see how it goes- it is significantly heavier than the EXO DHF (2.5 or 2.6) but a bit lighter than the DH casing DHF (2.5)

Have tried both. If you want grip, Assegai for the win. DHF rolls far better, but on loose over hard I found myself suffering several times because transition from central to side knobs.

Posted: Apr 22, 2021 at 12:09 Quote
twonsarelli wrote:
commental wrote:
I used to run a Magic Mary on the front, then I tried an Assegai. I wouldn't go back.

i have been running DHF for so long but have a 2.5 assegai to try out one my current DHF wears out. i am interested to see how it goes- it is significantly heavier than the EXO DHF (2.5 or 2.6) but a bit lighter than the DH casing DHF (2.5)

I run a dhf exo+ for pedally days. For the bike park I run 2.5 assegai Double Down. If you're looking for all out grip and durability you can't beat it with a stick.

Posted: Apr 22, 2021 at 12:32 Quote
Would you guys say that a 2.5 minion DHF exo+ (Front) And a 2.3 maxxis shorty exo+, (rear) both with cushcore are as stiff as a double down casing?

Posted: Apr 22, 2021 at 13:16 Quote
AssGuy 2.6 / Aggressor 2.5. Killer combo

Posted: Apr 22, 2021 at 13:56 Quote
fredro wrote:
AssGuy 2.6 / Aggressor 2.5. Killer combo

Can confirm one of my favorite combos.

Posted: Apr 22, 2021 at 14:23 Quote
twonsarelli wrote:
meebo wrote:
ScaryGuiTarS wrote:
Thanks. Well this is yet another vote for the Assegai up front. Almost ordered the Bontrager XR4, but I'm gonna' take in a few more suggestions. I'm "getting by" ok w/the stock Butcher, but clearly need something with a bit more sidewall stability, so when it's turning a bit in rougher sections it doesn't give-in or fold too quickly.

When I put more PSI in the Butcher, it rolls well, but hasn't enough grip and traction. I just have to make up my mind soon and just try something, anything lol. Love this DHR2 on the back though!

~JSV

Consider magic mary front and big betty rear.

my ebike riding buddy swears by this combo.

Aye, i was running magic mary/hans dampf combo and now i wanted to try maxxis so i went with assegai/dhr2 combo and it serms like something is lacking that schwalbe has, specially the mary felt more supportive than assegai.

Posted: Apr 22, 2021 at 14:34 Quote
meebo wrote:
twonsarelli wrote:
meebo wrote:


Consider magic mary front and big betty rear.

my ebike riding buddy swears by this combo.

Aye, i was running magic mary/hans dampf combo and now i wanted to try maxxis so i went with assegai/dhr2 combo and it serms like something is lacking that schwalbe has, specially the mary felt more supportive than assegai.

Which version of the Assegai did you go with. I found the EXO maxxterra to be good but tricky to get tire pressure right with.

Posted: Apr 22, 2021 at 16:13 Quote
I AM sincerely interested in many of these tire options, which I WILL LIKELY purchase one or another on my next tire change. I've made several notes on these, I trust your input because I know you've all had experience with many tires that I haven't.

With that said, and weighing my options, looking for something commonly suggested, and needing to make a decision asap, I figured a good match (hopefully I'll like it) for my DHR2 on my carbon Roval 30mm rims would be this:
Assegai Wide Trail 29 X 2.6
https://www.backcountry.com/maxxis-assegai-tire-29in
I like the tread. I like the lower TPI, I like that it's a bit stiffer/heavier than a few others I'm contemplating, so I ordered that.

Let's hope for the best, and it's only a tire, I can go for one of those XR4's or something else on the list if I don't dig it.

I'm really impressed w/all the help everyone was generous enough to offer. I've said it a hundred times, this PB forum is THE BEST to get actual useful help from riders that really know their sh*t.

~JSV

Posted: Apr 22, 2021 at 16:29 Quote
mtbman1980 wrote:
meebo wrote:
twonsarelli wrote:


my ebike riding buddy swears by this combo.

Aye, i was running magic mary/hans dampf combo and now i wanted to try maxxis so i went with assegai/dhr2 combo and it serms like something is lacking that schwalbe has, specially the mary felt more supportive than assegai.

Which version of the Assegai did you go with. I found the EXO maxxterra to be good but tricky to get tire pressure right with.

If you ride aggressive at all or are a heavier rider you will not be very happy with EXO casing. Go with at least EXO+

Posted: Apr 22, 2021 at 16:47 Quote
ScaryGuiTarS wrote:
I AM sincerely interested in many of these tire options, which I WILL LIKELY purchase one or another on my next tire change. I've made several notes on these, I trust your input because I know you've all had experience with many tires that I haven't.

With that said, and weighing my options, looking for something commonly suggested, and needing to make a decision asap, I figured a good match (hopefully I'll like it) for my DHR2 on my carbon Roval 30mm rims would be this:
Assegai Wide Trail 29 X 2.6
https://www.backcountry.com/maxxis-assegai-tire-29in
I like the tread. I like the lower TPI, I like that it's a bit stiffer/heavier than a few others I'm contemplating, so I ordered that.

Let's hope for the best, and it's only a tire, I can go for one of those XR4's or something else on the list if I don't dig it.

I'm really impressed w/all the help everyone was generous enough to offer. I've said it a hundred times, this PB forum is THE BEST to get actual useful help from riders that really know their sh*t.

~JSV

where are you located, what do you ride terrain wise, how do you ride? I have been a tire whore for a long time before getting an XR4 to try. To take a suggestion here without understanding what and how the rest of us ride is doing yourself a disservice. I would not use an XR4 for more downhill, jump line stuff like many do here. You really need to dig into what you want in a tire and match best you can to what and how you ride.

I know I do not want a heavy tire (sub 800 grams). I know I don't need it. I want something I can depend on to grip in most conditions, from dry loose to mud. I want a tire that rolls well. I do not want to spend a bunch on a mtn bike tire. The XR4 fit that bill. Others did too, but it has been the best of those I have used, which include: Rekon 2.6, Ardent Race 2.35 or 2.4, Panaracer XCPro 2.35, DHRII 2.3, DHF, Forekaster 2.35, Bonty XR4.

I ride in the foothills and mtns of NC. most of what I ride is considered XCish, with lots of roots, some rocky sections, loose over hard, sandy, to groomed smooth trails. In the mtns typical mtn stuff like Pisgah, Dupont, Bent Creek. Lots of technical terrain, long climbs, etc. I like to go down hill as fast as I can stand, carve corners. I like to get a little air, but definitely not into big jumps. I like to hit the trail trash going down just to let the bike eat. I weigh 210 lbs nekked at 52 and come from a dirt bike background after spending several years prior riding the old school mtn bikes in the same terrain I do now. I ride a 2019 Highttower LT. Maybe this helps.


 
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