21’ Stumpjumper EVO thoughts

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21’ Stumpjumper EVO thoughts
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Posted: Oct 29, 2023 at 16:31 Quote
Ici01 wrote:
At my body weight it's 340psi for a sag of about 28. To what extent could I go down with the pressure if I used the largest volume spacer?

Anyway, thx guys

340 is too much. Start with your body weight (kitted up), and see how that feels. Volume spacers are for increasing progression. Once you get the pressure close, you can experiment with spacers.

Posted: Oct 29, 2023 at 16:36 Quote
Subversion-Garage wrote:
Ici01 wrote:
At my body weight it's 340psi for a sag of about 28. To what extent could I go down with the pressure if I used the largest volume spacer?

Anyway, thx guys

340 is too much. Start with your body weight (kitted up), and see how that feels. Volume spacers are for increasing progression. Once you get the pressure close, you can experiment with spacers.

If i did that on my stumpy i wouldve had more than 50% sag...........

Posted: Oct 30, 2023 at 4:28 Quote
Thanks guys, unfortunately I'm not really getting any wiser. Since I'm still within the return period for the bike, I can't test it on trails. The bike feels good on my “living room trail” Wink .
I'm just wondering how others get by with much less pressure in the Float X with almost the same weight. I don't think the suspension is defective. I have already written to Specialized several times, but so far there has been no response.

Btw, an LTD version in size S6 has just become available - with a Rock Shox Super Deluxe Ultimate and a RockShox Lyrik Ultimate. But I haven't dealt with Rockshox yet. That means I'm not familiar with RockShox.

What do you think, which shocks would be more suitable for my weight? Because of my weight, I'm generally a bit worried about whether an Evo is the best choice for me. I just fell in love with the bike. And unfortunately I can't go on trails with it in case I return it as mentioned above

Posted: Oct 30, 2023 at 6:47 Quote
Ici01 wrote:
Thanks guys, unfortunately I'm not really getting any wiser. Since I'm still within the return period for the bike, I can't test it on trails. The bike feels good on my “living room trail” Wink .
I'm just wondering how others get by with much less pressure in the Float X with almost the same weight. I don't think the suspension is defective. I have already written to Specialized several times, but so far there has been no response.

Btw, an LTD version in size S6 has just become available - with a Rock Shox Super Deluxe Ultimate and a RockShox Lyrik Ultimate. But I haven't dealt with Rockshox yet. That means I'm not familiar with RockShox.

What do you think, which shocks would be more suitable for my weight? Because of my weight, I'm generally a bit worried about whether an Evo is the best choice for me. I just fell in love with the bike. And unfortunately I can't go on trails with it in case I return it as mentioned above

You say that your weight is approximately 240lb, can I ask when you last weighed yourself?

If you're not taking it outside, it's difficult to see how you could be setting your sag correctly? Also is the shock inflated correctly, ie you cycle it through it's travel every 50psi or so that you inflate it from fully empty?

In the UK, you can get Specialized on Whatsapp to answer questions.

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Posted: Oct 30, 2023 at 8:58 Quote
No way you should be maxing out a shock if you're 240 lbs. That being said the SDU is a better shock than the X.

Posted: Oct 30, 2023 at 10:05 Quote
Thank you guys. There doesn't seem to be a thanks button here (I'm new to the forum).
Firstly, I followed the procedure exactly when adjusting the sag. Not outside, but I rocked the bike almost to the bottom several times every 30-50psi. I left the pump on, but that's not the problem, at least I don't think so.
And, according to the Specialized calculater, the optimal pressure for my body weight would be 350psi.

Well, I could still switch to the Rockshox equipment, i.e. the Evo LTD. But a lot more expensive and mullet; I maybe I might end up facing the same problem, if that's the case.

Nevertheless, for now, thank you very much for your helpful posts

Posted: Oct 30, 2023 at 10:23 Quote
double post, sry Wink

Posted: Oct 30, 2023 at 10:55 Quote
I’ll just stress that in my opinion the Specialized suspension configurator isn’t massively accurate. Just done it for and it says 308psi for the shock whereas in reality (with the largest volume reducer) I’m at 190 psi. If you have a local suspension specialist, see if you can book in a set-up session. Best £100 I’ve spent in a long time. For reference, I had a Sentinel Alloy a few bikes back, I think I was running ~200psi in that too (on a Float X). I don’t think your weight is an issue for either the Econor the Float X!

