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Posted: Nov 7, 2022 at 10:36 Quote
Canyon6 wrote:
spaceofades wrote:
Canyon6 wrote:


That's good to know but it would be a bummer to have to pay upwards of $35 just to get the fitting.
basic brake bleed fittings, damper fitting, and reverb fittings are all the exact same thread size.

Then that would indicate that the standard sram brake bleed fitting should work. Has anyone found this to be the case?

I've found it's pretty important to have a fitting that uses an oring seal placed at the correct distance from the threads. I've previously used a fitting that threaded in OK, but didn't have the seal in the right spot. Although I could use it to burp air out of the damper, I couldn't pull a vacuum to suck any residual bubbles out, so the bleed wasn't as good. With the proper fitting (and a good quality syringe), I can pull a solid vaccuum, and get a really solid bleed. What ever you end up doing, keep that in mind.

Here's the picture that DVO sent me (they called it a Rockshox tip). I'll update tonight if the one I'm using looks any different, but I think it's the same:
Sram RS bleed fitting that works for DVO Topaz bleed port.
flag Canyon6
Posted: Nov 11, 2022 at 7:40 Quote
mammal wrote:
Canyon6 wrote:
spaceofades wrote:
basic brake bleed fittings, damper fitting, and reverb fittings are all the exact same thread size.

Then that would indicate that the standard sram brake bleed fitting should work. Has anyone found this to be the case?

I've found it's pretty important to have a fitting that uses an oring seal placed at the correct distance from the threads. I've previously used a fitting that threaded in OK, but didn't have the seal in the right spot. Although I could use it to burp air out of the damper, I couldn't pull a vacuum to suck any residual bubbles out, so the bleed wasn't as good. With the proper fitting (and a good quality syringe), I can pull a solid vaccuum, and get a really solid bleed. What ever you end up doing, keep that in mind.

Here's the picture that DVO sent me (they called it a Rockshox tip). I'll update tonight if the one I'm using looks any different, but I think it's the same:
Sram RS bleed fitting that works for DVO Topaz bleed port.

Thanks for including the pictures as that fitting looks exactly the same as the extra fitting that comes in the Sram bleed kit for the older brakes prior to bleeding edge. That would be pretty cool if I can just use the extra fitting from the bleed kit. The problem now is that the two syringes obviously have had DOT in them and you need a special syringe for the fitting to thread into.
flag WasatchEnduro
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Posted: Nov 11, 2022 at 12:09 Quote
Does anyone have experience with both the Jade and the Jade-X? Can the LSC dial on the Jade function as a pseudo climb switch? I find the climb switch on the Jade-X a bit extreme and the middle LSC setting not always firm enough whilst climbing.

I’m researching options for long shocking my bike and a 216x63 (8.5x2.5) is the best starting point and both shocks are available in this size as are different size spring clips to limit stroke so I don’t end up going too far if I decide to pull the trigger. As this is an experiment the Jade is a cheaper option.

Bike is a Ripmo v2. I have 7-8mm of clearance between the cascade clevis and the seat tube so a 216 e2e should work fine with the added benefit of raising the bb so I can try a smaller rear wheel out back while preserving the geo, at least mostly.
flag breakthebeta
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Posted: Nov 12, 2022 at 23:19 Quote
WasatchEnduro wrote:
Does anyone have experience with both the Jade and the Jade-X? Can the LSC dial on the Jade function as a pseudo climb switch? I find the climb switch on the Jade-X a bit extreme and the middle LSC setting not always firm enough whilst climbing.

I’m researching options for long shocking my bike and a 216x63 (8.5x2.5) is the best starting point and both shocks are available in this size as are different size spring clips to limit stroke so I don’t end up going too far if I decide to pull the trigger. As this is an experiment the Jade is a cheaper option.

Bike is a Ripmo v2. I have 7-8mm of clearance between the cascade clevis and the seat tube so a 216 e2e should work fine with the added benefit of raising the bb so I can try a smaller rear wheel out back while preserving the geo, at least mostly.

I had a Jade on a bike I only occasionally would pedal up hill. I would rather climb with the compression open than have to count the number of clicks to open and close a bunch of times. Get the shock Jade X. I'm sure there will be some Black Friday sales.
flag bdreynolds7
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Posted: Nov 13, 2022 at 11:18 Quote
Found some scratches on the stanchion on my Topaz T3. Is this easy to swap out myself? Looks like DVO has them in stock for about $100
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Posted: Nov 13, 2022 at 13:45 Quote
bdreynolds7 wrote:
Found some scratches on the stanchion on my Topaz T3. Is this easy to swap out myself? Looks like DVO has them in stock for about $100

Put that $100 towards a Gen 3 shock
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Posted: Nov 13, 2022 at 15:15 Quote
Lololmalol wrote:
bdreynolds7 wrote:
Found some scratches on the stanchion on my Topaz T3. Is this easy to swap out myself? Looks like DVO has them in stock for about $100

Put that $100 towards a Gen 3 shock

And sell the defective shock for $100? If I get a new shock, I'm going to buy a coil instead of another air shock Big Grin
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Posted: Nov 13, 2022 at 16:23 Quote
After looking at the Gen 3 Topaz, looks like they made the inner shaft 27% bigger to help trunnion mount bikes (which mine is). Maybe that upgrade would be worthwhile... Lets see if they make shocks 25% off like forks are right now Big Grin
flag ka81
Posted: Nov 14, 2022 at 7:16 Quote
Need some hep with fork, please..



