New enduro bike with non DH geometry

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New enduro bike with non DH geometry
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flag Dylan098
Posted: Oct 30, 2014 at 16:33 Quote
I'd look at a SC Bronson, it pedals great everywhere and is a very neutral bike with 67 degree HA, medium length CS, and parts specs are pretty good(not cheap sometimes, but good)
flag kwtoxman
Posted: Oct 30, 2014 at 18:36 Quote
I would really look at this bike. A great combo of XC/AM/enduro with a spec you are looking for. Price should be flexible from msrp.

2015 Thunderbolt 790 MSL BC Edition



2nd one down in the link.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-look-rocky-mountains-carbon-thunderbolt-msl.html

More here,
http://www.bikes.com/en/bikes/thunderbolt-bc-edition/2015
http://nsmb.com/2015-rocky-mountain-thunderbolt/
flag Dylan098
Posted: Oct 30, 2014 at 20:54 Quote
kwtoxman wrote:
I would really look at this bike. A great combo of XC/AM/enduro with a spec you are looking for. Price should be flexible from msrp.

2015 Thunderbolt 790 MSL BC Edition



2nd one down in the link.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-look-rocky-mountains-carbon-thunderbolt-msl.html

More here,
http://www.bikes.com/en/bikes/thunderbolt-bc-edition/2015
http://nsmb.com/2015-rocky-mountain-thunderbolt/
I think that'd be a great idea if he can get one over there, I'm not sure what they have for distributors
flag hambee-enchurbro
Posted: Oct 31, 2014 at 17:49 Quote
Specialized stumpjumper evo
flag billyblanks30
Posted: Oct 31, 2014 at 18:14 Quote
I think the Bronson is the way to go if you can afford it, although its around the same price as an Enduro http://www.freshmtbreviews.com/santa-cruz-bronson-c-review/
flag kwtoxman
Posted: Oct 31, 2014 at 19:47 Quote
Dylan098 wrote:
kwtoxman wrote:
I would really look at this bike. A great combo of XC/AM/enduro with a spec you are looking for. Price should be flexible from msrp.

2015 Thunderbolt 790 MSL BC Edition



2nd one down in the link.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-look-rocky-mountains-carbon-thunderbolt-msl.html

More here,
http://www.bikes.com/en/bikes/thunderbolt-bc-edition/2015
http://nsmb.com/2015-rocky-mountain-thunderbolt/
I think that'd be a great idea if he can get one over there, I'm not sure what they have for distributors

Thx for the acknowledgement. I don't own a Rocky Mountain either so my recommendation comes without bias, which you see a lot of on forums. It is only based on the OPs list.

Good news is Rocky Mountain has lots of dealers. Including Prague Smile

http://www.bikes.com/en/dealers

Just put in Czech Republic.
flag Becis
Posted: Nov 1, 2014 at 2:03 Quote
What about Banshee rune, and home build? Anybody knows how it pedals?
flag hambee-enchurbro
Posted: Nov 1, 2014 at 2:35 Quote
Becis wrote:
What about Banshee rune, and home build? Anybody knows how it pedals?

Ks link is meant to pedal quite well IIRC. I would look at the spitfire for the riding described tbh. Although it is a touch longer than the rune it should pedal a bit better while maintaining the capability for DH and enduro riding/racing
flag burt-reynolds
Posted: Nov 1, 2014 at 6:03 Quote
Becis wrote:
What about Banshee rune, and home build? Anybody knows how it pedals?

Rails the DH but doesn't pedal well in comparison to others in it's class. The Santa Cruz Bronson is the one. Aside from the new Yeti's, the Bronson is likely the best climbing bike that will also really handle the DH well. Not to mention Santa Cruz's warranty department. They really stand behind their product.
flag m1na
Posted: Nov 1, 2014 at 6:31 Quote
dualsuspensiondave wrote:
Becis wrote:
What about Banshee rune, and home build? Anybody knows how it pedals?

Rails the DH but doesn't pedal well in comparison to others in it's class. The Santa Cruz Bronson is the one. Aside from the new Yeti's, the Bronson is likely the best climbing bike that will also really handle the DH well. Not to mention Santa Cruz's warranty department. They really stand behind their product.

