Any tall riders thinking about a 24" BMX XXXL Cruiser

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Any tall riders thinking about a 24" BMX XXXL Cruiser
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flag partiallysane
Posted: Sep 26, 2015 at 13:17 Quote
At 6' 2" I find that most BMX bikes are simply too small for my comfort.

I have found that a standard BMX with 20" wheels at the standard "pro" size designation (i.e. ~20.5" top tube) is very small, even with some nice big bars with 9" rise.

A few years ago I found a used 24" Redline Flight Pro cruiser. It has a ~21.5" TT and ~22.5 Rider area and I put the same 9" bars on. I have been riding it for a few years now and it certainly fits a lot better than the 20" bike but I still feel the size is not optimal. I know I could get a set of 10" bars and or a stem that would set the bars forward a bit more but I would really like to get myself a bike that is truely proportional to my size. I just need that little bit of extra room that would let me stretch out while keeping my body appropriately balanced between the bars and pedals.

I've been looking at other manufactures and it seems that there are no complete bikes available in the largest of the commonly available sizes. There are a few manufactures that make a XXXL 20" but almost none of the manufactures offer a 24" BMX cruiser with a XXXL frame (at least none that I've been able to find).

There are few companies like YESSBMX and PURE that do offer a frame only XXL cruiser but the problem is that these "XXL" frames are only a tiny fraction of an inch larger than the bike I already have. The YESS BMX XXL cruiser has a 22.25" TT and ~23" rider area.

I have come to the conclusion that the best option for me would be to have a custom frame built with approximately 23" top tube and nearly 24" rider area. The cost of getting a custom frame (i.e. one of one XXXL cruiser) is going to be about 2-3 times the regular price of a off the shelf XL or XXL cruiser frame.

YESS BMX has indicated to me that if there are 5-10 people that are looking for a XXXL cruiser, they might be willing to put together a small production run that could keep the costs closer to the "regular" price. I've read several other threads from other riders with similar sentiments about the desire for a larger BMX cruiser option and I would expect that if such a bike was available at regular prices there might be sufficient interest to make a production run feasible.

If there are any of you out there who might be interested please let me know.

I also look forward to any comments on the topic.

sincerely,
Josh
flag Drawn
Posted: Sep 30, 2015 at 5:10 Quote
Have you considered looking at a custom frame from S&M? they don't seem massively priced for a custom frame and I know of a few who have gone down that route for slightly larger frames before.
basically you can pick the geo to suit you and after a quick look you can certainly pick the 23inch top tube length which suits your needs.

just an option for you to look at.
flag cmc4130
Posted: Sep 30, 2015 at 10:09 Quote
partiallysane wrote:
At 6' 2" I find that most BMX bikes are simply too small for my comfort.

I have found that a standard BMX with 20" wheels at the standard "pro" size designation (i.e. ~20.5" top tube) is very small, even with some nice big bars with 9" rise.

A few years ago I found a used 24" Redline Flight Pro cruiser. It has a ~21.5" TT and ~22.5 Rider area and I put the same 9" bars on. I have been riding it for a few years now and it certainly fits a lot better than the 20" bike but I still feel the size is not optimal. I know I could get a set of 10" bars and or a stem that would set the bars forward a bit more but I would really like to get myself a bike that is truely proportional to my size. I just need that little bit of extra room that would let me stretch out while keeping my body appropriately balanced between the bars and pedals.

I've been looking at other manufactures and it seems that there are no complete bikes available in the largest of the commonly available sizes. There are a few manufactures that make a XXXL 20" but almost none of the manufactures offer a 24" BMX cruiser with a XXXL frame (at least none that I've been able to find).

There are few companies like YESSBMX and PURE that do offer a frame only XXL cruiser but the problem is that these "XXL" frames are only a tiny fraction of an inch larger than the bike I already have. The YESS BMX XXL cruiser has a 22.25" TT and ~23" rider area.

I have come to the conclusion that the best option for me would be to have a custom frame built with approximately 23" top tube and nearly 24" rider area. The cost of getting a custom frame (i.e. one of one XXXL cruiser) is going to be about 2-3 times the regular price of a off the shelf XL or XXL cruiser frame.

YESS BMX has indicated to me that if there are 5-10 people that are looking for a XXXL cruiser, they might be willing to put together a small production run that could keep the costs closer to the "regular" price. I've read several other threads from other riders with similar sentiments about the desire for a larger BMX cruiser option and I would expect that if such a bike was available at regular prices there might be sufficient interest to make a production run feasible.

If there are any of you out there who might be interested please let me know.

I also look forward to any comments on the topic.

sincerely,
Josh


Are you wanting a race cruiser, or more of a street/park/trails one?

Check out this thread.

Learn me on NS 24" bikes
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=387569

Also check out http://cruiserrevolution.com/

This is me on a Liquid Feedback 24". I'm 6'1". It has a 22.25" top tube. I honestly don't think I would want it any longer than that. Maybe 23" top tube max.
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flag partiallysane
Posted: Sep 30, 2015 at 16:34 Quote
cmc4130 wrote:

Are you wanting a race cruiser, or more of a street/park/trails one?


I'll be use it for racing only.
flag partiallysane
Posted: Sep 30, 2015 at 19:53 Quote
Drawn wrote:
Have you considered looking at a custom frame from S&M?

