2018 Remedy or Slash?

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2018 Remedy or Slash?
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flag GianE
Posted: Nov 4, 2017 at 11:34 Quote
Hi everyone

I'm going to buy a new ride, and it will be either the 2018 Remedy 9.8 or Slash 9.9 (framekit). I'm an experienced rider and will be using it mainly for local trails, alpine stuff, some shuttle days.

I demoed both bikes (for a short ride), and here's the thing: I found the Slash to climb sluggish compared to the Remedy, I actually hated it on the climbs - and i do a lot of climbing. On the other hand, i've been riding 29ers for years and never ever wanted do size down.

Anyone ever ridden these bikes? What are your thoughts on climbing performance vs. descending?

Cheers
Gian
flag dandriller
Posted: Nov 11, 2017 at 9:50 Quote
Remedy would lean towards being more of an all-rounder type of frame. The head tube angle can be adjusted from 66.1 degrees to 65.6 degrees. The Remedy climbs super well! I run mine in the 66.1 degree setting, which has made the 45 minute climbs great! Also, descending is still great given that with body weight over the rear wheel the head tube angle will slacken anyways (as long as your sag is setup properly).
flag charmingbob
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Posted: Nov 15, 2017 at 22:28 Quote
I have the 2017 Slash 9.8. Where I live we have big climbs with nice long descents. whenever I'm climbing I always firm up the rear shock and drop the fork from 160mm down to 130mm. Personally I think the my Slash climbs great, I have no problems with tight switchbacks or step technical sections. That being said I tried my friends 2018 Slash 9.8 which doesn't have the travel adjust fork and I thought it was a bit tougher on the climbs with the front end higher up then what I'm use to. If you do go for the Slash I'd recommend get a Talsa or the dual position Lyric
flag nerds-on-dirt-mtb
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Posted: Nov 17, 2017 at 10:56 Quote
I just got a 2018 Remedy 8, I had previously been on 29er XC bikes so I may not be the best authority but I'm loving the 27.5. The only time I have missed the 29er so far has been on really long gradual climbs. Steep ups and downs have been a blast on the 650b so far, only two rides though (dam you winter!) but I really like it!.
flag GianE
Posted: Nov 19, 2017 at 3:35 Quote
Thank you guys! Still a difficult choice Smile
flag vanillarice19
Posted: Dec 6, 2017 at 6:57 Quote
If u tested a 2018 9.7 the wheels are heavy. The 2018 slash 9.7/9.8’s have an Aluminum chainstay now compared to 2018. However if you buy the 9.9 frameset, its full carbon and is super light. Put on some carbon wheels and a dual position fork to drop that HT a couple degrees and your 28-29lb bike will not be hard to pedal up.

I went this route. My 18 Slash weighs 28.5lbs w/o pedals with Minion 2.5/2.3 DHF/DHR exo combo. Pedals just as well as the 2015 Remedy 29er 9.8 it replaced
flag MrDiamondDave
Posted: Dec 31, 2017 at 16:23 Quote
mikeyin19 wrote:
If u tested a 2018 9.7 the wheels are heavy. The 2018 slash 9.7/9.8’s have an Aluminum chainstay now compared to 2018. However if you buy the 9.9 frameset, its full carbon and is super light. Put on some carbon wheels and a dual position fork to drop that HT a couple degrees and your 28-29lb bike will not be hard to pedal up.

I went this route. My 18 Slash weighs 28.5lbs w/o pedals with Minion 2.5/2.3 DHF/DHR exo combo. Pedals just as well as the 2015 Remedy 29er 9.8 it replaced

2018 9.7 is alloy chainstays and seatstays btw, I have ridden both new Slashes and remedys, I have to say I am in the same boat as I want to sell my stache 9.8 and get a slash 9.9 frame.. put 2.6 tires and travel adjust fork 160/130

Personally I have owned a 2014,15,17 29 Fuels, 2016 27.5 remedy, 2016 Remdey 29 and loved them all, the remedy is hard to beat, ( I loved the 29 Remedy) you can fit a 2.6 in the rear, and 2.8 front if you want. I like to ride lots of techy XC, local stuff in TN(Raccoon MTN). I want to get into more shuttle runs at Windrock park. For me the Slash makes a lot of sense. But I am 5'10" and ride 18.5 bikes. I rode a 19 and 17 Slash and I can't really decide whats best.... I hope a 18.5 Frame size comes out. I think I am leaning to the remedy for a bit more "playful" bike and sizing. I love 29 a lot and just burned out on the Fuel, but it is so good.

