Well..diff strokes for diff folks..I don't think I would have noticed much of performance diff in casette upgrade (only 125grams diff between deore and xt)...now shifter chain derailer diff story.
Agreed. I’ve never changed cassettes and noticed a difference on the trail. There are so many variables that come into play. On the flip side, there seems to be good evidence that increased frame weight, ideally located as low as possible, also has benefits to handling and suspension performance on account of the increased inertia. Ebikers are constantly telling me how well their suspension performs with an extra 20 pounds stacked on their BB
It's the difference between sprung, and unsprung mass that gives the suspension that amazing feeling.
I've recently gone from Deore to XTR on my emtb, don't notice the difference at all to be honest, but I got the cassette at XT pricing so no huge deal.
But recently going from cushcore pro to no insert.... definately noticed an improvement. There is ~300g difference there in outer inertia. I just have to run DD casing and sensible pressures. So far my rear wheel is alive see how long it last though, the cushcore really has paid for itself countless times. Looking at it after removal, looks like a rat has been biting it, but those nibble marks would be rim dings I'm pretty certain had it not been in there.
what are the benefits of going for highend(like the xtr cassette) drivetrain components on a ebike? imho a few 100gramms of weight diff is no issue, and longetivity is more desirable.
It's the difference between sprung, and unsprung mass that gives the suspension that amazing feeling.
I've recently gone from Deore to XTR on my emtb, don't notice the difference at all to be honest, but I got the cassette at XT pricing so no huge deal.
But recently going from cushcore pro to no insert.... definately noticed an improvement. There is ~300g difference there in outer inertia. I just have to run DD casing and sensible pressures. So far my rear wheel is alive see how long it last though, the cushcore really has paid for itself countless times. Looking at it after removal, looks like a rat has been biting it, but those nibble marks would be rim dings I'm pretty certain had it not been in there.
Why did you remove the cushcore if it’s been doing such a good job? Is the improvement in suspension feel worth it in this case?
Just to experiment if it makes an improvement, also I simply HATE changing tyres with it, no matter how many I do still a pain in the ass!
Feel ya there. Cushcore ain't fun. The only reason I'm using it right now is cuz i have a nice old n stretched cushcore from 2 years ago. Thing was as loose as a ___ heheh. Still some rim protection. but about as easy to throw in as you can imagine. I wouldnt' buy one new again though. Its too much of a pain in the ass
It's a really sweet bike, loves to go really fast! The geometry is a bit more extreme than my previous bike (Process 153 29 carbon) but it still remains nimble and lively. It really loves the steep and chunky stuff!
It's a really sweet bike, loves to go really fast! The geometry is a bit more extreme than my previous bike (Process 153 29 carbon) but it still remains nimble and lively. It really loves the steep and chunky stuff!
how do you find the climbing performance? the highlander had great traction and all that but it was very tiring. the stumpy evo i bought after selling it is WAY more rapid on the ascents. curious if you find the same between the kona and this
It's a really sweet bike, loves to go really fast! The geometry is a bit more extreme than my previous bike (Process 153 29 carbon) but it still remains nimble and lively. It really loves the steep and chunky stuff!
how do you find the climbing performance? the highlander had great traction and all that but it was very tiring. the stumpy evo i bought after selling it is WAY more rapid on the ascents. curious if you find the same between the kona and this
wow i had a highlander on my short list to try, but if it climbs that much worse than the stumpy evo (the worst climbing bike ive ridden in recent memory), maybe not.
It's a really sweet bike, loves to go really fast! The geometry is a bit more extreme than my previous bike (Process 153 29 carbon) but it still remains nimble and lively. It really loves the steep and chunky stuff!
how do you find the climbing performance? the highlander had great traction and all that but it was very tiring. the stumpy evo i bought after selling it is WAY more rapid on the ascents. curious if you find the same between the kona and this
wow i had a highlander on my short list to try, but if it climbs that much worse than the stumpy evo (the worst climbing bike ive ridden in recent memory), maybe not.
