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flag jerome
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Posted: Nov 26, 2017 at 21:37 Quote
You do know that a ebike from factory are topped out at 30km per hour. Also they don’t have enough power to skid let alone go 30 km per hour on climbs. I have tried some, I don’t own one now but I am a bit perplexed at the hate people have for them given that they are not the source of evil. Horses, dirt bikes, quads side by sides or for that matter cows can and do create a lot of trail erosion. Riding muddy trails with any bike does also a lot of damage.
flag onemind123
Posted: Nov 26, 2017 at 21:57 Quote
jerome wrote:
You do know that a ebike from factory are topped out at 30km per hour. Also they don’t have enough power to skid let alone go 30 km per hour on climbs. I have tried some, I don’t own one now but I am a bit perplexed at the hate people have for them given that they are not the source of evil. Horses, dirt bikes, quads side by sides or for that matter cows can and do create a lot of trail erosion. Riding muddy trails with any bike does also a lot of damage.

People are scared by change.
flag gbeaks33
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Posted: Nov 26, 2017 at 22:55 Quote
jerome wrote:
You do know that a ebike from factory are topped out at 30km per hour. Also they don’t have enough power to skid let alone go 30 km per hour on climbs. I have tried some, I don’t own one now but I am a bit perplexed at the hate people have for them given that they are not the source of evil. Horses, dirt bikes, quads side by sides or for that matter cows can and do create a lot of trail erosion. Riding muddy trails with any bike does also a lot of damage.

I don't know if this is true but I hear you can hack them to take the speed regulator off so instead of a 3x input power you can get a lot more. Dude a few pages back said he did this too.
flag mollow
Posted: Nov 27, 2017 at 6:03 Quote
jerome wrote:
You do know that a ebike from factory are topped out at 30km per hour. Also they don’t have enough power to skid let alone go 30 km per hour on climbs. I have tried some, I don’t own one now but I am a bit perplexed at the hate people have for them given that they are not the source of evil. Horses, dirt bikes, quads side by sides or for that matter cows can and do create a lot of trail erosion. Riding muddy trails with any bike does also a lot of damage.

