All Things Meta 29er!

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All Things Meta 29er!
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Posted: Jan 19, 2022 at 0:58 Quote
Gene158 wrote:
Will commencal be discontinuing the meta AM 29? I see that they have the new meta sx but they don't list any '22 versions of the meta AM 29.

I confirmed with Commencal USA that the Meta SX is replacing the Meta AM. So once they sell out, no more Meta AM in 2022. I wonder what bike they are working on cough (high pivot) cough. So yeah, I can't wait to try my Meta SX cough (Google 2018 Commencal Supreme SX) cough to see how it compares to my 2021 Meta AM. I hope it rips cough (2023 Supreme SX) cough like my Meta AM. You didn't hear it from me lol.

Posted: Jan 19, 2022 at 1:09 Quote
Muscovir wrote:
ryan198232 wrote:
Upduro wrote:
I asked their customer service if there will be a new am29 at some point, but they say for now the SX is the new one. I think they’re still making the am29, but just with the current geometry.

I’d like to try out the mullet bike but am sure there are just as many people that would prefer the am29 to the sx no? Gotta admit, im tempted to buy the wrp link to try out the 27.5 out back but am so happy with how this bike rides as a full 29er that I’ll prob leave it as is.

I definitley prefer full 29er. It sucks that the Supreme DH is only available as a mullet now and you don't even have the option anymore to run it as a full 29er. Like, why not leave that choice to the rider? Most other brands have at least managed to include a flip chip so that the rider can choose what they want...

At this point I've read and watched pretty much every "29er vs. Mullet"-test from every magazine under the sun and they basically all conclude that the mullet only makes sense if you are too small to run a full 29er. In no article did the testers conclude that they generally prefer a mullet setup over a 29er. It just doesn't seem to make any sense to push the mixed wheel concept as hard as Commencal does.

I hope Commencal will not do the same thing to the Meta and cancel the AM 29 in favor of the SX.


GMBN did one and he was 2 seconds slower on the full 29er. Now he only rides mullet. I think it has more to do with rider hight and what type of terrain you ride.

Taller people will be better off with full 29er. Shorter people will be better on the mullet because it gives them more freedom to move around on the bike. Being able to get further back on the bike.

Posted: Jan 19, 2022 at 6:04 Quote
chize wrote:
Henrique2000 wrote:
Hi guys! I would like to know if the 2019 and 2020 commencal meta 29 size large have the same reach/wheelbase or if they made any changes. In some websites they say it´s the same but in others claim that it´s bigger... If anyone knows this, please let me know.
Cheers
The difference you are seeing is probably because you are looking at some models with a 150mm fork and some with a 160mm fork. The taller fork would slightly reduce reach and slightly increase wheelbase. There weren't any changes to frame geo from MY2019 to MY2020

I don´t think that´s the issue. Because all metas come with a 170mm fork. But thanks for charing Smile

Posted: Jan 19, 2022 at 6:07 Quote
Brasher wrote:
in 2020 the sizes all grew about 8mm in reach I think.

my Large was a 468mm reach, up from 460 the year before. Chainstay, head angle and seat tube stayed the same.

Nice. Thank you!!
So you had a 2019 and a 2020 Meta and noticed any diferences?!

Posted: Jan 19, 2022 at 6:31 Quote
MTB-Ohana wrote:
Gene158 wrote:
Will commencal be discontinuing the meta AM 29? I see that they have the new meta sx but they don't list any '22 versions of the meta AM 29.

I confirmed with Commencal USA that the Meta SX is replacing the Meta AM. So once they sell out, no more Meta AM in 2022. I wonder what bike they are working on cough (high pivot) cough. So yeah, I can't wait to try my Meta SX cough (Google 2018 Commencal Supreme SX) cough to see how it compares to my 2021 Meta AM. I hope it rips cough (2023 Supreme SX) cough like my Meta AM. You didn't hear it from me lol.

I think it would be foolish of them to not have a full 29er enduro bike so hopefully they have something in the works for that. I've never ridden a mullet but I don't really feel like I need to. I love 29 front and rear.

