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Posted: Nov 15, 2019 at 18:50 Quote
I didnt get a chance to built but pulled out if box to find this and a rear wheel that barely moves? Forks were sitting in a nice plastic holder, but fir some reason the rear wheel was sitting on the seat??? and has a nice big tire mark. Anyway I'll have to dig in and see what's up with the wheel either later tonight, or tommorow anfter I go get a hanger.

When I saw that tangle of chain and derailleur I thought he had just removed it and didn't even see the problem till I had all the plastic ties clipped off.

It's too bad this whole deal turned south cause it would have been nice to have gotten some new wheels ordered already... Bikes friggen heavy! Smile Course my steel Honzo's no feather weight...

Edit/ had to at least check the rear wheel tonight, released the caliper and it spins fine. So not sure if it was out of adjustment or the brown shirts and shorts were playing kick the cardboard...?

Edit/ only Transition shop in town doesn't have the "UNIVERSAL HANGER" and the mechanic I talked to hadn't heard of it. They have maybe 8-12 full suspension Transitions for rent and don't have hangers in stock? (cause I'd assume that's a part that breaks often on rentals??) Dude takes a Smuggler to the back because he says he's gonna pull it so he knows what to look for. So I picked out some new 2.5WT's because I'm thinking if he's pulling it off the rental bike than likely he'll sell me that one. NOPE.

Posted: Nov 16, 2019 at 14:43 Quote
That's shipping damage my guy, time to deal with the post.

Posted: Nov 16, 2019 at 17:33 Quote
Not necessarily. Was there damage to the outside of the box? If yes, then maybe.

What type of packing material was used? How much was used between the bike and inside of the box? Could the bike move? Was it secured down or was there sufficient materials to prevent movement of the bike? A shipper will look at these and many other things to determine what happened.

Posted: Nov 16, 2019 at 19:10 Quote
My take on this is dude is gunna cry or lie about anything to make the other guy look like a scammer

Posted: Nov 16, 2019 at 19:33 Quote
Im the seller, glad someone sees this guy needs to create as much controversy as possible to feel important or something. This bike was shipped in a transition box which is stout compared to others , every square inch of the bike was covered in foam and zip tied you can see them lying in floor in his pic. the bike was shifted into the smallest gear which tucks the derailer in pretty tight on eagle, without a doubt it can get bent in shipping but a derailer is very malleable on purpose how could it get ripped of in shipping without the side of the box getting ripped apart and there would be damage to the bike? And release the caliper? did you bleed it, pull it off the bike? Id bet a large amount this guy ripped the derailer off himself. I would love to talk to this guy face to face.

Posted: Nov 16, 2019 at 20:13 Quote
Bikes ship with the derailleur removed from the hanger for good reason

Posted: Nov 16, 2019 at 20:43 Quote
When you agree to buy something second hand sight unseen you are taking a risk. It is your duty as a buyer to mitigate this risk and ensure that the product you are buying is what you are expecting, you can ask for additional photo's or inspection at a local shop among other things. Once you exchange funds with somebody you've entered an agreement with them, this agreement is that they will provide you with the item in exchange for your cash. A second hand item has no guarantee of condition, or warranty associated with it and is always sold in "as-is" condition unless otherwise stated and agreed upon by both parties.

You are dealing with an individual and not a business as such things taking a day or two longer is not uncommon because their life does not revolve around the sale they made with you. The seller did provide you with the product he promised within a timely fashion. The condition in which you recieved it is not uncommon for a bike thats been shipped across the country. R/D hangers often break in shipping, the binding rear calliper is also a good indication that it took a pretty good jolt. You should really stop dragging the dude through the mud he held up his end of the deal and doesn't need to be labeled as a shit person because you failed t do your due diligence.

Posted: Nov 16, 2019 at 21:32 Quote
I've had a hanger snap shipping a bike without any box damage, it happens. Just get a hanger off ebay and call it a day.

Posted: Nov 17, 2019 at 9:44 Quote
VNIMAL wrote:
I've had a hanger snap shipping a bike without any box damage, it happens. Just get a hanger off ebay and call it a day.
same same.
Same story with a frame i bough. Courier damaged the hanger. Box was almost perfect, but somehow the hanger was hit hard. Got a brand new one for 15 £ off ebay.

Posted: Nov 17, 2019 at 11:50 Quote
https://www.pinkbike.com/u/Abep2/

Paid for a fork from him about 10 days ago, was txt back and forth consistently right till I paid. Now won't reply.