Well like I said, I saw it from.my eyes, that f*cker was the only one leaving tire marks on the climb trail. All those things you mention do create more trail erosion than a bicycle, thats the reason they are not allowed in our trails. Ebikes don't have their place either, ride it on moto trails or on unsanctionned bike trails
flag DonLopez
Posted: Nov 27, 2017 at 6:09 Quote
An e-bike IS a motorized vehicle and therefore should not go where motorized vehicles are prohibited. E-gearing may have a motor to shift the gears, but since they can’t move the bike are not motorized.
I don’t own the land where I ride, so I don’t make the rules. They encourage riders to report motorcycles and ATVs, but haven’t said anything about e-bikes. They do allow horses, joggers, hikers, and dogs, I have seen deer, but no cows or hogs yet.
The preferred direction is counter-clockwise, but I have ridden the opposite direction when I knew the trail wasn’t busy (like riding a totally different trail). Did a 10-mile loop the wrong way once and never saw anyone. Rode yesterday afternoon with 40-50 cars at the trailhead and would never consider going the wrong way.
flag mjc1973
Posted: Nov 27, 2017 at 19:10 Quote
I am the mega stoked owner of an e-bike as of last week. Scott E-Genuis Plus with the Bosch system. Its flat out F***ing amaze balls. Unlike the majority of Pink Bike users, I am well over 40, have a job that makes me know the Air Canada Lounge attendants far too well, have a 5 year old rug rat with a need for attention at all times and a wife who actually likes me being around. What does all this equate to? A schedule the makes riding time precious to say the least. This new bike will allow me to hit more Kananakis AB trails in less time. Win.
I also have been riding trails for longer than many Pink Bikers have been alive for. Raise your hand if you rode for 3 years before Mag21's even came out? Anybody here ever run a Tioga disk wheel? I did. I've earned my turns and feel no shame in having an e-bike to allow me to keep my ass high in the mountains more often and having more fun. I no longer relate the success of my rides with the amount of suffering I put myself through. Screw that. I know trial etiquette (better than most who shuttle past me on fire roads at Moose doing at least 90km/h), and have been riding long enough to know what damages a trail and what doesn't (people here saying that ebikes tear up trail more that DH bikes "brapping" around corners are high).
I wasn't too sure at first but then actually rode one of these bikes. I peddled HARD, my HR was where it should have been at while riding, I was sweating and I was smiling. Done and done. Haters gonna hate but know this - I know a lot of douchey riders who are not "e-biked" and do a far greater disservice to cycling than a responsible e-biker ever will.
Get over it people -
flag newbermuda
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Posted: Nov 27, 2017 at 19:38 Quote
So i tried an e-bike this week. the new Spec Kenevo. I wanted to hate it, i really did, but it was honestly really fun. It would never replace my normal bike, and while i get the hate about not really pedaling to the top and stuff like that, horses and idiots tend to do a lot more damage than e-bikes. by idiots, i mean guys that wreck muddy trails by being idiots. I also think there is a niche for e-bikes, maybe when the bike park is closed and you want to shuttle some laps, or really really steep fire roads, but definitely not on normal single track. it's more of a special situation bike, but it has it's place and its really fun in that place.
flag arrowheadrush
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Posted: Nov 28, 2017 at 13:24 Quote
mjc1973 wrote:
I am the mega stoked owner of an e-bike as of last week. Scott E-Genuis Plus with the Bosch system. Its flat out F***ing amaze balls. Unlike the majority of Pink Bike users, I am well over 40, have a job that makes me know the Air Canada Lounge attendants far too well, have a 5 year old rug rat with a need for attention at all times and a wife who actually likes me being around. What does all this equate to? A schedule the makes riding time precious to say the least. This new bike will allow me to hit more Kananakis AB trails in less time. Win.
I also have been riding trails for longer than many Pink Bikers have been alive for. Raise your hand if you rode for 3 years before Mag21's even came out? Anybody here ever run a Tioga disk wheel? I did. I've earned my turns and feel no shame in having an e-bike to allow me to keep my ass high in the mountains more often and having more fun. I no longer relate the success of my rides with the amount of suffering I put myself through. Screw that. I know trial etiquette (better than most who shuttle past me on fire roads at Moose doing at least 90km/h), and have been riding long enough to know what damages a trail and what doesn't (people here saying that ebikes tear up trail more that DH bikes "brapping" around corners are high).
I wasn't too sure at first but then actually rode one of these bikes. I peddled HARD, my HR was where it should have been at while riding, I was sweating and I was smiling. Done and done. Haters gonna hate but know this - I know a lot of douchey riders who are not "e-biked" and do a far greater disservice to cycling than a responsible e-biker ever will.
Get over it people -

Its great that you are enjoying it and i don't have anything against them, but i believe e-bikes are not allowed on Kananaskis trails (West Bragg Creek) as it is strictly a non-motorized area.
flag mjc1973
Posted: Nov 28, 2017 at 21:47 Quote
arrowheadrush wrote:
mjc1973 wrote:
I am the mega stoked owner of an e-bike as of last week. Scott E-Genuis Plus with the Bosch system. Its flat out F***ing amaze balls. Unlike the majority of Pink Bike users, I am well over 40, have a job that makes me know the Air Canada Lounge attendants far too well, have a 5 year old rug rat with a need for attention at all times and a wife who actually likes me being around. What does all this equate to? A schedule the makes riding time precious to say the least. This new bike will allow me to hit more Kananakis AB trails in less time. Win.
I also have been riding trails for longer than many Pink Bikers have been alive for. Raise your hand if you rode for 3 years before Mag21's even came out? Anybody here ever run a Tioga disk wheel? I did. I've earned my turns and feel no shame in having an e-bike to allow me to keep my ass high in the mountains more often and having more fun. I no longer relate the success of my rides with the amount of suffering I put myself through. Screw that. I know trial etiquette (better than most who shuttle past me on fire roads at Moose doing at least 90km/h), and have been riding long enough to know what damages a trail and what doesn't (people here saying that ebikes tear up trail more that DH bikes "brapping" around corners are high).
I wasn't too sure at first but then actually rode one of these bikes. I peddled HARD, my HR was where it should have been at while riding, I was sweating and I was smiling. Done and done. Haters gonna hate but know this - I know a lot of douchey riders who are not "e-biked" and do a far greater disservice to cycling than a responsible e-biker ever will.
Get over it people -

Its great that you are enjoying it and i don't have anything against them, but i believe e-bikes are not allowed on Kananaskis trails (West Bragg Creek) as it is strictly a non-motorized area.