Posted: Jan 19, 2022 at 8:23 Quote
Henrique2000 wrote:
chize wrote:
Henrique2000 wrote:
Hi guys! I would like to know if the 2019 and 2020 commencal meta 29 size large have the same reach/wheelbase or if they made any changes. In some websites they say it´s the same but in others claim that it´s bigger... If anyone knows this, please let me know.
Cheers
The difference you are seeing is probably because you are looking at some models with a 150mm fork and some with a 160mm fork. The taller fork would slightly reduce reach and slightly increase wheelbase. There weren't any changes to frame geo from MY2019 to MY2020

I don´t think that´s the issue. Because all metas come with a 170mm fork. But thanks for charing Smile
Ah I thought you were asking about the meta TR

Posted: Jan 19, 2022 at 13:32 Quote
MTB-Ohana wrote:
My 2022 Meta SX has arrived. I can't wait to see how it compares to my 2021 Meta AM.

https://www.reddit.com/r/commencal/comments/s6ojcn/2022_meta_sx_high_polished_has_finally_arrived/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Hi, how tall are you and what size frame did you take? I’m very interested in your feedback!

Posted: Jan 19, 2022 at 14:55 Quote
Henrique2000 wrote:
Brasher wrote:
in 2020 the sizes all grew about 8mm in reach I think.

my Large was a 468mm reach, up from 460 the year before. Chainstay, head angle and seat tube stayed the same.

Nice. Thank you!!
So you had a 2019 and a 2020 Meta and noticed any diferences?!

I had a 2020, it was an awesome bike and did everything I asked of it. They are well built and have fantastic rear suspension.

Posted: Jan 20, 2022 at 2:06 Quote
Vespasien wrote:
MTB-Ohana wrote:
My 2022 Meta SX has arrived. I can't wait to see how it compares to my 2021 Meta AM.

https://www.reddit.com/r/commencal/comments/s6ojcn/2022_meta_sx_high_polished_has_finally_arrived/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Hi, how tall are you and what size frame did you take? I’m very interested in your feedback!

I'm 5'9" with a 32 1/2 inch inseam. I ordered a medium frame. My 2021 Meta AM is also a size medium and fits perfectly.

Posted: Jan 20, 2022 at 2:14 Quote
You could have stretch out a bit and went with Large so that we can get a review of the size we are actually interested in Wink

Posted: Jan 20, 2022 at 3:37 Quote
Brasher wrote:
Henrique2000 wrote:
Brasher wrote:
in 2020 the sizes all grew about 8mm in reach I think.

my Large was a 468mm reach, up from 460 the year before. Chainstay, head angle and seat tube stayed the same.

Nice. Thank you!!
So you had a 2019 and a 2020 Meta and noticed any diferences?!

I had a 2020, it was an awesome bike and did everything I asked of it. They are well built and have fantastic rear suspension.

Yes, I know that. I have a 2019 model and it´s awesome. Love it
But would appreciate it a bit more if it was longer. I´ve been searching around and I´ll probably buy one of those reach adjustments headset. I think that will do the job Smile

Posted: Jan 20, 2022 at 7:59 Quote
MTB-Ohana wrote:
Gene158 wrote:
Will commencal be discontinuing the meta AM 29? I see that they have the new meta sx but they don't list any '22 versions of the meta AM 29.

I confirmed with Commencal USA that the Meta SX is replacing the Meta AM. So once they sell out, no more Meta AM in 2022. I wonder what bike they are working on cough (high pivot) cough. So yeah, I can't wait to try my Meta SX cough (Google 2018 Commencal Supreme SX) cough to see how it compares to my 2021 Meta AM. I hope it rips cough (2023 Supreme SX) cough like my Meta AM. You didn't hear it from me lol.

Now I'm glad to have bought my Meta AM before they discontinued it. I'm neiter stoked on mullets nor on high pivots. Have tried both and they both arent for me.

Posted: Jan 20, 2022 at 8:28 Quote
I am a smaller guy, 5’8” . Tried a mullet setup on my ‘21 meta Am29. Used the Williams racing link. Didn’t really think it was any major advantage in the least. The full 29’r setup seems smoother, easier to carry speed etc… yes, you can get over the back a “little” better but it wasn’t mind blowing or really substantial enough to me. Went back to full 29’r setup and haven’t given it a second thought.

Posted: Jan 20, 2022 at 8:41 Quote
Henrique2000 wrote:
chize wrote:
Henrique2000 wrote:
Hi guys! I would like to know if the 2019 and 2020 commencal meta 29 size large have the same reach/wheelbase or if they made any changes. In some websites they say it´s the same but in others claim that it´s bigger... If anyone knows this, please let me know.
Cheers
The difference you are seeing is probably because you are looking at some models with a 150mm fork and some with a 160mm fork. The taller fork would slightly reduce reach and slightly increase wheelbase. There weren't any changes to frame geo from MY2019 to MY2020

I don´t think that´s the issue. Because all metas come with a 170mm fork. But thanks for charing Smile


I thought the issue with mullet bikes is that people have to keep their weight more forward to help with front wheel traction? Full 29er puts the rider a bit further back to keep the same front wheel traction?


 
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