If you like 29er, climb up, and do shuttles I say the Slash is the way, with travel adjust front fork though. I think the remedy climbs great and the Slash does a great job. Comparing a stock 9.8 with 160 front could feel a bit harder on steep ups, I find the 27.5 climbs fine as 150 / 160 setup. IMO

If your into a fast bike, love 29, want to be the fastest from A to B, Slash.
If your riding is a bit more jumping gaps and riding off of drops, session' stuff and not just trying to get from point A to B the fastest; Remedy. IMO
Either option is a winner!
flag jeremy3220
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Posted: Jan 4, 2018 at 14:36 Quote
MrDiamondDave wrote:

Personally I have owned a 2014,15,17 29 Fuels, 2016 27.5 remedy, 2016 Remdey 29 and loved them all, the remedy is hard to beat, ( I loved the 29 Remedy) you can fit a 2.6 in the rear, and 2.8 front if you want. I like to ride lots of techy XC, local stuff in TN(Raccoon MTN).

Do you happen to know of any shops around east TN that have Remedys in their demo fleet? I haven't had luck finding one to try in mid TN.
flag MrDiamondDave
Posted: Jan 8, 2018 at 5:58 Quote
jeremy3220 wrote:
MrDiamondDave wrote:

Personally I have owned a 2014,15,17 29 Fuels, 2016 27.5 remedy, 2016 Remdey 29 and loved them all, the remedy is hard to beat, ( I loved the 29 Remedy) you can fit a 2.6 in the rear, and 2.8 front if you want. I like to ride lots of techy XC, local stuff in TN(Raccoon MTN).

Do you happen to know of any shops around east TN that have Remedys in their demo fleet? I haven't had luck finding one to try in mid TN.

I will say this, I don't know of any demo remedys, But the Trek Store in chatty has a 30 day policy on bike sales! Return it if you don't like it... Or want a different size, model, etc.
flag jeremy3220
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Posted: Jan 8, 2018 at 8:13 Quote
Thanks, maybe I can catch a Trek demo event in a few months.
flag vanillarice19
Posted: Jan 9, 2018 at 14:16 Quote
If you get a Dual Position Fork, Make sure it has the ability to accept volume spacers. I have a 17 Lyrik 160/130 fork with 3 Bottomless tokens installed. The 17 Talas doesnt take volume spacers and not sure if the 18 does or not.

Both are great bikes.
flag jeremy3220
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Posted: Jan 11, 2018 at 5:08 Quote
I'm considering the Remedy 8 which has the Lyrik, I didn't see anywhere on Trek's site about it being dual position.
flag MrDiamondDave
Posted: Jan 11, 2018 at 5:21 Quote
jeremy3220 wrote:
I'm considering the Remedy 8 which has the Lyrik, I didn't see anywhere on Trek's site about it being dual position.

It is solo air on the 2018 Remedy 8 That is a killer bike for the price, It's on the top of the list for my next whip. The Slash is #1 but I have a sizing issue, between 17 and 19 frames I wish they had a 18.5 frame, That is my size, hench the Remedy in a 18.5
flag jeremy3220
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Posted: Jan 11, 2018 at 7:00 Quote
I understand the sizing issues, I'm 6'4.5" so the Remedy may not even be big enough. I tend to be either barely within the recommended height range for XL bikes or just outside of it.
flag gnarnaimo
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Posted: Mar 1, 2018 at 15:18 Quote
5'10" on a large (19.5) 2018 Remedy 8 here. 18.5 felt really short to me. Leave it at 65.6* and with the suspension wide open for climbs and descents, it's brilliant.
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