New SID SL Ultimate 2021....Bushings play is it possible?

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New SID SL Ultimate 2021....Bushings play is it possible?
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Posted: May 19, 2020 at 2:02 Quote
Hello!
I have recently purchased the new 2021 SID SL Ultimate forks and I immediately noticed a "play" came from the bushings.
I state that It is not the headset, not the brake pads or the front hub.
The fork is new and the feeling of "loosen headset" it's only when the bike is stopped, instead when I ride I don't feel nothing wrong.
I know that there must be a minimum of play to lubricate the stanchions, but the doubt came to me because this play is greater than my previous forks (pike and lyric).
I know it is difficult to give an opinion without seeing it, but what do you think about it?
Someone else has had similar experiences with SID?
thanks

Posted: Jul 12, 2020 at 7:36 Quote
Hey, I have the same issues and I suspect it to be the bushings, too. Habe you gitten any feedback from Rock Shox yet?

Side Note: I have the Sid Ultimate 120. Heres what I found in a review:

Quote:
While the SID’s DebonAir spring uses the same grey volume spacers as Pike, the pressure-equalising, air piston bypass ‘dimple’ has been reshaped and moved so it works at top-out, not 1cm into the stroke.

So with the bypass sitting sitting so high, maybe the lose feel comes from this?

Posted: Jul 13, 2020 at 3:18 Quote
MindPatterns wrote:
Hey, I have the same issues and I suspect it to be the bushings, too. Habe you gitten any feedback from Rock Shox yet?

Side Note: I have the Sid Ultimate 120. Heres what I found in a review:

Quote:
While the SID’s DebonAir spring uses the same grey volume spacers as Pike, the pressure-equalising, air piston bypass ‘dimple’ has been reshaped and moved so it works at top-out, not 1cm into the stroke.

So with the bypass sitting sitting so high, maybe the lose feel comes from this?

Hello.
I sent the fork to SRAM and they confirmed the problem of my fork with the bushings.
Now It's a month that SRAM are waiting for the lower legs replacement because they do not have spare parts for the new SID!
My fork had this problem from factory, even before mounting it...

Posted: Jul 13, 2020 at 5:25 Quote
All right, thanks for your reply. I brought the fork back to my local bike shop. I'll keep you posted.

Posted: Sep 8, 2020 at 13:36 Quote
MindPatterns wrote:
All right, thanks for your reply. I brought the fork back to my local bike shop. I'll keep you posted.

Any update?

Posted: Sep 10, 2020 at 6:38 Quote
Yeah, the fork was sent to RS and it took 2 weeks to get it back. The bushings are way more tight, no knocking anymore what previously felt like the fork was broken out of the box. I'm not too sure, but I asume they completely changed the lowers.

Posted: Sep 12, 2020 at 13:52 Quote
MindPatterns wrote:
Yeah, the fork was sent to RS and it took 2 weeks to get it back. The bushings are way more tight, no knocking anymore what previously felt like the fork was broken out of the box. I'm not too sure, but I asume they completely changed the lowers.
Thanks, some reported that even the RS warranty didnt resolve the issue, nice to hear that there's a fix apparently

Posted: Dec 23, 2020 at 12:08 Quote
I have the same problem too.

The fork is a RockShox SID Ultimate 29 120mm bought from Bike24 (Germany) in July 20.

I initially noticed the bushing knocking & then a couple of days ago, if I lift the front wheel off the ground there is a little play in the fork when the wheel makes contact with the ground. Just like a loose headset but its coming from the fork.

I've contacted Bike24 & they told me to turn the fork upside down to lube the bushings & if it doesn't fix it return them to Germany, which isn't ideal as I'm in the UK.

Posted: Mar 18, 2021 at 21:24 Quote
My Sid ultimate C1 120mm arrived today, super happy with the looks, weight ect, then once installed, without even riding it I could feel excessive play. It’s not the headset, not the axle, it appears to be the fork lowers. Good grief, I hope they have a fix that won’t take too long. I’m inCanada, shipping anything anywhere is brutally slow these days. My LBS were I bought them from should have some pull to get a fix quick... there’s no point in sending new ones. My guess is they’ll do it too.

