@fartymarty at a rough measure it's 1300. It's long standing next to it, but riding it it doesn't feel long, yet when speed picks up your well covered. With a short (for me, last bike had 470) 450 chainstay it's still quite moveable in tight tracks, easy to pop and wheelie too. The reach is 500 and toptube length is 640. I'm 5ft9ish but I feel really comfortable on longer bikes. I always seem to ride on the bars and fund my head over the front wheel, this bike stops me doing that