Maybe when suddenly the headtubes are deforming and loads of warranty claims come starting in? Like in the 90s before they butt the gussets under the downtubes on steel frames.
I think we'll just wait for the final review of the Grim Donut to see if you can get too slack. For me 65° turns out to be very good, even when on flat XC trails here in the Netherlands. Hell, even 64 on my fully even works pretty nicely here. 62° felt a bit floppy in the carpark, but that was with an overforked bike.
I think we'll just wait for the final review of the Grim Donut to see if you can get too slack. For me 65° turns out to be very good, even when on flat XC trails here in the Netherlands. Hell, even 64 on my fully even works pretty nicely here. 62° felt a bit floppy in the carpark, but that was with an overforked bike.
IMHO the Nicolai G1 is the result of years of development by Chris Porter and Nicolai with the G16. I wouldn't see things going much further than that. They have tried super slack (59HA IIRC) and come back from there.
The Grim Donut is going to be too slack and too low. I also reckon the SA is going to be too steep.
PS apologies in advance for the off topic comments.
Seeing a super slack hardtail online is one thing, riding one is another. Hardtails are 90% ride everything right? The missing 10% will be better achieved on a bike with suspension front & rear and can also be bought cheap
Really don't see the need for 'one trick ponies' in this day and age, latest generation hardtails are more than able to ride most things if you got the skills
As ever though, ride whatever you like, f*ck online opinions
I find wheel size has a bearing on the feel of the head angle. To me Bigger wheels ride like they are on a slacker bike (more flop etc) from my experience.