Hey there - This is directly from the Provence of Alberta.......

Provincial requirements for use

ALBERTA

Alberta identifies e-bikes as "power bicycles" and is consistent with the federal definition of "power-assisted bicycle" in MVSR CRC, c 1038 s 2. Motor output must not exceed 500 W (0.671 hp) and e-bikes cannot travel faster than 32 km/h (20 mph). Fully operable pedals are required. No driver's license, vehicle insurance, or vehicle registration is required.

Since no licence, insurance or registration is required by the Provence, a pedal assist bike is non motorized. Thats my understanding of it anyways until someone in power tells me otherwise. Happy riding!
flag mjc1973
Posted: Nov 28, 2017 at 22:01 Quote
arrowheadrush wrote:
mjc1973 wrote:
I am the mega stoked owner of an e-bike as of last week. Scott E-Genuis Plus with the Bosch system. Its flat out F***ing amaze balls. Unlike the majority of Pink Bike users, I am well over 40, have a job that makes me know the Air Canada Lounge attendants far too well, have a 5 year old rug rat with a need for attention at all times and a wife who actually likes me being around. What does all this equate to? A schedule the makes riding time precious to say the least. This new bike will allow me to hit more Kananakis AB trails in less time. Win.
I also have been riding trails for longer than many Pink Bikers have been alive for. Raise your hand if you rode for 3 years before Mag21's even came out? Anybody here ever run a Tioga disk wheel? I did. I've earned my turns and feel no shame in having an e-bike to allow me to keep my ass high in the mountains more often and having more fun. I no longer relate the success of my rides with the amount of suffering I put myself through. Screw that. I know trial etiquette (better than most who shuttle past me on fire roads at Moose doing at least 90km/h), and have been riding long enough to know what damages a trail and what doesn't (people here saying that ebikes tear up trail more that DH bikes "brapping" around corners are high).
I wasn't too sure at first but then actually rode one of these bikes. I peddled HARD, my HR was where it should have been at while riding, I was sweating and I was smiling. Done and done. Haters gonna hate but know this - I know a lot of douchey riders who are not "e-biked" and do a far greater disservice to cycling than a responsible e-biker ever will.
Get over it people -

Its great that you are enjoying it and i don't have anything against them, but i believe e-bikes are not allowed on Kananaskis trails (West Bragg Creek) as it is strictly a non-motorized area.


Hey again - and this from the Federal Govnt who clearly states pedal assist bikes are Power Assist Bicycles and not motorized.

"power-assisted bicycle means a vehicle that:

(a) has steering handlebars and is equipped with pedals,

(b) is designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground,

(c) is capable of being propelled by muscular power,

(d) has one or more electric motors that have, singly or in combination, the following characteristics:

(i) it has a total continuous power output rating, measured at the shaft of each motor, of 500 W or less,

(ii) if it is engaged by the use of muscular power, power assistance immediately ceases when the muscular power ceases,

(iii) if it is engaged by the use of an accelerator controller, power assistance immediately ceases when the brakes are applied, and

(iv) it is incapable of providing further assistance when the bicycle attains a speed of 32 km/h on level ground,

(e) bears a label that is permanently affixed by the manufacturer and appears in a conspicuous location stating, in both official languages, that the vehicle is a power-assisted bicycle as defined in this subsection, and

(f) has one of the following safety features,

(i) an enabling mechanism to turn the electric motor on and off that is separate from the accelerator controller and fitted in such a manner that it is operable by the driver, or

(ii) a mechanism that prevents the motor from being engaged before the bicycle attains a speed of 3 km/h; (bicyclette assistée)"

