Advice onSteel hardtail frame under $1000

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eragot

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Posted: Oct 24, 2020 at 6:51	Quote
I'm looking to build up a steel hardtail. I'm looking for something more trail / enduro idea. Something similar to the ridiculous but more reasonably priced. The preferences to get it about $600 but I know there are others that look to be relatively good perhaps fun as well. most importantly I'm trying to figure out ones that I could get sooner than later. Thanks for the help..

Olistev

Posted: Oct 24, 2020 at 13:31

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eragot wrote:

I'm looking to build up a steel hardtail. I'm looking for something more trail / enduro idea. Something similar to the ridiculous but more reasonably priced. The preferences to get it about $600 but I know there are others that look to be relatively good perhaps fun as well.

most importantly I'm trying to figure out ones that I could get sooner than later. Thanks for the help..

Ragley, a British bring have some awesome looking steel hard tails for good prices, but I don’t know if they are available in the US. Orange p7 is also an option but you might have the same aforementioned issue! Chromag look like they also have some stuff worth looking at!!

commental

Posted: Oct 24, 2020 at 13:57

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Olistev wrote:

eragot wrote:

On One, Cotic, Production Privee, Norco, Kona, Nordest. Not sure on wait times and prices in the US, but all worth a look.

eragot

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Posted: Oct 24, 2020 at 14:14	Quote
Some new names in there. I'll take a look. Keep the ideas coming - thanks.

ridingrascal

Posted: Oct 24, 2020 at 18:04	Quote
Doesn’t Marino make custom ones for around $500? I think they’re back ordered till March or something like that.

gotohe11carolina

Posted: Oct 24, 2020 at 20:19	Quote
I picked up my pipedream moxie for around 750$.

legrandzebre

Posted: Oct 24, 2020 at 23:47	Quote
On one big dog or hello dave (in stock now). Ragley or production privee are great but you can wait a lobg time. In france you can have the sobre off. Great frame too.

legrandzebre

Posted: Oct 24, 2020 at 23:49	Quote
Stanton or cotic for premium frames.

commental

Posted: Oct 25, 2020 at 1:25	Quote
People are talking about waiting over a year for Marino.

ridingrascal

Posted: Oct 25, 2020 at 5:19

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commental wrote:

People are talking about waiting over a year for Marino.

Yikes

Superfli

Posted: Oct 25, 2020 at 5:35

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The Pipedream Moxie has caught my eye. Lovely looking frame with really modern geo - extremely long+slack! I currently own a 2018 Orange P7 29, which is awesome. It does everything - XC, long endurance rides as well as Enduro races and bike parks. But, I have an inkling to try one of these super slack bikes!
Pole Taival
Pipedream Moxie
Kona Honzo ESD

But I still want to be able to use the bike for all day adventures. Maybe I'll end up getting the newer P7 which is slacker +longer.

gotohe11carolina

Posted: Oct 25, 2020 at 6:02

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I’m 5 months in on a Marino wait. They do batch orders for specific countries. So the wait times apparently vary. There’s a fair breadth of experience with Marino over on the Steel is real thread.
I have a Pipedream Moxie v1. It’s the only bike in my house that is safe from being horse traded at this point. The only thing that will make me get rid of it is a newer moxie that has the slightly wider chain stays. My 29x2.4 bontrager buzzes occasionally when I’m full on the power. I’m riding it single speed and under forked by 10mm. I have no complaints about the geo. I think it’s just the right amount of slack and very comfy for long single speed rides for me.
I have one single complaint about the frame and that’s the exit of the dropper post is awkward and a little high which has just enough binding to upset my POS crank bros high line dropper. I’m sure with less particular droppers it would be just fine.

soloknight6

Posted: Oct 25, 2020 at 8:20	Quote
Get a Chromag.

zsandstrom

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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 at 10:11

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So, like, not to rain on the "steel is real" parade, but most of the steel hardtails I've spent time on (Honzo, Torrent, Rootdown) either ride more harshly than their aluminum counterpart, or don't have enough additional compliance to offset the extra 2-3 lbs in weight. Not that they're bad bikes; many are awesome. But....there are other options out there made of aluminum or carbon that are just as good--or better--and weigh/cost less.

Personal opinion, after having owned a fair number of hardtails, is that the Banshee Paradox V3 is the best out there. With a 150 fork it's a beast, with a 130 fork it's a trail ripper, and the machined dropouts and "flex joints" are f***ing MAGIC. It's easily the most comfortable hardtail I've been on, and it's a great price. Plus, Dirt Merchant bikes in the US has them on preorder right now with a 4 week (ish) wait.

https://www.dirtmerchantbicycles.com/collections/banshee-frames/products/banshee-paradox-v3-frame?variant=32035829252154

I'd pick it over any of the above bikes, and liked it more than both my aluminum and carbon Chameleon as well.

ninja edit: before anyone starts giving me shit about how steel would make a difference in more gnarly or rocky terrain, just know that here in southern Utah ledgy, sharp, square, and repeated big hits is kinda all we've got.

DHhack

Posted: Oct 25, 2020 at 13:18	Quote
I really like the geometry of my RSD Middlechild but I wish it was more compliant. It’s basically a overweight big wheel bmx on the feet.

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