Posted: Nov 17, 2019 at 14:57 Quote
Try calling him from a different number and ask what's going on. As long as you paid with PayPal goods and services - you'll be covered.

Posted: Nov 21, 2019 at 13:16 Quote
brad3154 wrote:
Im the seller, glad someone sees this guy needs to create as much controversy as possible to feel important or something. This bike was shipped in a transition box which is stout compared to others , every square inch of the bike was covered in foam and zip tied you can see them lying in floor in his pic. the bike was shifted into the smallest gear which tucks the derailer in pretty tight on eagle, without a doubt it can get bent in shipping but a derailer is very malleable on purpose how could it get ripped of in shipping without the side of the box getting ripped apart and there would be damage to the bike? And release the caliper? did you bleed it, pull it off the bike? Id bet a large amount this guy ripped the derailer off himself. I would love to talk to this guy face to face.


Seem to remember you texting your age and something about how your too old to play games? But now your cyberstalking my image uploads for PayPal and making up shit to comment. That's OK, I've got nothing to hide. And that "face to face" thing comes off like an implied physical threat? But on a keyboard a couple timezones away... impressive.

"release the caliper", as in the two bolts that align it with the rotor and was stopping it from spinning. Like it was also smacked and didn't have any padding??

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Finally got the replacement hanger yesterday, got some of those new OneUP carbon bars to try out, new stem, replaced that seat with the tire mark on it! Thought I'd get out for a quick nite ride after swapping the hanger... NOT. The thru axle doesn't come out, it "un" threads from the other side but then won't pull through, just spins? Then you can see the cassette slides back and forth and on teh back side how it separates from the shell when I push on it. The hub looks like it's falling apart in the rear drop out? But I don't understand why the axle doesn't pull through to get the wheel off, would that mean it's bent?? This whole thing is just so friggin frustrating, I just stopped messing with it after showing it in the video to send to Payal. I was gonna get the bike built up and then drop it off at the shop to get it looked at over the weekend, linkage checked, make sure everything was good, have the brakes looked at cause the levers pull to the bars, etc. But I'm not sure I want to do anything else with it at this point.


brad3154 wrote:
without a doubt it can get bent in shipping but a derailer is very malleable on purpose how could it get ripped of in shipping without the side of the box getting ripped apart and there would be damage to the bike?.

That derailleur hanger on that bike is NOT "malleable". It's a big ol solid chunk of metal that would seem to require a pretty big impact to break. Granted it's meant to break, and once the derailleur is on there it would act like a lever. You do raise a good point though, how did it break inside the box without the box showing significant damage?

There is some minor un taped damage to the cardboard on one side that could have happened after you taped the box? But it's closer to BB/cranks than back where the derailleur was. the other side has some damage that's taped up, but it's a used box and a little beat up anyway, and nothing about the box condition made me think there would be damage inside the box? I agree that you padded the front triangle and the front of the rear stays well with foam and zip ties, but there was no padding on the back end, nothing on the rear derailleur and dropouts and no padding around the wheels with just a piece of cardboard between them and LOTS OF AIRSPACE in the box.

So "if" it's shipping damage I'm sure they will still be interested that you didn't remove or protect the derailleur and didn't do something to keep the bike from flying around inside the box. But first I'll contact PayPal again and see what they want to do.







PayPal wants a link to the original Ad, which you seem to have conveniently deleted...? (nothing shady there, yea your totally trustworthy and I'm just cryin and lyin) Fortunately I screen shot it all on that Saturday when you were holding both the bike and my money and demanding more money to ship so I'm continuing to upload to a PB folder so I can just send them the link with all the info in one spot... At this point I'm just gonna let the bike sit till they decide what to do...

Posted: Nov 21, 2019 at 15:24 Quote
As far as trying to sell for more money the pictures you posted clearly shows it all (I still had a sentinel for sale) carbon medium. As far as taking bike listing down isn't that what people does when a bike sells genius.

Posted: Nov 21, 2019 at 15:35 Quote
As far as cyberstalking i respond to what pertains to me in your book you've wrote over a derailleur hanger $10. And i would be floored if paypal starts insuring everything pertaining to a purchased product (happy with product,shipping damage) its funny you even admit to still filing paypal claims over this.

Posted: Nov 21, 2019 at 15:39 Quote
brad3154 wrote:
As far as trying to sell for more money the pictures you posted clearly shows it all (I still had a sentinel for sale) carbon medium. As far as taking bike listing down isn't that what people does when a bike sells genius.

You mark it as "sold" you've done it before on your account.


 
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