2019 Stumpjumper Evo

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2019 Stumpjumper Evo
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Posted: Oct 8, 2019 at 14:07 Quote
canaleta wrote:
Brasher wrote:
Ok I think I'm in love with this bike lol.

Thing is this bike is making my mega dollar S-works demo more or less redundant. I'm actually bettering some of my PB's on more flowy downhill runs. I put the cane creek IL coil on with 57mm stroke bringing rear travel to 160mm, combined that with a 160mm air shaft in the fork. The thing is a rocket ship!

I am not a fan of the NX drivetrain however, no matter how much lower limit screw adjustment I try, the chain falls off a lot when in top gear. Possibly the chain is too long but all checks out ok I believe.

If you are reading this and are undecided to get this bike or not... DO IT!



Hi,
I recently bought an evo 29, and I know that removing the rear shock spacer convert the shock from 50mm stroke to 55mm stroke. You said that you have fitted a shock with 57mm stroke, is this possible? Is enough clearance? Does exist a 210x57 shock?
Thank you

Yes it works, the 210x57 is actually a 210x55 cane creek coil with the 2mm nylon spacer below the bump stop removed. There is still no clearance issues at 210x57 with 2.5WT tyres.

Posted: Oct 8, 2019 at 16:51 Quote
Brasher wrote:
canaleta wrote:
Brasher wrote:
Ok I think I'm in love with this bike lol.

Thing is this bike is making my mega dollar S-works demo more or less redundant. I'm actually bettering some of my PB's on more flowy downhill runs. I put the cane creek IL coil on with 57mm stroke bringing rear travel to 160mm, combined that with a 160mm air shaft in the fork. The thing is a rocket ship!

I am not a fan of the NX drivetrain however, no matter how much lower limit screw adjustment I try, the chain falls off a lot when in top gear. Possibly the chain is too long but all checks out ok I believe.

If you are reading this and are undecided to get this bike or not... DO IT!



Hi,
I recently bought an evo 29, and I know that removing the rear shock spacer convert the shock from 50mm stroke to 55mm stroke. You said that you have fitted a shock with 57mm stroke, is this possible? Is enough clearance? Does exist a 210x57 shock?
Thank you

Yes it works, the 210x57 is actually a 210x55 cane creek coil with the 2mm nylon spacer below the bump stop removed. There is still no clearance issues at 210x57 with 2.5WT tyres.


Sounds interesting! So a 210x50 can be converted to a 210x55, and a 210x55 to a 210x57 all two cases removing the spacer. I suppose from a stock dpX2 210x50 is not possible to 210x57. Is it right?

Posted: Oct 8, 2019 at 18:38 Quote
canaleta wrote:
Brasher wrote:
canaleta wrote:




Hi,
I recently bought an evo 29, and I know that removing the rear shock spacer convert the shock from 50mm stroke to 55mm stroke. You said that you have fitted a shock with 57mm stroke, is this possible? Is enough clearance? Does exist a 210x57 shock?
Thank you

Yes it works, the 210x57 is actually a 210x55 cane creek coil with the 2mm nylon spacer below the bump stop removed. There is still no clearance issues at 210x57 with 2.5WT tyres.


Sounds interesting! So a 210x50 can be converted to a 210x55, and a 210x55 to a 210x57 all two cases removing the spacer. I suppose from a stock dpX2 210x50 is not possible to 210x57. Is it right?

That's correct, Dpx2 metric will only go from 50 to 55mm stroke.

Only reason you get 57mm stroke from a cane creek is they actually take a 216 x 57 shock and change the eye to eye length to metric and keep the stroke as imperial with a spacer to convert it to metric. Cost cutting exercise that works to our advantage. Smile

Posted: Oct 19, 2019 at 7:20 Quote
Finally got a ride on my S3 27.5 with the Avalanche tuned Marzocchi Cr. It works great! Very composed and planted but still poppy enough to make it fun jumping. As with all shocks and forks that Avy has done for me, they feel stiff and feel like they will be overdamped until you hit the trail. Then they become awesome. I think it shows how underdamped most stock shocks are. You end up having tp put too much air or too stiff of a spring on. I’m 195 or so with gear on and Craig put a 600 lb spring on.