Happy riding!!
flag mjc1973
Posted: Nov 28, 2017 at 22:05 Quote
arrowheadrush wrote:
mjc1973 wrote:
I am the mega stoked owner of an e-bike as of last week. Scott E-Genuis Plus with the Bosch system. Its flat out F***ing amaze balls. Unlike the majority of Pink Bike users, I am well over 40, have a job that makes me know the Air Canada Lounge attendants far too well, have a 5 year old rug rat with a need for attention at all times and a wife who actually likes me being around. What does all this equate to? A schedule the makes riding time precious to say the least. This new bike will allow me to hit more Kananakis AB trails in less time. Win.
I also have been riding trails for longer than many Pink Bikers have been alive for. Raise your hand if you rode for 3 years before Mag21's even came out? Anybody here ever run a Tioga disk wheel? I did. I've earned my turns and feel no shame in having an e-bike to allow me to keep my ass high in the mountains more often and having more fun. I no longer relate the success of my rides with the amount of suffering I put myself through. Screw that. I know trial etiquette (better than most who shuttle past me on fire roads at Moose doing at least 90km/h), and have been riding long enough to know what damages a trail and what doesn't (people here saying that ebikes tear up trail more that DH bikes "brapping" around corners are high).
I wasn't too sure at first but then actually rode one of these bikes. I peddled HARD, my HR was where it should have been at while riding, I was sweating and I was smiling. Done and done. Haters gonna hate but know this - I know a lot of douchey riders who are not "e-biked" and do a far greater disservice to cycling than a responsible e-biker ever will.
Get over it people -

Its great that you are enjoying it and i don't have anything against them, but i believe e-bikes are not allowed on Kananaskis trails (West Bragg Creek) as it is strictly a non-motorized area.

.....and lastly - from the Feds who state this about "motor" cycles.....


"motorcycle means a vehicle that is of the subclasses enclosed motorcycle, open motorcycle, limited-speed motorcycle or motor tricycle, and

(a) is designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground,

(b) has a minimum wheel rim diameter of 250 mm, and

(c) has a minimum wheelbase of 1 016 mm,

but does not include a power-assisted bicycle".

Happy riding!
flag XCMark
Posted: Nov 28, 2017 at 22:08 Quote
mjc1973 wrote:
arrowheadrush wrote:
mjc1973 wrote:
I am the mega stoked owner of an e-bike as of last week. Scott E-Genuis Plus with the Bosch system. Its flat out F***ing amaze balls. Unlike the majority of Pink Bike users, I am well over 40, have a job that makes me know the Air Canada Lounge attendants far too well, have a 5 year old rug rat with a need for attention at all times and a wife who actually likes me being around. What does all this equate to? A schedule the makes riding time precious to say the least. This new bike will allow me to hit more Kananakis AB trails in less time. Win.
I also have been riding trails for longer than many Pink Bikers have been alive for. Raise your hand if you rode for 3 years before Mag21's even came out? Anybody here ever run a Tioga disk wheel? I did. I've earned my turns and feel no shame in having an e-bike to allow me to keep my ass high in the mountains more often and having more fun. I no longer relate the success of my rides with the amount of suffering I put myself through. Screw that. I know trial etiquette (better than most who shuttle past me on fire roads at Moose doing at least 90km/h), and have been riding long enough to know what damages a trail and what doesn't (people here saying that ebikes tear up trail more that DH bikes "brapping" around corners are high).
I wasn't too sure at first but then actually rode one of these bikes. I peddled HARD, my HR was where it should have been at while riding, I was sweating and I was smiling. Done and done. Haters gonna hate but know this - I know a lot of douchey riders who are not "e-biked" and do a far greater disservice to cycling than a responsible e-biker ever will.
Get over it people -

Its great that you are enjoying it and i don't have anything against them, but i believe e-bikes are not allowed on Kananaskis trails (West Bragg Creek) as it is strictly a non-motorized area.


Hey again - and this from the Federal Govnt who clearly states pedal assist bikes are Power Assist Bicycles and not motorized.

"power-assisted bicycle means a vehicle that:

(a) has steering handlebars and is equipped with pedals,

(b) is designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground,

(c) is capable of being propelled by muscular power,

(d) has one or more electric motors that have, singly or in combination, the following characteristics:

(i) it has a total continuous power output rating, measured at the shaft of each motor, of 500 W or less,

(ii) if it is engaged by the use of muscular power, power assistance immediately ceases when the muscular power ceases,

(iii) if it is engaged by the use of an accelerator controller, power assistance immediately ceases when the brakes are applied, and

(iv) it is incapable of providing further assistance when the bicycle attains a speed of 32 km/h on level ground,

(e) bears a label that is permanently affixed by the manufacturer and appears in a conspicuous location stating, in both official languages, that the vehicle is a power-assisted bicycle as defined in this subsection, and

(f) has one of the following safety features,

(i) an enabling mechanism to turn the electric motor on and off that is separate from the accelerator controller and fitted in such a manner that it is operable by the driver, or

(ii) a mechanism that prevents the motor from being engaged before the bicycle attains a speed of 3 km/h; (bicyclette assistée)"

