All this diet talk is hilariously on topic. ...but also I work with a vegan and a keto, and both of them are always arguing about this shit. I just hear 'keto' now and I'm triggered lol
The only reason why I'm a proponent of keto is because it worked so well for me. I lost basically 1-3 lbs every day.
The most effective diet I ever did was a low carb diet. Wasn't quite keto but it was close - I basically just ate meat, fish, eggs, fruit and veg.
What makes keto/lowcarb good is you can basically just follow one rule - no carbs - and after that eat pretty much what you want - and it works, but for me you have to reconcile that with the environmental and ethical issues with eating such a meat heavy lifestyle.
All this diet talk is hilariously on topic. ...but also I work with a vegan and a keto, and both of them are always arguing about this shit. I just hear 'keto' now and I'm triggered lol
The only reason why I'm a proponent of keto is because it worked so well for me. I lost basically 1-3 lbs every day.
The most effective diet I ever did was a low carb diet. Wasn't quite keto but it was close - I basically just ate meat, fish, eggs, fruit and veg.
What makes keto/lowcarb good is you can basically just follow one rule - no carbs - and after that eat pretty much what you want - and it works, but for me you have to reconcile that with the environmental and ethical issues with eating such a meat heavy lifestyle.
What ethical issues with eating meat? Meat is delicious.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that hunters kept their prey in shit infested barely ventilated rooms with special lighting so the eventual products don't kill each other, while being pumped so full of hormones and antibiotics just so they can survive to culling and be a sellable size. Got me good there man.
I understand that all meat will come at a cost, I literally just said I'm mostly keto and understand this, and accept it as part of my diet. Even I can accept the meat industry is f*cked up and could use some renovations. There's reasons there's media snuff laws regarding filming meat factories and related production centers.
Have you seen a wild predator kill their prey?Humans are quite humane in comparison.
Factory farmed meat is far far from humane in comparison. I’d much rather hunt my own than buy farmed meat, which is exactly what I do when back home in Aus.
What ethical issues with eating meat? Meat is delicious.
Meat is delicious, but mass scale farming is pretty grim and far from natural.
>70% of chickens raised for meat globally are raised in intensive industrial farming systems.
Intensive farming = indoors, crammed in, shitty lighting, bread to grow unnaturally big very quickly...
Most farmed animals are kept indoors, particularly chickens and pigs. Because of that they're not normally able to eat what they would eat naturally, so they're instead fed livestock feed, which tends to be either soy, grain or corn based, which needs to be grown elsewhere and shipped in.
It's pretty shit. It's a lot better if you can buy organic/free range/grass fed etc but if you're eating meat 3 meals a day 7 days a week that is very hard to do and gets real expensive real quick.
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If I had the means and the time and the resources to hunt my meat, I totally would.
I would too, but that doesn't mean eating tonnes of cheap meat isn't problematic in the meantime.
Just to be clear I'm not necessarily against eating meat all together, we should all try to be aware of how much meat we're eating and where it comes from. That's why I find it hard to wholeheartedly recommend keto.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that hunters kept their prey in shit infested barely ventilated rooms with special lighting so the eventual products don't kill each other, while being pumped so full of hormones and antibiotics just so they can survive to culling and be a sellable size. Got me good there man.
I understand that all meat will come at a cost, I literally just said I'm mostly keto and understand this, and accept it as part of my diet. Even I can accept the meat industry is f*cked up and could use some renovations. There's reasons there's media snuff laws regarding filming meat factories and related production centers.
This props to you if you hunt and kill your meat but claiming that wild predators are way less humane than the shitshow we call “agriculture” is just being dumb, but im honestly not surprised he said that given his other arguments in this thread
The beef industry is rather large in my area, but everything is free range, it's pretty easy to but a couple directly from the farmer and get it butchered at your butcher shop of choice.