The bigger question is Marzocchi vs Ext Storia. Andrew at Brennan who is the US service provider told me I would probably need to put in a lighter compression tune when I took this off my 29er and put it on the 27.5. So this comparison is without the revalve from Andrew. As it sits currently I like the feel of the Marzocchi better. The pluses of the EXT are it is lighter and has a climb switch if those things are important to you. It also has high and low speed compression clickers. The Marzocchi only has one rebound and compression clicker. So far I haven’t needed a climb switch on the Marzocchi and am able to get very good performance with the single clickers. But I’m not concerned with how long it takes to get up a climb. I just pick an easy gear and cruise up the climbs. The Marzocchi is also a couple hundred bucks cheaper with shock and the full works from Avalanche.

When I get the revalved EXT I’ll do a final comparison.

Posted: Oct 30, 2019 at 23:18 Quote
Hey guys! I’m just a hair under 5’8 with a inseam of 33” and wanting to get the 29er, would I be better off on a s3 or s2, cheers!

Posted: Oct 31, 2019 at 3:07 Quote
IMO the S2 would be the go to at your height.

Posted: Nov 3, 2019 at 9:05 Quote
I really want to put an air shock on my Carbon S3 29 and would like to stick with fox.

I test rode the alloy with the dpx and it was really fun and poppy

What’s the deal, will an x2 fit?

Posted: Nov 3, 2019 at 13:04 Quote
jasonwd wrote:
I really want to put an air shock on my Carbon S3 29 and would like to stick with fox.

I test rode the alloy with the dpx and it was really fun and poppy

What’s the deal, will an x2 fit?

Yep, barely though.

The older can fits better (2018 and prior) the 250psi max ones. 19 the can is slightly wider.

Big air can shocks work best with this bike IMO. They need that added ramp up in the end stroke due to the linear design.

Posted: Nov 3, 2019 at 13:12 Quote
Brasher wrote:
Big air can shocks work best with this bike IMO. They need that added ramp up in the end stroke due to the linear design.

I agree Specialized bikes, prior to the new Enduro, are quite linear and benefit from ramp-up in the air spring.

Small air cans usually have greater ramp-up, though.

Posted: Nov 3, 2019 at 15:26 Quote
R-M-R wrote:
Brasher wrote:
Big air can shocks work best with this bike IMO. They need that added ramp up in the end stroke due to the linear design.

I agree Specialized bikes, prior to the new Enduro, are quite linear and benefit from ramp-up in the air spring.

Small air cans usually have greater ramp-up, though.

Correct but miss the small bump sensitivity that the bigger cans create. Bigger air can is the best of both worlds finding that goldilocks combo of spacers without the spike in midstroke.

Posted: Nov 3, 2019 at 15:33 Quote
Small-bump sensitivity is a product of the negative spring. It's entirely possible for a large can to have a too-small negative chamber and a small can may have a generous volume.

Examples: The old Monarch with the HV can still had a tiny negative spring and was harsh off the top. The new MegNeg can is large, but not huge, and it has the largest negative spring among current air shocks.

Posted: Nov 5, 2019 at 7:04 Quote
decided to go with SJ evo alloy comp, but still can't decide if I want or 29( Both options available in S2 for order. I want to learn more jumps (easier on 27) but participate in local enduro events (I think it's easier on 29 and local winners are usually on 29ers, but they are typically great bikers)

What do you think?

Posted: Nov 5, 2019 at 7:15 Quote
I personally would not buy a 27.5 bike, the resale value in the future would be a reason enough

Posted: Nov 5, 2019 at 7:37 Quote
• Resale is always so poor on bikes that I don't recommend giving it much consideration in your selection.
• The 29er is the better choice if speed is your priority.
• I don't feel 27 is significantly better for learning to jump.
Here's a relevant discussion of wheel sizes and speed from one of my favourite bike designers.

Posted: Nov 5, 2019 at 8:32 Quote
After a month on alloy S3 29" I would say - go for 29"! I've been on a 27,5" for 4 years prior and after a first day I was impressed by the way the 29" smooths the trails. No lost for joy of jumping at all. Grip in cornering better also.

I've put DVO Topaz3 with 2 spacers in a positive chamber. No bottom outs at all. I love how the bike climbs but must use the climb switch.

Properly set Fox Rhythm by the guys from the Fox Factory Team in Finale Ligure during Trophy of Nations (many thanks to them!!! ) is a way better than a RSPike with the Luftkappe installed.

Overall the bike for me is a killer now! Sometimes when the terrain is harsh I feel like I run over a plush and soft carpet. But you must have a warp speed to let the suspension work that way. Wink

But I am disappointed with the CodeR brakes from Sram. They are not so good as Shimano XT as I used to have.

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