Happy riding!!
What is the code on that statute?
flag mjc1973
Posted: Nov 28, 2017 at 22:27 Quote
arrowheadrush wrote:
mjc1973 wrote:
I am the mega stoked owner of an e-bike as of last week. Scott E-Genuis Plus with the Bosch system. Its flat out F***ing amaze balls. Unlike the majority of Pink Bike users, I am well over 40, have a job that makes me know the Air Canada Lounge attendants far too well, have a 5 year old rug rat with a need for attention at all times and a wife who actually likes me being around. What does all this equate to? A schedule the makes riding time precious to say the least. This new bike will allow me to hit more Kananakis AB trails in less time. Win.
I also have been riding trails for longer than many Pink Bikers have been alive for. Raise your hand if you rode for 3 years before Mag21's even came out? Anybody here ever run a Tioga disk wheel? I did. I've earned my turns and feel no shame in having an e-bike to allow me to keep my ass high in the mountains more often and having more fun. I no longer relate the success of my rides with the amount of suffering I put myself through. Screw that. I know trial etiquette (better than most who shuttle past me on fire roads at Moose doing at least 90km/h), and have been riding long enough to know what damages a trail and what doesn't (people here saying that ebikes tear up trail more that DH bikes "brapping" around corners are high).
I wasn't too sure at first but then actually rode one of these bikes. I peddled HARD, my HR was where it should have been at while riding, I was sweating and I was smiling. Done and done. Haters gonna hate but know this - I know a lot of douchey riders who are not "e-biked" and do a far greater disservice to cycling than a responsible e-biker ever will.
Get over it people -

Its great that you are enjoying it and i don't have anything against them, but i believe e-bikes are not allowed on Kananaskis trails (West Bragg Creek) as it is strictly a non-motorized area.

......and lastly (!!) from a recent Canmore Article

"Jeff Eamon (Parks Alberta Trail Supervisor) said he’s seeing more and more e-bikes in West Bragg Creek, and the Tom Snow trail has been used as a test spot by Parks staff. Alberta Parks plans to use more of them. On mountain bike trails, their range is 30 km, which must be monitored closely. Since the bikes weigh in excess of 20+ kilograms, pushing one out of the backcountry is hard work. Eamon said the chain rings also wear out faster than normal, and some have even bent from the torque produced.
“Peter Lougheed Provincial Park just got some for use on the High Rockies Trail. That trail is 78 km long,"
flag mjc1973
Posted: Nov 28, 2017 at 22:28 Quote
XCMark wrote:
mjc1973 wrote:
arrowheadrush wrote:


Its great that you are enjoying it and i don't have anything against them, but i believe e-bikes are not allowed on Kananaskis trails (West Bragg Creek) as it is strictly a non-motorized area.


Hey again - and this from the Federal Govnt who clearly states pedal assist bikes are Power Assist Bicycles and not motorized.

"power-assisted bicycle means a vehicle that:

(a) has steering handlebars and is equipped with pedals,

(b) is designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground,

(c) is capable of being propelled by muscular power,

(d) has one or more electric motors that have, singly or in combination, the following characteristics:

(i) it has a total continuous power output rating, measured at the shaft of each motor, of 500 W or less,

(ii) if it is engaged by the use of muscular power, power assistance immediately ceases when the muscular power ceases,

(iii) if it is engaged by the use of an accelerator controller, power assistance immediately ceases when the brakes are applied, and

(iv) it is incapable of providing further assistance when the bicycle attains a speed of 32 km/h on level ground,

(e) bears a label that is permanently affixed by the manufacturer and appears in a conspicuous location stating, in both official languages, that the vehicle is a power-assisted bicycle as defined in this subsection, and

(f) has one of the following safety features,

(i) an enabling mechanism to turn the electric motor on and off that is separate from the accelerator controller and fitted in such a manner that it is operable by the driver, or

(ii) a mechanism that prevents the motor from being engaged before the bicycle attains a speed of 3 km/h; (bicyclette assistée)"

Happy riding!!
What is the code on that statute?

"Its all right here....
http://lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/C.R.C.%2C_c._1038/FullText.html
flag Alexmtb12
Posted: Dec 1, 2017 at 9:23 Quote
saw one out at my local trails, dude was towing those little trailers for bikes with tools, so the way i see it, using it to tow to repair or dig new trails isnt a bad thing

 


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