Official Kelowna and Westbank Thread

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Posted: Apr 19, 2019 at 7:50 Quote
Just saw the Facebook pictures of Gillard trails post logging. It's tough to appreciate the extend of damage given the perspective of the pictures but the Petite picture looks grim, It's only a few pictures though. Looking forward to them finishing up there and then the reclaim/rebuild.

Posted: Apr 19, 2019 at 11:03 Quote
mennotele wrote:
Just saw the Facebook pictures of Gillard trails post logging. It's tough to appreciate the extend of damage given the perspective of the pictures but the Petite picture looks grim, It's only a few pictures though. Looking forward to them finishing up there and then the reclaim/rebuild.

Gillard's survived a fire, a windstorm, logging, trespass notices, mining and now more logging.

It'll be fine...

Anyone remember when casino/kerplop looked like this?


Posted: Apr 19, 2019 at 16:59 Quote
Got to ride fomo today I would say it's pretty damn good. I'm digging the raw cut in feel not like the hard packed trails around it Smile

Posted: Apr 19, 2019 at 18:29 Quote
k-towntrailryder wrote:
mennotele wrote:
Just saw the Facebook pictures of Gillard trails post logging. It's tough to appreciate the extend of damage given the perspective of the pictures but the Petite picture looks grim, It's only a few pictures though. Looking forward to them finishing up there and then the reclaim/rebuild.

Gillard's survived a fire, a windstorm, logging, trespass notices, mining and now more logging.

It'll be fine...

Anyone remember when casino/kerplop looked like this?


Sure do, I also recall the army of people we got out there clearing all that blowdown.

Posted: Apr 19, 2019 at 22:26 Quote
k-towntrailryder wrote:
A local forestry company who's been doing forestry layout for 20 years and started a trails division 5 years ago has 60 employees, 10 of whom are trails guys. Trails gross revenue nearly doubled forestry revenue last year.

Cabin Forestry is no Forestry company Madder

Posted: Apr 23, 2019 at 15:37 Quote
Crawford Trail Day

We need a large group of MTBco Members (membership required for insurance purposes) to come out and help us clear the main climbers. There's a lot of loose rock on the trails, so we're going to rake Lost Lake and Pink Hwy to make those climbs more enjoyable for everyone. And the sandy gravel mess where Horse Trail spilt its guts onto Pink Hwy will get some love too. But, we'll start by tidying up the entrance around the kiosk, as well as the trail that comes down into that area. This will be mostly light duty work, but lots-o-hiking involved. Please bring a rake if you've got one.

Make sure you bring appropriate clothing (layers), including footwear, hats and gloves, glasses, food and water, and as always, enthusiasm and smiles. Smile

The forecast is looking pretty good, so don't forget sunscreen.

If you are going to be there, for sure, please mark yourself as "Going" on our Facebook Event, so we know how many people to expect. Thanks!

Posted: Apr 24, 2019 at 20:36 Quote
Wild Horse Canyon Adventure Trail Weekends

May 4-5 and May 11-12

MTBco has been asked by BC Parks to participate in a multi-organization effort to clear Wild Horse Canyon Trail from the north parking lot at the end of Lake Shore in Kelowna to Naramata (25 kms).

BC Parks, MTBco, FOSS, PACA, P.A.C.E., Okanagan Outfitters, Back Country Horsemen BC (BCHBC) and others are involved.

This is a major project planned for the first two weekends in May. Volunteers have the option of helping out for a day or staying overnight and working both days. The current plan is to enter from the north parking lot on the first weekend. Depending on progress, for the second weekend, we may be ferried by boat to Buchan Bay and start from there. Some details are still being worked out.

There is no windfall on the trail, but it is badly overgrown, so our primary task will be to clear the brush (brush-cutters and loppers). We will also deal with standing water and drainage issues as needed.

BCHBC will be supporting us by transporting tools, gear, as well as setting up camp and feeding us. They will be providing 3 walled tents capable of sleeping up to 15 people.

Things to be aware of: no reliable sources of water (hydration pack), lots-o-ticks (spray clothes with permethrin) and the possibility of encountering rattle snakes (earbuds probably not a good idea).

We realize that this is a big ask, but we're hoping that a few of you will be able to help out. It should be a very cool adventure. If you can make it for sure, please mark yourself as "Going" on our Facebook Event for each of the days that you can make it, and leave a comment or message us if you'd like to camp overnight. We need to know how many people are coming, because if we don't have enough volunteers, the whole thing might get called off.

Thank you!

Map of Okanagan Mountain Provincial Park

Posted: Apr 26, 2019 at 19:55 Quote
So when you guys gunna tells us about the section 56 on Gillard... Lol Smile

Posted: Apr 27, 2019 at 8:35 Quote
cyberoptixs wrote:
So when you guys gunna tells us about the section 56 on Gillard... Lol Smile

Shhhhhh...

Posted: Apr 27, 2019 at 8:44 Quote
Recreation Sites and Trails BC has published their new policy on e-bikes.

