Enduro/AM - The Weight Game

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Enduro/AM - The Weight Game
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flag justgoride
Posted: Sep 29, 2021 at 14:01 Quote
badbadleroybrown wrote:
seraph wrote:
I just like classifying things.

In my [im]perfect world:

XC: 100-115mm travel (f/r), 430+ chainstay, 67-69 degree head angle, long reach.
XC Race: 60-115mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 67.5-69 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
Downcountry: 100-130mm travel, 420-430 chainstay, 64-67 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
Trail: 120-140mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 63-67 degree head angle, medium reach.
Enduro: 140-160mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 62-65 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
Super Enduro: 160-190mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 62-65 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
DH (Park): 180-220mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 62-66 degree head angle, medium reach.
DH Race: 180-200mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 63-66 degree head angle, medium reach.

Unless you're Pole/Nicolai and then you take all of those numbers and standards and shove them all in a blender and pour it into a mold and then huck it to flat.
...but, what about all mountain bikes?

its basically trail/enduro
flag Soupherb
Posted: Sep 29, 2021 at 14:15 Quote
Axxe wrote:
I do like riding bikes on dirt.

Me too, it’s fun
flag gspottickles918
Posted: Sep 29, 2021 at 14:32 Quote
seraph wrote:
I just like classifying things.

In my [im]perfect world:

XC: 100-115mm travel (f/r), 430+ chainstay, 67-69 degree head angle, long reach.
XC Race: 60-115mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 67.5-69 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
Downcountry: 100-130mm travel, 420-430 chainstay, 64-67 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
Trail: 120-140mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 63-67 degree head angle, medium reach.
Enduro: 140-160mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 62-65 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
Super Enduro: 160-190mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 62-65 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
DH (Park): 180-220mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 62-66 degree head angle, medium reach.
DH Race: 180-200mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 63-66 degree head angle, medium reach.

Unless you're Pole/Nicolai and then you take all of those numbers and standards and shove them all in a blender and pour it into a mold and then huck it to flat.

What dh race bike has a 66 degree HA?
flag badbadleroybrown
Posted: Sep 29, 2021 at 15:23 Quote
justgoride wrote:
badbadleroybrown wrote:
seraph wrote:
I just like classifying things.

In my [im]perfect world:

XC: 100-115mm travel (f/r), 430+ chainstay, 67-69 degree head angle, long reach.
XC Race: 60-115mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 67.5-69 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
Downcountry: 100-130mm travel, 420-430 chainstay, 64-67 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
Trail: 120-140mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 63-67 degree head angle, medium reach.
Enduro: 140-160mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 62-65 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
Super Enduro: 160-190mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 62-65 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
DH (Park): 180-220mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 62-66 degree head angle, medium reach.
DH Race: 180-200mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 63-66 degree head angle, medium reach.

Unless you're Pole/Nicolai and then you take all of those numbers and standards and shove them all in a blender and pour it into a mold and then huck it to flat.
...but, what about all mountain bikes?

its basically trail/enduro
So... trailduro? lol
flag Soupherb
Posted: Sep 29, 2021 at 15:32 Quote
That, or entrails
flag seraph
Posted: Sep 29, 2021 at 15:52 Quote
gnarcissistictendency wrote:
seraph wrote:
I just like classifying things.

In my [im]perfect world:

XC: 100-115mm travel (f/r), 430+ chainstay, 67-69 degree head angle, long reach.
XC Race: 60-115mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 67.5-69 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
Downcountry: 100-130mm travel, 420-430 chainstay, 64-67 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
Trail: 120-140mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 63-67 degree head angle, medium reach.
Enduro: 140-160mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 62-65 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
Super Enduro: 160-190mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 62-65 degree head angle, medium to long reach.
DH (Park): 180-220mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 62-66 degree head angle, medium reach.
DH Race: 180-200mm travel, 430+ chainstay, 63-66 degree head angle, medium reach.

Unless you're Pole/Nicolai and then you take all of those numbers and standards and shove them all in a blender and pour it into a mold and then huck it to flat.

What dh race bike has a 66 degree HA?

Old DH bikes maybe. I dunno, I was trying to be inclusive.
flag notsosikmik
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Posted: Sep 29, 2021 at 17:16 Quote
Anecdotal but every person I know with a DJ bike also has another MTB bike. (Or 3)
flag seraph
Posted: Sep 29, 2021 at 17:57 Quote
I only have two bikes right now. Feels weird. The new house we're buying doesn't have a garage either so it will be tight for a while.
flag gnarnaimo
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Posted: Sep 29, 2021 at 19:10 Quote
notsosikmik wrote:
Anecdotal but every person I know with a DJ bike also has another MTB bike. (Or 3)

Same.. I'm going to chock this up to rider location making a big difference.

In places like Ontario where the hills are more few and far between, I feel it's likely there will be more people brought up with a bmx background than mtb. Here in the PNW the majority I know have been raised on mtb and a handful have dabbled/raced bmx.

When I started riding it was cool to ride a small hardtail, throw a 24" rear wheel on it and send it on everything from dirt jumps to hucking stair cases to bombing dh tracks. To me, I see a strong resemblance of my early mtb years in my modern dj bike as they are actually comparatively alot more similar than my modern trail bikes.
flag badbadleroybrown
Posted: Sep 29, 2021 at 19:17 Quote
I don't look at DJ as mountain biking at all... it's just adult sized BMX imo.
flag nubbs
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Posted: Sep 29, 2021 at 19:33 Quote
I got some tubolito orange weird 26 inch tube things for my dj. Trying to make it go faster and lighter, higher.

Its going to be so light now. Probably lighter than a mountain bike
flag swan3609
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Posted: Sep 29, 2021 at 20:17 Quote
nubbs wrote:
I got some tubolito orange weird 26 inch tube things for my dj. Trying to make it go faster and lighter, higher.

Its going to be so light now. Probably lighter than a mountain bike

My DJ is tubeless. I never ride it in a skatepark and it rarely sees big dirt jumps. But the tubeless got it down to under 22lbs for BMX racing.
flag nubbs
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Posted: Sep 29, 2021 at 22:20 Quote
swan3609 wrote:
nubbs wrote:
I got some tubolito orange weird 26 inch tube things for my dj. Trying to make it go faster and lighter, higher.

Its going to be so light now. Probably lighter than a mountain bike

My DJ is tubeless. I never ride it in a skatepark and it rarely sees big dirt jumps. But the tubeless got it down to under 22lbs for BMX racing.

Someday ill be kewl... haha!
flag gnarnaimo
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Posted: Sep 29, 2021 at 22:24 Quote
nubbs wrote:
I got some tubolito orange weird 26 inch tube things for my dj. Trying to make it go faster and lighter, higher.

Its going to be so light now. Probably lighter than a mountain bike

Wait...but it is a mountain bike. Or it isn't? I'm so confused in here

 


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