The Sexiest AM/FR/Enduro Hardtail Thread (Please read the opening post)

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The Sexiest AM/FR/Enduro Hardtail Thread (Please read the opening post)
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flag dandinoiu
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 at 1:08 Quote
SileTzar wrote:
Or vice versa, mondraker had that gusset for years now. And tbh it's not even close

They were using this detail for some time on their enduro/dh bikes
flag Soupherb
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 at 3:31 Quote
Transition throttle

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWPWwd6BktH/

Just coz, nothing amazeballs
flag wythall1
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 at 4:05 Quote
Soupherb wrote:
Transition throttle

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWPWwd6BktH/

Just coz, nothing amazeballs

Looks stunning! I am a big TR fan, but they have to massively improve their warranty, there is no way that I am buying a £1700 carbon HT frame only with a 2 year warranty! Eek
flag DumbBot
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Posted: Jul 7, 2017 at 4:53 Quote
That transition looks great, super subtle use of orange bling. Does anyone know what wheels are on that build? I don't recognize the decals.
flag OneBanana
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 at 5:54 Quote
DumbBot wrote:
That transition looks great, super subtle use of orange bling. Does anyone know what wheels are on that build? I don't recognize the decals.
Think the rims are Calavera - have looked at so many carbon wheels recently they've become a bit of a blur (considering treating myself...) but think I saw these somewhere like Merlin or Evans.

Edit: It was Merlin. Here you go: https://www.merlincycles.com/pro-build-chosen-hub-calavera-cc28-carbon-trail-wheels-275-100457.html
flag mayo-22
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 at 6:27 Quote
Soupherb wrote:
Transition throttle

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWPWwd6BktH/

Just coz, nothing amazeballs
photo
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Posted: Jul 7, 2017 at 6:34 Quote
OneBanana wrote:
Edit: It was Merlin. Here you go: https://www.merlincycles.com/pro-build-chosen-hub-calavera-cc28-carbon-trail-wheels-275-100457.html

Thanks, rims look decent...not sure about those budget chosen hubs though.
flag ratcat
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 at 6:42 Quote
DumbBot wrote:
OneBanana wrote:
Edit: It was Merlin. Here you go: https://www.merlincycles.com/pro-build-chosen-hub-calavera-cc28-carbon-trail-wheels-275-100457.html

Thanks, rims look decent...not sure about those budget chosen hubs though.

My thoughts exactly. I can't believe how many carbon wheelsets I'm seeing with budget hubs like Chosen or Novatec. When your spending that kind of money on wheels I want Hope or Hadley or something.
flag OneBanana
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 at 7:48 Quote
rAtty-c wrote:
My thoughts exactly. I can't believe how many carbon wheelsets I'm seeing with budget hubs like Chosen or Novatec. When your spending that kind of money on wheels I want Hope or Hadley or something.
^^This so much. Weird attempt to compete with direct prices from LB, Nextie etc by offering "budget" carbon wheels that still cost more than pretty much any alu rim and hub combo you like.
Have spent ages looking at this and there seem to be a few places offering what look to be their own badges rims from unspecified sources but can find basically no reviews on them, so it's an £800 wheelset with unknown rims and cheap hubs. I don't get it! Rolleyes
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Posted: Jul 7, 2017 at 8:00 Quote
If you are prepared to spend £800 on a 'cheap'(not really) set of unproven wheels....you may as well spend and extra £200 and get a nice set of sixth element or Light bicycle's carbons with hope Pro 4's. For that sort of money you'd be crazy to touch those hubs.
flag Buggyr333
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 at 8:01 Quote
craigmagee wrote:
Buggyr333 wrote:
craigmagee wrote:
Custom build booked in! 65 or 66 sagged head angle with 130mm forks ?

Custom frame? which manufacturer did you go with?

Yup, August Cycles. Had some numbers in mind but now just pondering them again. Mainly head angle. Riden the last version of the nomad with 65deg head angle and that felt fine up and down, but obviously fs, other bikes I've had/ridden have been fs, with 66.5ha and felt could be slacker. Current Cotic is 150mm @ 67deg sagged, feels ok but twitchy.

For what it's worth I designed my frame around a static 65*hta, but ended up putting a taller fork on it bringing it to 64* unsagged. I feel like slack headtube angles are very important on aggressive hardtails like this, since they're designed to do the same type of riding as these >66*hta FS bikes, but don't have any sag in the rear to offset the front.

Also if you're running a short fork, there is much less detriment to a slack HTA since it won't kick the front wheel out as far as a tall fork.
flag Mimikiri
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 at 10:39 Quote
sorry wrong image.
flag OneBanana
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 at 10:45 Quote
Dude there is something weird going on with your hardtail - got a squishy thing at the back?
flag its-chris
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 at 18:18 Quote
Buggyr333 wrote:
craigmagee wrote:
Buggyr333 wrote:


Custom frame? which manufacturer did you go with?

Yup, August Cycles. Had some numbers in mind but now just pondering them again. Mainly head angle. Riden the last version of the nomad with 65deg head angle and that felt fine up and down, but obviously fs, other bikes I've had/ridden have been fs, with 66.5ha and felt could be slacker. Current Cotic is 150mm @ 67deg sagged, feels ok but twitchy.

For what it's worth I designed my frame around a static 65*hta, but ended up putting a taller fork on it bringing it to 64* unsagged. I feel like slack headtube angles are very important on aggressive hardtails like this, since they're designed to do the same type of riding as these >66*hta FS bikes, but don't have any sag in the rear to offset the front.

Also if you're running a short fork, there is much less detriment to a slack HTA since it won't kick the front wheel out as far as a tall fork.

exactly, what I was about to say, the FS sag the rear and slack the HTA, I would not fear a 64-65 HTA on a HT

 


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