In a nutshell:
"Class 1 e-bikes / MAC are permitted on Established Recreation Trails open to non-motorized use unless e-bikes are specifically prohibited."
"Class 2 and 3 e-bikes are not permitted on Established Recreation Trails that prohibit motorized vehicles."

Note: "The policy only applies to established trails managed by Recreation Sites and Trails BC and does not apply to trails managed by BC Parks or vacant provincial public land, local governments or trails on private land. Electric bikes may be still restricted outside of this policy under regulations or local bylaws."

For those who want to read the actual policy, you can find it [L=https://www2.gov.bc.ca/…/…/ebike_policy_final_04-25-2019.pdf]here[/L].

Of interest are section 6 and 7, which state:

6. e-bike Classification
RSTBC will rely on existing e-bike classifications and industry standards to maintain consistency with current provincial regulation, adjacent jurisdictions and manufacturing standards. Two categories of classifications will apply to e-bikes.

6.1 Standard e-bike Classification
Class 1 e-bike
A Class 1 e-bike means a bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling (pedal assist) and that ceases to provide assistance when the bicycle reaches 32 kilometers per hour and has a maximum continuous wattage output of 500 watts.
For the purposes of this policy a Class 1 e-bike meets the definition of a MAC.

6.2 Motorized e-bike Classification
Class 2 e-bike
A Class 2 e-bike means a bicycle equipped with a motor that can be used exclusively to propel the bicycle (throttle equipped) and that ceases to provide assistance when the bicycle reaches 32 kilometers per hour.
A class 2 e-bike is also a Motor Vehicle.
Class 3 e-bike
Class 3 e-bike means a bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling (pedal assist) and that ceases to provide assistance when the bicycle reaches 45 kilometers per hour.
A class 3 e-bike is also a Motor Vehicle.

7. Recreational e-bike Riding on Established Recreation Trails

7.1 Use of Established Recreation Trails
Recreational e-bike riding on Established Recreation Trails is a permitted activity unless either restricted or prohibited by a government order issued pursuant to section 58 of FRPA or by a sign posted in accordance with section 20(3) of the FRR or other enactments.

7.2 Default Designations
The following default designations apply unless specific exemptions, prohibitions or allowances are provided as described in section 7.1.
(a) All classes of e-bikes are permitted on Established Recreation Trails open to both motorized and non-motorized use,
(b) Class 1 e-bikes / MAC are permitted on Established Recreation Trails open to non-motorized use unless e-bikes are specifically prohibited.
(c) Class 2 and 3 e-bikes are not permitted on Established Recreation Trails that prohibit motorized vehicles.

Posted: Apr 29, 2019 at 1:46 Quote
Sunday morning biked in Gillard up the GFSR and up to the KVR. Saw firsthand the logging. For the most part Gorman's has done a good job preserving the trails but the landscape is definitely altered. Put some trail reports in on Trailforks, Poked into the top of Cat's Ass as well and it looked to be be in good condition with the exception of some mud and dirt bike tracks.

On another note both parking lots (new one and the mushroom pickers camp) had active and unattended burning fires at 9am in the morning. That and a tonne of spent ammo.

Posted: May 6, 2019 at 16:24 Quote
mennotele wrote:
On another note both parking lots (new one and the mushroom pickers camp) had active and unattended burning fires at 9am in the morning. That and a tonne of spent ammo.

You can report something like that here. You can even choose to be anonymous if you prefer.

It's going to take a lot of time and patience to change the mindset at Gillard. And maybe a little enforcement... every now and then.

Posted: May 7, 2019 at 7:57 Quote
henrifournier wrote:
mennotele wrote:
On another note both parking lots (new one and the mushroom pickers camp) had active and unattended burning fires at 9am in the morning. That and a tonne of spent ammo.

You can report something like that here. You can even choose to be anonymous if you prefer.

It's going to take a lot of time and patience to change the mindset at Gillard. And maybe a little enforcement... every now and then.

That's a great resource, thanks. I'd probably reserve it for the more egregious offences like target shooting over Lower Kerplop.

I agree that it it will take time change the mindset of users in Gillard and I think that the biggest factor will be trail development and the influx and presence of a respectful mountain biking community.

Posted: May 8, 2019 at 17:25 Quote
Anyone know how long it takes to recieve your season pass from Silver Star? Bought mine the other day just curious if they mail it? or do you lock it up?

Posted: May 11, 2019 at 16:57 Quote
juleous wrote:
k-towntrailryder wrote:
mennotele wrote:
Just saw the Facebook pictures of Gillard trails post logging. It's tough to appreciate the extend of damage given the perspective of the pictures but the Petite picture looks grim, It's only a few pictures though. Looking forward to them finishing up there and then the reclaim/rebuild.

Gillard's survived a fire, a windstorm, logging, trespass notices, mining and now more logging.

It'll be fine...

Anyone remember when casino/kerplop looked like this?


Sure do, I also recall the army of people we got out there clearing all that blowdown.

Literally here to just say holy shit there's a name I haven't seen in 5+ years!


 
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