$$$$ of bikes are going through the roof $$$$$

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$$$$ of bikes are going through the roof $$$$$
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Posted: Nov 21, 2020 at 2:03 Quote
Ok so I'm ranting

Bikes these days are improving, like computers the technology and improvements come nearly every day. However, the prices bike companies are charging is just ridiculous. I mean $12,000 for an ebike? Ok so its got some cool stuff but when a bike rivals the price of a decent used car and more than a nice new dirt bike, something's just not right. I dont care what they say, there's no way to justify charging that much for a freckin bike!

Yes, I like the nice new tech thats out there. But I'm just disappointed at the industry and how they've gone through the roof on their profits. I guess as long as folks out there are willing to drop that coin, the bike companies are going to profit.

ok ok nuff said....

Posted: Nov 21, 2020 at 2:14 Quote
I hear what your saying, but in all fairness for every bike that costs top dollar, there are plenty more bikes at a budget level that will do the job. In fact, I'm actually surprised at how many bikes are available at a reasonable price, particularly in the full suspension market. Polygon, Calibre, Marin, Giant, to name but a few, are all bringing bikes out that have the trickle down technology from the last few years, and we're not talking budget nastiness... we're talking serious bikes that can be upgraded or left as and still deliver to a rider of average abilities (which is in all honesty most of us). The technology in those expensive bikes will be seen on budget bikes in a few years, it's the way it always goes. I honestly believe there has never been a better choice for someone who wishes to take the sport seriously, but has a limited budget. It seems the new battle is for these more budget savvy consumers and I think we'll see that even more so in the coming years. And all that's without considering direct to consumer......

Posted: Nov 21, 2020 at 7:37 Quote
holytrails wrote:
Ok so I'm ranting

Bikes these days are improving, like computers the technology and improvements come nearly every day. However, the prices bike companies are charging is just ridiculous. I mean $12,000 for an ebike? Ok so its got some cool stuff but when a bike rivals the price of a decent used car and more than a nice new dirt bike, something's just not right. I dont care what they say, there's no way to justify charging that much for a freckin bike!

Yes, I like the nice new tech thats out there. But I'm just disappointed at the industry and how they've gone through the roof on their profits. I guess as long as folks out there are willing to drop that coin, the bike companies are going to profit.

ok ok nuff said....

The endless arguments against this on the FP are usually:

1) Cheap bikes are getting way better every year
2) Hedonic quality adjustment
3) A civic with 50k miles on it or a brand new, near bottom of the line moto aren't the same idea as the top-tier mountain bike.

Good new bikes with absolutely everything you'd want are still around 5k from a variety of manufacturers - adjustable suspension, carbon, high-end drivetrains, you can mix and match. Aluminum 3k bikes ride almost just as well as those; and there's even more options in the 2-3k range that are super solid...trance 29er with deore, some of the new vitus options, etc.

Posted: Nov 21, 2020 at 18:06 Quote
holytrails wrote:
Ok so I'm ranting

I mean $12,000 for an ebike? .

My new bike (on order) is over that...and no motor. We all have options. I do not hear folks complaining about the cost of diamond rings (a truly senseless purchase....for many). While I will NOT pay $6 for a cup of crappy coffee at Starschmucks...I have zero issue spending $600 for a single car tire or $3600 for a bike frame...it is all about priorities.

One of the guys I know who will complain the most about the cost of cycling...will, in general, complain while drinking some high-end scotch and smoking a cigar...at the country club....every market segment has it niche client base. Heck, I once paid $190 per foot for speaker cable...at it was not the "good stuff" (Kimber Kable).

Posted: Nov 21, 2020 at 18:19 Quote
What you forget is we enthusiasts are a pretty niche bunch, you can't be comparing a £12000 bicycle to a Ford Focus, as that's low end for a car, you're Santa Cruz Heckler or especially niche brands like, Antidote, Unno ect are equivalent to Paganis and Bugattis of the cycling world, they are pretty much the most expensive bicycles you can get this side of some stupid gold plated or diamond encrusted nonsense. In all honesty, if you buy the best in most other luxury items you will pay a lot more than £12'000.... Rolex, top highest spec Apple desktop, high end music gear, designer clothes and shoes sold in the thousands but still cost tens of thousands to buy and about £20 to make ect... Yes it is stupid money for a 'bicycle'... But so is a million quid for a watch.. considering there isn't much better that exists you can get than a Yeti or top spec Specialized ect we aren't getting as ripped off as we could be.