Yes the S&M option looks pretty good...and for street/park use cro-mo would definately be the way to go. But I was really hoping that I might find some other tall bikers that would be interested in a lighter aluminum option like YESS (also better looking IMO).

If 5-10 people that are interested then the YESS XXXL race/cruiser could be built for very reasonable price.
flag cmc4130
Posted: Sep 30, 2015 at 20:24 Quote
partiallysane wrote:

I have come to the conclusion that the best option for me would be to have a custom frame built with approximately 23" top tube and nearly 24" rider area. The cost of getting a custom frame (i.e. one of one XXXL cruiser) is going to be about 2-3 times the regular price of a off the shelf XL or XXL cruiser frame.

A buddy of mine got a 23" top tube custom from STANDARD. They're great, but pricey.

You might look into contacting Matt at STOUT Bikes outside of Houston Texas. He handmakes chromoly frames, and he's done a ton of customs. He's on pinkbike.
flag skier222
Posted: Oct 12, 2015 at 22:06 Quote
I ride a Sunday model c 22" tt with s&m hoder bars 8.6". At 6'1" its plenty of room. Actually would really like to try a 22" frame vs the 24" to gain a bit more maneuverability.
flag Aaronz25RS
Posted: Oct 15, 2015 at 7:07 Quote
I had similar problem... fixed it...

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flag grumpysteve
Posted: Nov 10, 2015 at 13:59 Quote
Get a speedwagon 24
flag DarrellW
Posted: Nov 10, 2015 at 14:15 Quote
Honestly, I don't know why you'd buy a BMX cruiser if you can buy a 24" MTB which will have the same cockpit and geometry. The advantage of the MTB (whatever that means) is that you'll have the option of suspension should you want it, whereas with the BMX frame, it'll not be an option.

https://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=110817&pagenum=1

The geometry on many of these isn't that far off their 26" bretheren, so you could run some 26" frames with 24" wheels if you wanted to.
flag grumpysteve
Posted: Nov 10, 2015 at 15:16 Quote
DarrellW wrote:
Honestly, I don't know why you'd buy a BMX cruiser if you can buy a 24" MTB which will have the same cockpit and geometry. The advantage of the MTB (whatever that means) is that you'll have the option of suspension should you want it, whereas with the BMX frame, it'll not be an option.

https://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=110817&pagenum=1

The geometry on many of these isn't that far off their 26" bretheren, so you could run some 26" frames with 24" wheels if you wanted to.

Because he wants it to race bmx on......
flag Aaronz25RS
Posted: Nov 11, 2015 at 5:36 Quote
I missed the race BMX part..
flag grumpysteve
Posted: Nov 11, 2015 at 7:30 Quote
The other option if you want a bit more maneuverability is 22" wheels. I've heard nothing but good things about them and have been tempted myself.
Although it's a bit of a grey area when it comes to racing. It technically still comes under the 20" category, but is frowned upon. And as they become more popular will probably be re classified. I guess it depends if you're just messing about at the local track, or doing it competitively.
Either way, a 24" race frame should still be plenty big enough. You're only 2 inches taller than me and I still ride a 21" frame 20" bmx and have no intention of going up in frame or wheel size (tried it, didn't like it)
flag ricar
Posted: Nov 13, 2015 at 17:46 Quote
DarrellW wrote:
Honestly, I don't know why you'd buy a BMX cruiser if you can buy a 24" MTB which will have the same cockpit and geometry. The advantage of the MTB (whatever that means) is that you'll have the option of suspension should you want it, whereas with the BMX frame, it'll not be an option.

https://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=110817&pagenum=1

The geometry on many of these isn't that far off their 26" bretheren, so you could run some 26" frames with 24" wheels if you wanted to.

Because a 24" bike with a sus corrected fork is a bike with a weaker fork and poorly designed geometry for that type of bike. With BMX bars the head tube will be several inches lower giving you much more room over the top tube, so the geometry may be the "same" but there will be more room on a cruiser.

I'm trying to think of a guys name,(I keep thinking Gary Young but it was not, he rode against Gary) he rode park though and is 6'1" if memory serves. Pro rider rode the Deuce Deuce without issue. There are plenty of cruisers you could ride without issue, even try to find an old Widowmaker, they were awesome but too long for my liking.
flag cmc4130
Posted: Nov 16, 2015 at 8:49 Quote
ricar wrote:
DarrellW wrote:
Honestly, I don't know why you'd buy a BMX cruiser if you can buy a 24" MTB which will have the same cockpit and geometry. The advantage of the MTB (whatever that means) is that you'll have the option of suspension should you want it, whereas with the BMX frame, it'll not be an option.

https://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=110817&pagenum=1

The geometry on many of these isn't that far off their 26" bretheren, so you could run some 26" frames with 24" wheels if you wanted to.

Because a 24" bike with a sus corrected fork is a bike with a weaker fork and poorly designed geometry for that type of bike. With BMX bars the head tube will be several inches lower giving you much more room over the top tube, so the geometry may be the "same" but there will be more room on a cruiser.

I'm trying to think of a guys name,(I keep thinking Gary Young but it was not, he rode against Gary) he rode park though and is 6'1" if memory serves. Pro rider rode the Deuce Deuce without issue. There are plenty of cruisers you could ride without issue, even try to find an old Widowmaker, they were awesome but too long for my liking.


Heh heh. Try to find an old Widowmaker? If he did, he could turn around and sell it as a collector's item!
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/?model=1608
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