Enduro/AM - The Weight Game

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Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 12:00 Quote
Can we get a spec list on the Hei Hei please?

Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 12:04 Quote
whattheheel wrote:
Can we get a spec list on the Hei Hei please?

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Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 12:06 Quote
whattheheel wrote:
Can we get a spec list on the Hei Hei please?

X01 AXS Groupset
DT180 hubs to newmen advanced sl 25 rims with berd spokes
extralite stem
mcfk handlebar
sensus lite grips
s works renegade 29x2.3 tires
one up 210mm dropper with s work power arc saddle
120mm sid ultimate
cane creek 40 headset
candy 3 pedals
sram level ultimate brakes with floating centerlock sram rotors

stock rock shox deluxe shock which will get a sidluxe at some point

Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 12:45 Quote
mr-wilson wrote:
whattheheel wrote:
Can we get a spec list on the Hei Hei please?

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Shot down by the hoser. Thanks tbeezle.

Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 13:57 Quote
Thinking of getting a new bike but I kind of want to reduce the travel on it from 180mm to 170mm. It has a 65mm stroke shock on it so I would reduce that to 62.5mm to get about 173mm of travel. Also the bike has a high and low BB mode. I would want to run it in low setting to not lose too much head angle from running a 170mm fork. In low mode it has a 63.5mm HA and 348mm BB height. My question is how badly will this effect the geo? I have read a rough estimate that 20mm of fork change is roughly 1° of HA change. So a 10mm difference would only bump up it up to about 64°.
Is this a stupid idea or should I just go for it. Also it should be noted I can get a really good deal on the bike which is why i am going to these lengths to change it instead of just getting something else.

Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 14:07 Quote
DOO EET!! Could always use offset bushings or angleset to play with as well.

Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 14:08 Quote
mixmastamikal wrote:
Thinking of getting a new bike but I kind of want to reduce the travel on it from 180mm to 170mm. It has a 65mm stroke shock on it so I would reduce that to 62.5mm to get about 173mm of travel. Also the bike has a high and low BB mode. I would want to run it in low setting to not lose too much head angle from running a 170mm fork. In low mode it has a 63.5mm HA and 348mm BB height. My question is how badly will this effect the geo? I have read a rough estimate that 20mm of fork change is roughly 1° of HA change. So a 10mm difference would only bump up it up to about 64°.
Is this a stupid idea or should I just go for it. Also it should be noted I can get a really good deal on the bike which is why i am going to these lengths to change it instead of just getting something else.
Which bike is it? I say go for it!

My thought is that the head/seat tube angles wouldn't be drastically different in the low setting with a 170mm fork than in the high setting with a 180mm fork. However, the bb would be lower as both slack mode and shorter fork would drop the bb. I'm guessing a 10mm decrease in fork length would result in a 3-5mm drop in bb height, so as long as it doesn't already have a super low bb in slack mode, it should be fine. I don't think the change in the feel of the rear travel would be too crazy unless the bike has some weird design where all of the progression/ramp up occurs in the last 1.5mm of shock stroke, which seems unlikely.

EDIT: Plus what the dolphin said ^

Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 14:14 Quote
tbeezle wrote:
whattheheel wrote:
Can we get a spec list on the Hei Hei please?

X01 AXS Groupset
DT180 hubs to newmen advanced sl 25 rims with berd spokes
extralite stem
mcfk handlebar
sensus lite grips
s works renegade 29x2.3 tires
one up 210mm dropper with s work power arc saddle
120mm sid ultimate
cane creek 40 headset
candy 3 pedals
sram level ultimate brakes with floating centerlock sram rotors

stock rock shox deluxe shock which will get a sidluxe at some point

Sick build. Will the Hei Hei fit a bigger tire than the 2.3 you're running?

Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 14:17 Quote
seraph wrote:
tbeezle wrote:
whattheheel wrote:
Can we get a spec list on the Hei Hei please?

X01 AXS Groupset
DT180 hubs to newmen advanced sl 25 rims with berd spokes
extralite stem
mcfk handlebar
sensus lite grips
s works renegade 29x2.3 tires
one up 210mm dropper with s work power arc saddle
120mm sid ultimate
cane creek 40 headset
candy 3 pedals
sram level ultimate brakes with floating centerlock sram rotors

stock rock shox deluxe shock which will get a sidluxe at some point

frame is said to fit a 2.5, i feel there is room for it. fork i think can clear a 2.5 as well

Sick build. Will the Hei Hei fit a bigger tire than the 2.3 you're running?

Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 14:19 Quote
tbeezle wrote:
seraph wrote:
tbeezle wrote:


X01 AXS Groupset
DT180 hubs to newmen advanced sl 25 rims with berd spokes
extralite stem
mcfk handlebar
sensus lite grips
s works renegade 29x2.3 tires
one up 210mm dropper with s work power arc saddle
120mm sid ultimate
cane creek 40 headset
candy 3 pedals
sram level ultimate brakes with floating centerlock sram rotors

stock rock shox deluxe shock which will get a sidluxe at some point

frame is said to fit a 2.5, i feel there is room for it. fork i think can clear a 2.5 as well

Sick build. Will the Hei Hei fit a bigger tire than the 2.3 you're running?

Hmm that's super tempting. Time to make geometry charts! What size frame are you running and how tall are you?

Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 14:20 Quote
iirc the new heihei is around 5lbs or just under it. It's a stupidly light frame.

Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 14:21 Quote
sherbet wrote:
iirc the new heihei is around 5lbs or just under it. It's a stupidly light frame.

Very tempting indeed... temptinger and temptinger.

Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 14:22 Quote
whattheheel wrote:
Could always use offset bushings or angleset to play with as well.

Can offset bushings be used to shorten / steepen? I was under the impression they can only lengthen the eye-to-eye and slacken.

Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 14:24 Quote
seraph wrote:
sherbet wrote:
iirc the new heihei is around 5lbs or just under it. It's a stupidly light frame.

Very tempting indeed... temptinger and temptinger.

I have been eye humping the hell out of one after my buddy bought one. Now if I could order one...

Posted: Jan 28, 2021 at 14:24 Quote
The Last Tarvo frame weighs 4.5 lbs and complete bikes weigh 25.6 lbs and it's an enduro! Just stupidly expensive


 
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