There is also inflation and things have increased a lot in cost over the years anyway... Cigarettes and a can of coke have doubled in price in less than 10 years, little Freddo chocolate bars I used to get for 5p as a kid 15 years ago are now 25p ect... Unfortunately although the cost of shit has gone up our wages haven't gone up by the same amount.

Besides no one has a gun to your head saying you need to pay the extra £100 to have Kashima on your dropper post, you can get a bicycle that offers 95% the performance of the cream of the crop for half the money. Those that pay more, myself included are paying for the extra luxury, but I'm not dumb and know as much as I love my Yeti, that I'll rip just as hard and have just as much fun on a Capra.

Posted: Nov 21, 2020 at 22:31 Quote
More shocking to me is the number of 3.000-3.500$/€ bikes that come with shitty components like sram SX. Even Giant who traditionally offers good VFM, currently prices their cheapest TranceX 29" at 2800€ with SX and RS35. Similarly for Commencal, who sells direct to customer.

It seems you have to spend north of 4500 to get a full suspension bike that doesn't need some upgrades immediately. A top spec e-bike costing 12.000 doesn't impress me as much.

Current global bike stock shortage doesn't help. I was quoted August delivery for a bike I was interested in.

Posted: Nov 22, 2020 at 3:50 Quote
justwan-naride wrote:

It seems you have to spend north of 4500 to get a full suspension bike that doesn't need some upgrades immediately..

I know, right? These first world problems are getting so difficult...

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Posted: Nov 23, 2020 at 16:42 Quote
Shit I guess you didn’t ride bikes in the 90’s. Especially adjusting for inflation you get sooooo much more for your dollar.

Posted: Nov 30, 2020 at 9:34 Quote
You just noticed the gauging? It's been going on the last few years and I don't see it slowing down any time soon. Getting close to time for me to refocus on my other hobbies.

For the dweeb out there: Just because I'm complaining about the price of something doesn't mean I can't afford it. I'm just not dumb with my $$$.

Posted: Dec 1, 2020 at 14:57 Quote
1stevenml wrote:
Shit I guess you didn’t ride bikes in the 90’s. Especially adjusting for inflation you get sooooo much more for your dollar.

In the '90's I had electronic shifting on road bikes....not cheap.

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Posted: Dec 1, 2020 at 23:39 Quote
The bikes are getting super expensive due to the massive amount of success of mountainbiking.
I remember when I bought my Commencal Meta back in 2015, the essential model was priced for 2.299€ back then. The same essential model now is 3.699€. That is a big increase in price over 5 years.

Posted: Dec 2, 2020 at 2:03 Quote
I’ve been riding mtb since 1991. I’ve seen the whole evolution of the industry from front shocks, v-brakes, discs, tubeless, droppers. It’s all about marketing with these companies and it obviously works because many of us reach in and plot down the $$$$$$.

Of course no one says we have to buy that $12,000 mtb. But it’s just disappointing when I see how these companies seemed to have taken advantage of the consumers; they price it at whatever because they know someone will pay it. Again to me there is no justification of prices that companies such as SC come up with. It’s not like that Heckler has any ground-breaking technology, material, or design.

Will the technology trickle down to more budget lines? Yeah. But that’s a different story.

Again I love our sport. But I’m not supporting the greed of some these companies at that $12,000 price point. Ridiculous!

Posted: Dec 2, 2020 at 3:35 Quote
holytrails wrote:

Again I love our sport. But I’m not supporting the greed of some these companies at that $12,000 price point. Ridiculous!

How exactly is charging a figure for an item that the market bears greed? Imagine what would be said if you posted that exact same thing on a Ferrari website, or, heck even a Corvette website.....no one is forcing you to purchase any bike, let alone a nice bike (or watch, or suit, or car, or home............)

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Posted: Dec 2, 2020 at 12:32 Quote
One major bonus I’m enjoying since starting mtb riding though despite the questionable cost of some cheap to manufacture components is the cost per ride compared to mx: You get to just grab your bike and go. No gas, oils, endless rear tyres, top end rebuilds every 10 hours of racing, plus all the stuff that constantly breaks. Granted I'm comparing casual riding vs racing and I'm sure racing mtb increases the costs but still.. its mostly grab and go after the initial outlay.

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Posted: Dec 2, 2020 at 13:29 Quote
Dont get an ebike then use your legs on a regular cheaper bike or go play tennis?

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