SCOUT's fall in!

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SCOUT's fall in!
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Posted: Nov 30, 2021 at 15:00 Quote
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kingch24 wrote:
Bm1117 wrote:


They recommended a 32mm stem and 30mm or more rise bars. His reasoning for going large was it would be easier to shorten the cockpit on a large and that handling wise the large would still be very playful.

Interesting. I would think the wheelbase difference would make the bike less playful even with a shortened stem. I guess it’s only about an inch difference so splitting hairs really. Regardless you get a ripper either way so good problem to have!

Yeah he didn’t seem to think the handling characteristics and playfulness would be very discernible between the two sizes. If I could get the reach to work on the Large then maybe that’s the way to go. Going to talk with my bike shop some more.

Posted: Dec 7, 2021 at 17:16 Quote
JDub713 wrote:

Finally! Got mine together! Super happy with the end result. Swapped the Saint SPD pedals out for Chromag flats, suits me better.

That's a good looking bike! I have a Raspberry frame at my shop and they're working on getting parts together for building it up. Can't wait to shred it! How is the Float X treating you? I would have liked an X2 or Super Deluxe, but that's what the fame comes with and will upgrade later if I feel I need to.

Posted: Dec 8, 2021 at 9:06 Quote
kingch24 wrote:


That's a good looking bike! I have a Raspberry frame at my shop and they're working on getting parts together for building it up. Can't wait to shred it! How is the Float X treating you? I would have liked an X2 or Super Deluxe, but that's what the fame comes with and will upgrade later if I feel I need to.

Float X is great! If this was my only bike I would get an X2 as an option for bigger features or shuttle/lift runs but I'm fortunate to have two rigs and my SB150 will handle that stuff. The Float X is exactly what I wanted for a trail bike. 140 rear 150 front is a great balance and I've gotten great traction on technical climbs + solid bottom out resistance.

Posted: Dec 8, 2021 at 9:09 Quote
JDub713 wrote:
kingch24 wrote:


That's a good looking bike! I have a Raspberry frame at my shop and they're working on getting parts together for building it up. Can't wait to shred it! How is the Float X treating you? I would have liked an X2 or Super Deluxe, but that's what the fame comes with and will upgrade later if I feel I need to.

Float X is great! If this was my only bike I would get an X2 as an option for bigger features or shuttle/lift runs but I'm fortunate to have two rigs and my SB150 will handle that stuff. The Float X is exactly what I wanted for a trail bike. 140 rear 150 front is a great balance and I've gotten great traction on technical climbs + solid bottom out resistance.

That's my goal for the scout too. Mostly for mellow trail rides, flow trails, jump lines. I have a DH and 160 travel 29er for big stuff. Plan is to go to a two bike quiver of Scout and Spire. Good to hear you're happy with the Float X.

Posted: Dec 12, 2021 at 9:33 Quote
Hello, I'm thinking to get the new alloy Scout. Ich have now a Knolly Warden 2019 but i'd like to have a more playful bike. What do you mean, could the new Scout be more playful than a Warden?
Thanks and sorry for my english.

Posted: Dec 12, 2021 at 13:21 Quote
Koroviev wrote:
Scout be more playful than a Warden?

Answer coming soon. I expect it to be in 140 because our Endorphin is more playful than the Warden. Eventually we'll set up the Scout 150/160. I know what I like about the Warden and it's the combination of playful and fast rough performance. I've been comparing various numbers on the two bikes(and the new Warden) and there are some similarities and significant differences. All I can really say so far that may or may not have anything to do with the playfulness is the xs Scout feels way smaller in the cockpit than the small warden although on paper it is "bigger". Also when lifting the bikes, Scout feels heavier in the back which makes sense when you compare the chainstays.

More to come but it will be an 11 year olds take, I don't expect him to let me ride his bike.Rolleyes

Posted: Dec 12, 2021 at 21:36 Quote
dirtpedaler wrote:
Koroviev wrote:
Scout be more playful than a Warden?

Answer coming soon. I expect it to be in 140 because our Endorphin is more playful than the Warden. Eventually we'll set up the Scout 150/160. I know what I like about the Warden and it's the combination of playful and fast rough performance. I've been comparing various numbers on the two bikes(and the new Warden) and there are some similarities and significant differences. All I can really say so far that may or may not have anything to do with the playfulness is the xs Scout feels way smaller in the cockpit than the small warden although on paper it is "bigger". Also when lifting the bikes, Scout feels heavier in the back which makes sense when you compare the chainstays.