Well only problem here is that SC bikes are crazy overpriced here in Europe\Czech.
price list :-/ http://www.santacruz.cz/media/Cenik%20Santa%20Cruz%202014%20MOC.pdf
You can get much better deals on banshee, knolly, even mojo hdr cost around 2000 eur, which is good.
flag Becis
Posted: Nov 1, 2014 at 13:33 Quote
Santa Cruz Bronson will be the best, but Icant buy them becose it is so expensive.

Is this info true?

Canyon nerve AL (my bike):
http://linkagedesign.blogspot.cz/2011/10/canyon-nerve-am-2012.html
The test says it pedal really bad, and mabye it is true becose when i try another bike it will ride much better

Banshee rune:
http://linkagedesign.blogspot.cz/2012/08/banshee-rune-v2-2013.html
It says it has super effinenci in pedaling.

SC Bronson:
http://linkagedesign.blogspot.cz/2013/04/santa-cruz-bronson-2013.html
It says it has same effienci as Rune

When I will buy Spitfire i definitely put on 160mm fork on front. So Will be 2cm of rear suspension so big difference? I really dont know to choose Spitfire or Rune.

When i look at geometry Spitfire and Rune, rune seems more agility for me and I want agile bike.

Rune Spitfire
HA 66° 67° (i think with 160mm fork it will be 66°)
Seat tube 584mm 590mm
Chainstay 432mm 437mm
Reach 417mm 427mm
Wheelbase 1166mm 1165mm

So what do you think about agility Rune and Spitfire?
flag Giladgu
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Posted: Nov 1, 2014 at 16:01 Quote
Becis wrote:
Santa Cruz Bronson will be the best, but Icant buy them becose it is so expensive.

Is this info true?

Canyon nerve AL (my bike):
http://linkagedesign.blogspot.cz/2011/10/canyon-nerve-am-2012.html
The test says it pedal really bad, and mabye it is true becose when i try another bike it will ride much better

Banshee rune:
http://linkagedesign.blogspot.cz/2012/08/banshee-rune-v2-2013.html
It says it has super effinenci in pedaling.

SC Bronson:
http://linkagedesign.blogspot.cz/2013/04/santa-cruz-bronson-2013.html
It says it has same effienci as Rune

When I will buy Spitfire i definitely put on 160mm fork on front. So Will be 2cm of rear suspension so big difference? I really dont know to choose Spitfire or Rune.

When i look at geometry Spitfire and Rune, rune seems more agility for me and I want agile bike.

Rune Spitfire
HA 66° 67° (i think with 160mm fork it will be 66°)
Seat tube 584mm 590mm
Chainstay 432mm 437mm
Reach 417mm 427mm
Wheelbase 1166mm 1165mm

So what do you think about agility Rune and Spitfire?
i would get the 650b spitfire and leave the fork at 140. i got a chance to ride one over the summer and it is probably my favorite bike of all time, once u get the suspension set up right it feels more capable than alot of 150mm bikes. i would get it and spend money on other stuff instead of a fork
flag Becis
Posted: Nov 2, 2014 at 2:01 Quote
Now I have 120/120mm XC/Trailbike, thats the reason why I dont want 140/140 bike. I think it will be almost the same as bike which I have now.
flag shredjekyll
Posted: Nov 2, 2014 at 19:47 Quote
Becis wrote:
Bad pedal effienci Frown i know it is really hard with me Big Grin .

Or do you have experience how big is difference 0,5° at head angle and 10mm at wheelbase? Becose that is the difference between Specialized Enduro which i try and YT Capra which i like becose im scared from her "super stability"

That just shows you have no idea what the jekyll rides like. I don't own a newer one, I own a 2002 one, but my brother has an aluminum 2013 MX with the DYAD and being able to swap from 150 to 90 as often as you want is nuts.. once you get the suspension set up those bikes climb like no tomorrow and are easily some of the most efficient enduro pedalers you can buy. Plenty of other bikes mentioned are great to but to rule the jekyll out because you think it doesn't pedal well is absurd.
flag NovemberBravo
Posted: Nov 3, 2014 at 23:11 Quote
hambee-enchurbro wrote:
Specialized stumpjumper evo

This may seem off board but I would recommend this too.

I own on so I am a little bias however it is a great bike. It pedals amazingly, is light and can still take the downhills. On the evo model you could put on a 160 pike for more travel in the front.

I have a DH background and spend a fair bit of time riding whistler and the stumpy has never disappointed on the downs. I have even taken it down full on DH trails and been impressed with it.

 


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