Is Giant bringing back the Faith?

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Is Giant bringing back the Faith?
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Posted: Aug 12, 2019 at 11:24 Quote
With the 2020 Reign dropping rear travel to 146mm and and moving to 29" wheels, there seems to be a gap in Giant's lineup.

Currently, they have nothing between 146mm and 200mm of travel in their downhill oriented range. Back in the day, the Giant Faith took the long travel mountain / freeride bike category while the Reign occupied the lower travel option......until the Reign X came out and started to blur the line between the two.

It seems to me that long travel Enduro offerings are only becoming more popular as time goes on, and some manufacturers, such as Scott, are offering long travel 29er's as their flagship enduro machines.

So is Giant setting themselves up to relaunch the Faith as a modern freeride/Long travel Enduro?

Posted: Aug 14, 2019 at 12:50 Quote
They will still offer the 27.5 reign with 160mm travel. As far as longer travel 29'er options, I sort of doubt there will be anything larger than the Reign 29.

Posted: Aug 14, 2019 at 13:22 Quote
bharwood86 wrote:
They will still offer the 27.5 reign with 160mm travel. As far as longer travel 29'er options, I sort of doubt there will be anything larger than the Reign 29.

Was there an article about keeping the 27.5 version? I haven't seen anything about a 27.5 2020 model.

Posted: Aug 14, 2019 at 13:48 Quote
They also have a 115mm 'all mountain' trance in 29er and that's it for 29ers aside from xc.. Giants catalog is as full of holes as swiss cheese.

Posted: Aug 15, 2019 at 1:38 Quote
Giant Reign SX, 2020 model: https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/reign-sx-2020

180mm up front, 160mm out back. Do they really need a freeride bike?

Posted: Aug 15, 2019 at 7:10 Quote
mooboyj wrote:
Giant Reign SX, 2020 model: https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/reign-sx-2020

180mm up front, 160mm out back. Do they really need a freeride bike?

Just the previous gen bike with a 180mm fork slapped on it. Possibly the worst seat tube angle on any modern bike.

Posted: Aug 15, 2019 at 8:25 Quote
Hmmm the 2020 SX 27.5 model isnt on the Canadian website. The US has one though but a 180mm fork up from with 160 in the rear and a DH drivetrain is (in my opinion) dumb. You cant climb with it and you can't keep up with the big rigs.... and you can buy a dedicated DH/park bike for the same price from other brands. I think Giant missed the boat on this one.

Posted: Aug 16, 2019 at 10:03 Quote
gnarnaimo wrote:
mooboyj wrote:
Giant Reign SX, 2020 model: https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/reign-sx-2020

180mm up front, 160mm out back. Do they really need a freeride bike?

Just the previous gen bike with a 180mm fork slapped on it. Possibly the worst seat tube angle on any modern bike.

The new reign 29 sx comes with 150 rear - 170 front.

Posted: Aug 16, 2019 at 13:38 Quote
phops wrote:
gnarnaimo wrote:
mooboyj wrote:
Giant Reign SX, 2020 model: https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/reign-sx-2020

180mm up front, 160mm out back. Do they really need a freeride bike?

Just the previous gen bike with a 180mm fork slapped on it. Possibly the worst seat tube angle on any modern bike.

The new reign 29 sx comes with 150 rear - 170 front.

I was replying to the link he posted. I believe it is actually 146mm rear 170mm front. Which is sort of a let down for a 'freeride'/park use trail bike. Should be at least 160mm rear IMO

Posted: Aug 16, 2019 at 20:08 Quote
gnarnaimo wrote:
mooboyj wrote:
Giant Reign SX, 2020 model: https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/reign-sx-2020

180mm up front, 160mm out back. Do they really need a freeride bike?

Just the previous gen bike with a 180mm fork slapped on it. Possibly the worst seat tube angle on any modern bike.

Do freeride bikes need to be super pedally?

Posted: Aug 16, 2019 at 21:55 Quote
mooboyj wrote:
gnarnaimo wrote:
mooboyj wrote:
Giant Reign SX, 2020 model: https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/reign-sx-2020

180mm up front, 160mm out back. Do they really need a freeride bike?

Just the previous gen bike with a 180mm fork slapped on it. Possibly the worst seat tube angle on any modern bike.

Do freeride bikes need to be super pedally?

If they want to compete with other 'freeride' bikes yes, as most of them are designed to pedal well for what they are.
I'de like to enjoy the times I'm seated pedalling to my destination. I mean, why bother putting a dropper on, why not just buy a full on dh rig if seated pedalling doesn't matter to you?

Posted: Aug 19, 2019 at 20:08 Quote
gnarnaimo wrote:
mooboyj wrote:
gnarnaimo wrote:


Just the previous gen bike with a 180mm fork slapped on it. Possibly the worst seat tube angle on any modern bike.

Do freeride bikes need to be super pedally?

If they want to compete with other 'freeride' bikes yes, as most of them are designed to pedal well for what they are.
I'de like to enjoy the times I'm seated pedalling to my destination. I mean, why bother putting a dropper on, why not just buy a full on dh rig if seated pedalling doesn't matter to you?

Would this do the job: https://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/bikes-reign-sx-29-2020

Posted: Aug 19, 2019 at 21:12 Quote
gnarnaimo wrote:
I was replying to the link he posted. I believe it is actually 146mm rear 170mm front. Which is sort of a let down for a 'freeride'/park use trail bike. Should be at least 160mm rear IMO

Posted: Aug 20, 2019 at 3:59 Quote
Maestroman87 wrote:
Hmmm the 2020 SX 27.5 model isnt on the Canadian website. The US has one though but a 180mm fork up from with 160 in the rear and a DH drivetrain is (in my opinion) dumb. You cant climb with it and you can't keep up with the big rigs.... and you can buy a dedicated DH/park bike for the same price from other brands. I think Giant missed the boat on this one.

Also no Dropper post, dumbest bike Giant have had in their line up for a long time...

Prices are going up and Spec is going down, bang for buck Giants are becoming a thing of the past.

Posted: Aug 23, 2019 at 14:28 Quote
Did Giant lose some key designers/product managers from their MTB division or something? They were such awesome design with good geo back in 2014-2016 and sold sooo many bikes, at least here in Canada. They've stagnated and have such a weird product stack now.

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