Brand new out of the box DVO Diamond D1 29" boost 160 mm.

OTT - 3 full turns from Wide-Open.

Inflated it with 120 psi.



So, I measured travel with ruler - ~163 mm.

Pushed fork down, let it go up. Measuring travel - it's 155 mm. I pull the crown up and it goes, till ~163 mm.



WHY ?
flag mammal
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Posted: Nov 14, 2022 at 8:40 Quote
bdreynolds7 wrote:
After looking at the Gen 3 Topaz, looks like they made the inner shaft 27% bigger to help trunnion mount bikes (which mine is). Maybe that upgrade would be worthwhile... Lets see if they make shocks 25% off like forks are right now Big Grin
They've also tweaked the air chamber volumes, making initial stroke more plush. If I see a deal on a Ripmo AF take-off, I may jump on it.
flag mammal
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Posted: Nov 14, 2022 at 8:41 Quote
ka81 wrote:
Need some hep with fork, please..



Brand new out of the box DVO Diamond D1 29" boost 160 mm.

OTT - 3 full turns from Wide-Open.

Inflated it with 120 psi.



So, I measured travel with ruler - ~163 mm.

Pushed fork down, let it go up. Measuring travel - it's 155 mm. I pull the crown up and it goes, till ~163 mm.



WHY ?
Bushings too tight or no oil in the lowers? Sounds like it's getting stuck.
flag ka81
Posted: Nov 14, 2022 at 9:12 Quote
mammal wrote:
Bushings too tight .
uhm.. i don't think it would cause a stuck only on last few mm's.. ?

mammal wrote:
no oil in the lowers? .
after getting the fork - immediately lowers-serviced it. Oil in the lowers, a little bit of oil even between bushing and dust wipers.. )
flag WasatchEnduro
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Posted: Nov 14, 2022 at 10:05 Quote
breakthebeta wrote:
WasatchEnduro wrote:
Does anyone have experience with both the Jade and the Jade-X? Can the LSC dial on the Jade function as a pseudo climb switch? I find the climb switch on the Jade-X a bit extreme and the middle LSC setting not always firm enough whilst climbing.

I’m researching options for long shocking my bike and a 216x63 (8.5x2.5) is the best starting point and both shocks are available in this size as are different size spring clips to limit stroke so I don’t end up going too far if I decide to pull the trigger. As this is an experiment the Jade is a cheaper option.

Bike is a Ripmo v2. I have 7-8mm of clearance between the cascade clevis and the seat tube so a 216 e2e should work fine with the added benefit of raising the bb so I can try a smaller rear wheel out back while preserving the geo, at least mostly.

I had a Jade on a bike I only occasionally would pedal up hill. I would rather climb with the compression open than have to count the number of clicks to open and close a bunch of times. Get the shock Jade X. I'm sure there will be some Black Friday sales.

Thanks for the input. After unbolting the shock from my forward mount to double check all clearances if I extend the e2e, it actually won’t work as my f/r triangles contact each other after only a few mm of yoke extension.

I’m gonna keep my eyes open for shock sales as I’d consider ditching my current coil for the newest Topaz plus it’d match my Onyx.
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Posted: Dec 28, 2022 at 20:53 Quote
i've got a 210x55mm jade x. i noticed a little sloppiness in the rear of the bike. i've traced this to the shock. i changed out the shock and it disappeared.
now if i bolt the shock into the bike frame (for steadiness) and i grab the body of the shock, i have noticable slop/movement were the shaft enters the shock body. what do i need to cure this? is it the white nylon (glide ring) from the shim piston? can i buy this separate to the shim piston? would it be the seal head of the recommended service kit that screws into the shock body? new shaft?

also if i just open up the shock body by unthreading where the shaft enters the body, do i have to perform a full bleed on reinstall if that is all that i touch?
flag ka81
Posted: Dec 28, 2022 at 21:12 Quote
As for the glide ring - they sell only piston assy. https://dvosuspension.com/product/piston-bolt-group-jade-x/

But, once i bought glide ring for my marzocchi fork separetly by ordering it custom-made, so ..

 


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