Best 'whip' Jump?

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Best 'whip' Jump?
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flag shamgreen
Posted: Apr 24, 2015 at 14:58 Quote
I am planning on spending a large part of my summer working on my whip. Since bike parks are not exactly local in my area, I am planning on making a big 'whip' jump in my backyard.

What is the best type of jump to make for learning how to whip (on an all mountain/downhill bike, NOT a DJ) ? I don't have many restrictions as far as space, or speed.

If possible be as specific as you can (angle of lip, length, angle of landing, width.. ect.)
flag bigburd
Posted: Apr 25, 2015 at 2:08 Quote
Hips are great for whips as your are forced to whip just to not miss the landing , plus you don't need to bring the back end inline as much.

Next time you ride a jump you like have a good look at it then create your own.
flag cmc4130
Posted: Apr 30, 2015 at 11:07 Quote
shamgreen wrote:
I am planning on spending a large part of my summer working on my whip. Since bike parks are not exactly local in my area, I am planning on making a big 'whip' jump in my backyard.

What is the best type of jump to make for learning how to whip (on an all mountain/downhill bike, NOT a DJ) ? I don't have many restrictions as far as space, or speed.

If possible be as specific as you can (angle of lip, length, angle of landing, width.. ect.)


I feel like step-ups are probably the best jump for learning almost any trick. Because you don't have as far to "fall from the apex of your air, you can be less worried about your landing.
http://plussizebmx.squarespace.com/blog/2012/5/31/new-step-up-at-woodward-west.html


If you haven't seen it, this is worth watching. It starts out slow, but it's good.

Chase Hawk: How to Moto Whip
https://vimeo.com/34120528
flag shamgreen
Posted: May 1, 2015 at 15:06 Quote
A step-up would be great.... but getting my hands on all that dirt will either be really expensive or a ton of digging. Im probably going to go with a hip.
flag buildstuf
Posted: May 3, 2015 at 2:27 Quote
Something with a steady takeoff and landing is ideal. Don't build a hip if you want your whip to be really good because you'll never learn how to bring it back in which is vital when whipping.
A long take off will give you time to prepare yourself to whip. And make sure the gap is easy for you to clear normally.
And a wide landing if you mess up.
flag shamgreen
Posted: May 3, 2015 at 18:02 Quote
Hi-im-gary wrote:
Something with a steady takeoff and landing is ideal. Don't build a hip if you want your whip to be really good because you'll never learn how to bring it back in which is vital when whipping.
A long take off will give you time to prepare yourself to whip. And make sure the gap is easy for you to clear normally.
And a wide landing if you mess up.

Any pictures/more specific specs? Sounds like a good idea
flag cmc4130
Posted: May 3, 2015 at 18:15 Quote
Hi-im-gary wrote:
. . . .. Don't build a hip if you want your whip to be really good because you'll never learn how to bring it back in which is vital when whipping. . . . . .

I agree with that. The challenge of whips is having your lower body being sideways, but your shoulders still straight ahead, so that you can straighten out.

Hip jumps are better for learning flat tabletops, aka flatties... including one-footed flatties....

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flag shamgreen
Posted: May 3, 2015 at 19:20 Quote
cmc4130 wrote:
Hi-im-gary wrote:
. . . .. Don't build a hip if you want your whip to be really good because you'll never learn how to bring it back in which is vital when whipping. . . . . .

I agree with that. The challenge of whips is having your lower body being sideways, but your shoulders still straight ahead, so that you can straighten out.

Hip jumps are better for learning flat tabletops, aka flatties... including one-footed flatties....

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But for a moto whip i should make a bike-park style table top? (flatties are sick tricks, but nothing compares to a moto whip) Smile
flag buildstuf
Posted: May 23, 2015 at 7:14 Quote
Id make a step up, it means if you go wrong you dont slam into the ground as hard as if you fell off on a step down or table top.
flag shamgreen
Posted: Jun 5, 2015 at 17:17 Quote
Due to lack of an excavator... im not going to make a step up because it will take sooo much dirt. Instead im making a big tabletop, and ill make it very wide
flag ibishreddin
Posted: Jun 5, 2015 at 17:56 Quote
shamgreen wrote:
Due to lack of an excavator... im not going to make a step up because it will take sooo much dirt. Instead im making a big tabletop, and ill make it very wide

Good thinking. Oh and dont make it too long and fast, the speed will want to straighten you out. Give it some air. Ill take pic of a jump at my local place that is perfect for whiping for you.
flag bigburd
Posted: Jun 6, 2015 at 0:09 Quote
shamgreen wrote:
Due to lack of an excavator... im not going to make a step up because it will take sooo much dirt. Instead im making a big tabletop, and ill make it very wide

Tables take up way to much dirt dude , most tables could make at least 2 sets of boubles
flag buildstuf
Posted: Jun 6, 2015 at 0:39 Quote
And make sure the jump spits you out forwards rather than upwards.
flag shamgreen
Posted: Jun 6, 2015 at 11:51 Quote
bigburd wrote:
shamgreen wrote:
Due to lack of an excavator... im not going to make a step up because it will take sooo much dirt. Instead im making a big tabletop, and ill make it very wide

Tables take up way to much dirt dude , most tables could make at least 2 sets of boubles

I know they take a lot of dirt... lol im only half done and have been working for weeks. But i dont think i can get comfortable trying new stuff on a gap. It'l take a lot of time, but i hope/think it will be worth it.
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