i guess it must be very individual because my evo feels equally as fast on the climbs as my SB130 and i would say that yetis are the best climbing bikes i have ever ridden. the highlander just felt so SLOW on the climbs and my ebike riding partners would frequently comment on how much faster i was when i rode anything other than the highlander. i loved that bike though, especially on the descents. it was absolutely the best downhill smashing bike i've ever had, so if your riding skews to that side of things, i doubt you'd be disappointed. also worth mentioning that i did do several 40-50 mile rides on the highlander and it was fine, just slower than it would have been otherwise (and i wouldn't have wanted to do another 10-20 miles beyond that)
how do you find the climbing performance? the highlander had great traction and all that but it was very tiring. the stumpy evo i bought after selling it is WAY more rapid on the ascents. curious if you find the same between the kona and this
wow i had a highlander on my short list to try, but if it climbs that much worse than the stumpy evo (the worst climbing bike ive ridden in recent memory), maybe not.
i guess it must be very individual because my evo feels equally as fast on the climbs as my SB130 and i would say that yetis are the best climbing bikes i have ever ridden. the highlander just felt so SLOW on the climbs and my ebike riding partners would frequently comment on how much faster i was when i rode anything other than the highlander. i loved that bike though, especially on the descents. it was absolutely the best downhill smashing bike i've ever had, so if your riding skews to that side of things, i doubt you'd be disappointed. also worth mentioning that i did do several 40-50 mile rides on the highlander and it was fine, just slower than it would have been otherwise (and i wouldn't have wanted to do another 10-20 miles beyond that)
yeah maybe i just had the evo set up weird, it felt like the slug for real. and the tons of set up changes maybe help; i just got a rocky altitude and had it set up in the short chainstay setting the first few rides and really just didnt like it but then moved it to the long setting and its been so insane, the bike just knows what i want to it to do and it does it. huge difference that 10mm makes.
wow i had a highlander on my short list to try, but if it climbs that much worse than the stumpy evo (the worst climbing bike ive ridden in recent memory), maybe not.
i guess it must be very individual because my evo feels equally as fast on the climbs as my SB130 and i would say that yetis are the best climbing bikes i have ever ridden. the highlander just felt so SLOW on the climbs and my ebike riding partners would frequently comment on how much faster i was when i rode anything other than the highlander. i loved that bike though, especially on the descents. it was absolutely the best downhill smashing bike i've ever had, so if your riding skews to that side of things, i doubt you'd be disappointed. also worth mentioning that i did do several 40-50 mile rides on the highlander and it was fine, just slower than it would have been otherwise (and i wouldn't have wanted to do another 10-20 miles beyond that)
yeah maybe i just had the evo set up weird, it felt like the slug for real. and the tons of set up changes maybe help; i just got a rocky altitude and had it set up in the short chainstay setting the first few rides and really just didnt like it but then moved it to the long setting and its been so insane, the bike just knows what i want to it to do and it does it. huge difference that 10mm makes.
What year evo were you on? Was it the current gen or an earlier model? i'm on a '22 and it is rapid
i guess it must be very individual because my evo feels equally as fast on the climbs as my SB130 and i would say that yetis are the best climbing bikes i have ever ridden. the highlander just felt so SLOW on the climbs and my ebike riding partners would frequently comment on how much faster i was when i rode anything other than the highlander. i loved that bike though, especially on the descents. it was absolutely the best downhill smashing bike i've ever had, so if your riding skews to that side of things, i doubt you'd be disappointed. also worth mentioning that i did do several 40-50 mile rides on the highlander and it was fine, just slower than it would have been otherwise (and i wouldn't have wanted to do another 10-20 miles beyond that)
yeah maybe i just had the evo set up weird, it felt like the slug for real. and the tons of set up changes maybe help; i just got a rocky altitude and had it set up in the short chainstay setting the first few rides and really just didnt like it but then moved it to the long setting and its been so insane, the bike just knows what i want to it to do and it does it. huge difference that 10mm makes.
What year evo were you on? Was it the current gen or an earlier model? i'm on a '22 and it is rapid
Current model. the black and minty green one, i think it was a gx spec.
Hello Guys! Bike pedals well for a 37lb. bike haha! Am a big fan of the more upright seated position, this makes it a slightly better climber than my kona used to be, it tends to just keep traction on the rear wheel and never slip out. While this bike is clearly more downhill inspired than the "playful" nature/geometry of the kona, it is surprisingly nimble and fun to ride on more tame trails with switchbacks or tighter jumps