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Posted: May 16, 2016 at 6:59 Quote
Hi everyone!
I don't quite understand the thing with metric sizing in the new Deluxe and Super Deluxe shocks. I was searching fot he info, but wasn't able to find it anywhere. The question is if the shocks'll fit into my Bronson v2 frame.

Cheers!

Posted: May 16, 2016 at 8:55 Quote
The whole metric sizing thing that rockshox is doing is to allow for more custom shock and and stroke lengths while also allowing for more bushing overlap within the shock. The shocks are not designed to be used with current bikes because those current frames were not designed around the shock and stroke lengths of the new shocks. anyone running a deluxe or super deluxe shock has had a custom machined link for their bike in order for the shock to be used

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Posted: May 17, 2016 at 12:12 Quote
The short answer? No, your frame is not compatible with the new RockShox Deluxe and Super Deluxe shocks. The Bronson is designed to work with shocks that have an eye-to-eye measurement of 200mm and a stroke of 57mm. With metric sizing, the closest eye-to-eye measurements are 190 and 210mm, neither of which would work properly with your frame.

Now for a little more explanation to try and clean up the muddy waters around the whole 'metric' standard. I think it's the actual word 'metric' that's causing confusion more than anything. After all, the dimensions for any shock can easily be converted from imperial to metric - what's the big deal? Basically, SRAM decided to revise the current system to make shock sizing more uniform; instead of having a mishmash of eye-to-eye measurements and stroke lengths the progression between sizes will now be in even increments. For example, there are currently shocks with eye-to-eye measurements that measure 190, 197, 200, and 215mm; it doesn't take a math wiz to see that the gaps in those measurements aren't the same. Under the new metric sizing system, standard mount shocks will come in 190, 210, and 230mm eye-to-eye measurements. The simplification also means there won't be a need for as many mounting hardware options, making it that much more likely that a shop will have the part you need in stock,

There's also the fact that by fixing the sizing, RockShox (and the other companies that will be adopting the new system) will be able to deliver shocks that have a consistent feel no matter the length. The air spring curve remains the same across the line, which makes it easier for frame designers to achieve their desired suspension feel. You can read more about the other design features found in the new shocks in our First Look article. For riders who aren't planning on getting a new bike any time soon but need a new rear shock, even though what you end up with won't say 'Deluxe' on it, non-metric shock options should be available for at least the next four years.

Posted: May 17, 2016 at 12:26 Quote
mikekazimer wrote:
The short answer? No, your frame is not compatible with the new RockShox Deluxe and Super Deluxe shocks. The Bronson is designed to work with shocks that have an eye-to-eye measurement of 200mm and a stroke of 57mm. With metric sizing, the closest eye-to-eye measurements are 190 and 210mm, neither of which would work properly with your frame.

Now for a little more explanation to try and clean up the muddy waters around the whole 'metric' standard. I think it's the actual word 'metric' that's causing confusion more than anything. After all, the dimensions for any shock can easily be converted from imperial to metric - what's the big deal? Basically, SRAM decided to revise the current system to make shock sizing more uniform; instead of having a mishmash of eye-to-eye measurements and stroke lengths the progression between sizes will now be in even increments. For example, there are currently shocks with eye-to-eye measurements that measure 190, 197, 200, and 215mm; it doesn't take a math wiz to see that the gaps in those measurements aren't the same. Under the new metric sizing system, standard mount shocks will come in 190, 210, and 230mm eye-to-eye measurements. The simplification also means there won't be a need for as many mounting hardware options, making it that much more likely that a shop will have the part you need in stock,

There's also the fact that by fixing the sizing, RockShox (and the other companies that will be adopting the new system) will be able to deliver shocks that have a consistent feel no matter the length. The air spring curve remains the same across the line, which makes it easier for frame designers to achieve their desired suspension feel. You can read more about the other design features found in the new shocks in our First Look article. For riders who aren't planning on getting a new bike any time soon but need a new rear shock, even though what you end up with won't say 'Deluxe' on it, non-metric shock options should be available for at least the next four years.

and Fox has not signed on yet, to my knowledge. so at least someone will be making shocks for people with old frames.

Posted: May 17, 2016 at 14:32 Quote
christopheryang wrote:
mikekazimer wrote:
The short answer? No, your frame is not compatible with the new RockShox Deluxe and Super Deluxe shocks. The Bronson is designed to work with shocks that have an eye-to-eye measurement of 200mm and a stroke of 57mm. With metric sizing, the closest eye-to-eye measurements are 190 and 210mm, neither of which would work properly with your frame.

Now for a little more explanation to try and clean up the muddy waters around the whole 'metric' standard. I think it's the actual word 'metric' that's causing confusion more than anything. After all, the dimensions for any shock can easily be converted from imperial to metric - what's the big deal? Basically, SRAM decided to revise the current system to make shock sizing more uniform; instead of having a mishmash of eye-to-eye measurements and stroke lengths the progression between sizes will now be in even increments. For example, there are currently shocks with eye-to-eye measurements that measure 190, 197, 200, and 215mm; it doesn't take a math wiz to see that the gaps in those measurements aren't the same. Under the new metric sizing system, standard mount shocks will come in 190, 210, and 230mm eye-to-eye measurements. The simplification also means there won't be a need for as many mounting hardware options, making it that much more likely that a shop will have the part you need in stock,

There's also the fact that by fixing the sizing, RockShox (and the other companies that will be adopting the new system) will be able to deliver shocks that have a consistent feel no matter the length. The air spring curve remains the same across the line, which makes it easier for frame designers to achieve their desired suspension feel. You can read more about the other design features found in the new shocks in our First Look article. For riders who aren't planning on getting a new bike any time soon but need a new rear shock, even though what you end up with won't say 'Deluxe' on it, non-metric shock options should be available for at least the next four years.

and Fox has not signed on yet, to my knowledge. so at least someone will be making shocks for people with old frames.
Rockshox said they'd be making standard sized shocks as well until the demand for the decreases to a point where its no longer profitable to continue producing and selling them

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