Posted: Nov 14, 2021 at 15:50 Quote
Sorry for the bump, just bought a 2022 Trek Top Fuel 8 that came with a SID, DebonAir spring, Rush RL damper

I have the same issue except it isn't always present.. but yeah when it's there feels just like a loose headset. I actually took my whole headset apart thinking something was bottoming out and not getting tight before realizing that sadly is must be the fork.

Can any of you provide updates on your situation now?

As mine doesn't seem to be as bad as yours would there be any hard in just riding it like this?

edit: ok I don't know a ton about suspension but I think this issue could be related to uneven positive and negative pressure. Any time I let all the air out of my fork and then pump it up again (was adding a volume spacer) I get this play in the fork. The only thing that makes it go away is flipping the bike upside down, standing on the bars and pulling up on the lowers a few times. You'll hear this kind of belching sound. I flip the bike back over and all the play is gone. Went for a ride and it seemed to stay this way.

The weird thing is the bike had to be upside down, I first tried just sitting on the tire and pulling up on the uppers and that did nothing.

Anyone know what could be going on?

Posted: Nov 15, 2021 at 4:59 Quote
Back in June ‘21, after 2 months since my Unused sid ultimates were sent back to the cdn Sram distributor/repair centre, they were unable to source new bushings, and determined they were unfixable until parts were made available. I actually got a credit for full amount at LBS, and they were able to get in the ‘22 Fox 34 Factory. I couldn’t be happier with the Fox. I really liked the Sid’s, but C’mon this type of error in manufacturing/engineering shouldn’t be happening these days. Maybe by now (it’s been 6 months) they have the ability to fix, but back in the soring they couldn’t. No Bushing play in the Fox’s!

Posted: Nov 15, 2021 at 7:29 Quote
Thanks for the response rcr211, glad they got you sorted and it all worked out in the end Smile

Would you happen to remember the production date of your SID? Mine is from the beginning of June 2021.

I read in the MTBR thread that RS was going to be addressing this issue in the newer production runs. I wonder if I have a newer one and they didn't completely resolve the issue but made it a lot better?

Like I said above the play in mine only seems to appear when I significantly change the air pressure in the fork and it seems to completely go away again after I do the little trick I mentioned in my prior post.

Unfortunately we just got snow here so I won't really be able to test the bike out for the next 5 months or so...
If it stays like this I have no problem with it but I would hate for this to develop into a bigger issue after I do some real riding on it in the spring.

I guess I could either keep it and see if it gets worse next season or send it back to RS over the winter but if I already have one of the newer production runs I might just get the exact same lowers or bushings sent back to me

Posted: Dec 3, 2021 at 17:17 Quote
Oh boy - I just bought (Dec 2021) a 2021 Trek Top Fuel 9.8 and I think I have this problem too. Feels like my headset is loose but it's not. Gonna wait for a cold spell and bring it into the shop and see if they can get it fixed... or if they want to try something else.

Pink Bike mentions the bushing play in their review of the Trek Top Fuel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGrBIsLOYW4

Why does crap like this always happen to me???????

Posted: Jan 5, 2022 at 7:17 Quote
Ok, just to chip in.
My 14 month old Canyon Exceed CF7 has a SID SL Select, and my bushings have play in them as well.

The shop that did the lower leg service for me saw several of these issues with this series of forks. Apparently SRAM now fixes it under warranty. The shop has just filed the warranty claim on my behalf, so not sure how this will unfold.

Posted: Feb 13, 2022 at 1:11 Quote
bas-r wrote:
Ok, just to chip in.
My 14 month old Canyon Exceed CF7 has a SID SL Select, and my bushings have play in them as well.

The shop that did the lower leg service for me saw several of these issues with this series of forks. Apparently SRAM now fixes it under warranty. The shop has just filed the warranty claim on my behalf, so not sure how this will unfold.

Just to add to this. Rockshox replaced the whole lower legs and internals, which was done in a week, at no cost. The fork works like a charm now. I now have upgraded lower legs, shiny instead of matte, and with ‘Sid Ultimate’ stickering.
Impressed with the speed and service.

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