More to come but it will be an 11 year olds take, I don't expect him to let me ride his bike.Rolleyes

Thanks a lot for your answer:-)
Yes, i think the Warden is very good on rough and also playful enough but in my opinion too little poppy when pushing on jump or corner. I compare my Warden in M to a Scout in S, i'm 170 cm tall. The quetion is whether the change would be worthwhile or not.

Posted: Dec 13, 2021 at 6:07 Quote
Hi, has anyone riden the V1 and V3 Scout?
I have the scout V1 and thinking about upgrading.I like to have a bit more travel and a longer dropper post.
but I also like the playfulness of the V1. The V3 is so much longer, and I want to know if it is still a playful bike.

Posted: Dec 13, 2021 at 15:29 Quote
cptkabelbinder wrote:
Hi, has anyone riden the V1 and V3 Scout?
I have the scout V1 and thinking about upgrading.I like to have a bit more travel and a longer dropper post.
but I also like the playfulness of the V1. The V3 is so much longer, and I want to know if it is still a playful bike.

I have the new scout in carbon and even with a coil shock it’s a blast to ride. Solid bike. I’d say the bike being long makes it a bit more predictable. Handles better and no big surprises hitting descent sized jumps. I love it. I have saved money and had thought about switching over to a 29r. But I don’t know if I can give this thing up.

Posted: Dec 14, 2021 at 1:07 Quote
I'm 170 cm (5' 6'') tall. Wich frame size do you suggest, S or M? I'm incline to get S because i like small bikes.

Posted: Dec 14, 2021 at 2:35 Quote
Koroviev wrote:
I'm 170 cm (5' 6'') tall. Wich frame size do you suggest, S or M? I'm incline to get S because i like small bikes.
Hi Koroviev. I'm 167cm & ride a small however I often wish I'd gone for a medium. I ended up fitting a 50mm stem & running my saddle far back on it's rails to feel comfortable. I also have room available to run a 180mm OneUp dropper if I wanted to the frame is that small.

Posted: Dec 14, 2021 at 3:11 Quote
Psythepie wrote:
Koroviev wrote:
I'm 170 cm (5' 6'') tall. Wich frame size do you suggest, S or M? I'm incline to get S because i like small bikes.
Hi Koroviev. I'm 167cm & ride a small however I often wish I'd gone for a medium. I ended up fitting a 50mm stem & running my saddle far back on it's rails to feel comfortable. I also have room available to run a 180mm OneUp dropper if I wanted to the frame is that small.

Hi Psythepie, thanks for your answer. I'd like to have a playful bike but i have some about TTL, it seems to be very short. My current bike has a TTL of 604 mm, which is about 40 mm longer than the small Scout.

Posted: Dec 14, 2021 at 7:10 Quote
Koroviev wrote:
I'm 170 cm (5' 6'') tall. Wich frame size do you suggest, S or M? I'm incline to get S because i like small bikes.

Medium for sure. I’m 5’8” and have demoed medium and large. The bikes ride smaller than their numbers suggest. Medium has 12mm longer reach than my current bike yet feels smaller.

Posted: Dec 14, 2021 at 9:52 Quote
kingch24 wrote:
Koroviev wrote:
I'm 170 cm (5' 6'') tall. Wich frame size do you suggest, S or M? I'm incline to get S because i like small bikes.

Medium for sure. I’m 5’8” and have demoed medium and large. The bikes ride smaller than their numbers suggest. Medium has 12mm longer reach than my current bike yet feels smaller.

I agree that it seems smaller than the numbers suggest. I have a 2021 NP Mega and a 2019 5010 which the scout replaced. My Mega and Scout are both longer on the numbers but feel smaller and shorter in the seated position.

Posted: Dec 14, 2021 at 10:28 Quote
831SCB wrote:
kingch24 wrote:
Koroviev wrote:
I'm 170 cm (5' 6'') tall. Wich frame size do you suggest, S or M? I'm incline to get S because i like small bikes.

Medium for sure. I’m 5’8” and have demoed medium and large. The bikes ride smaller than their numbers suggest. Medium has 12mm longer reach than my current bike yet feels smaller.

I agree that it seems smaller than the numbers suggest. I have a 2021 NP Mega and a 2019 5010 which the scout replaced. My Mega and Scout are both longer on the numbers but feel smaller and shorter in the seated position.

Thank you very much @831SCB and @kingch -)
Let's compare my past and cuurent bikes. I had a 2019 Propain Tyee size S, it was also very small but i felt good on it with TTL 568mm, Reach 415mm, Stack 590mm. It felt smaller than my current Knolly Warden M with TTL 604mm, Reach 435, Stack 587mm. The Propain seems to be more similar ti the Scout, the Knolly feels more stable than the Propain. I'd like to have e more playful bike than my Knolly, because of this change. Very difficult without the opportunity to ride them.


 
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