Posted: Oct 31, 2023 at 5:20 Quote
Thanks. I wrote to Specialized support yesterday and received a telephone response today. The support team contacted Fox themselves and replied that there was definitely something wrong with the shock. For my weight the pressure would have to be somewhere between 260 to 280psi.
And Specialized's calculator may actually give incorrect values.
In any case, the bike will go back and the shock will be replaced if necessary.

Posted: Oct 31, 2023 at 11:36 Quote
Henwifi wrote:
I’ll just stress that in my opinion the Specialized suspension configurator isn’t massively accurate. Just done it for and it says 308psi for the shock whereas in reality (with the largest volume reducer) I’m at 190 psi. If you have a local suspension specialist, see if you can book in a set-up session. Best £100 I’ve spent in a long time. For reference, I had a Sentinel Alloy a few bikes back, I think I was running ~200psi in that too (on a Float X). I don’t think your weight is an issue for either the Econor the Float X!

Who did you use please?

Posted: Oct 31, 2023 at 15:06 Quote
BarneyStinson wrote:
Henwifi wrote:
I’ll just stress that in my opinion the Specialized suspension configurator isn’t massively accurate. Just done it for and it says 308psi for the shock whereas in reality (with the largest volume reducer) I’m at 190 psi. If you have a local suspension specialist, see if you can book in a set-up session. Best £100 I’ve spent in a long time. For reference, I had a Sentinel Alloy a few bikes back, I think I was running ~200psi in that too (on a Float X). I don’t think your weight is an issue for either the Econor the Float X!

Who did you use please?

I used Brink based in Hertfordshire, UK. Would recommend

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Posted: Oct 31, 2023 at 16:09 Quote
Ici01 wrote:
Thanks. I wrote to Specialized support yesterday and received a telephone response today. The support team contacted Fox themselves and replied that there was definitely something wrong with the shock. For my weight the pressure would have to be somewhere between 260 to 280psi.
And Specialized's calculator may actually give incorrect values.
In any case, the bike will go back and the shock will be replaced if necessary.

Makes sense. No way you’d need that kind of pressure.

Posted: Nov 3, 2023 at 8:43 Quote
What do folks think of SDU vs Vivid on the stumpy, I'm 215 lbs, so that likely plays a role.

Raced an enduro on it last weekend, was a lot of fun, and super muddy, so not really the best way to decide if the Float X is good enough, but it felt like it left a bit to be desired.

The bike is used as a enduro bike mostly, or atleast when I'm just using it as a trail bike, the rides are descent focused. I have a previous gen Lyric Ultimate on it, should probably be a Zeb, but I'm happy with it.

The other option, is not spend too much on this, and move on to something else, which seems like a more expensive proposition. For what its worth though, I do think this was a great bike for the enduro I raced, so I wont be quick to move on.

Posted: Nov 4, 2023 at 13:35 Quote
sean-curran wrote:
What do folks think of SDU vs Vivid on the stumpy, I'm 215 lbs, so that likely plays a role.

Raced an enduro on it last weekend, was a lot of fun, and super muddy, so not really the best way to decide if the Float X is good enough, but it felt like it left a bit to be desired.

The bike is used as a enduro bike mostly, or atleast when I'm just using it as a trail bike, the rides are descent focused. I have a previous gen Lyric Ultimate on it, should probably be a Zeb, but I'm happy with it.

The other option, is not spend too much on this, and move on to something else, which seems like a more expensive proposition. For what it’s worth though, I do think this was a great bike for the enduro I raced, so I wont be quick to move on.
I recently swapped my float x for a vivid. The float x wasn’t bad but where I ride and how I ride I needed something with just a little bit more than the float x could give me. The vivid is still supportive, still poppy, but gives more in the rough stuff. I wouldn’t say the vivid has ‘transformed’ the bike. But it has stopped me looking at other bikes and made it into the bike I now love. Stopped the back end dancing around when the trails turned nasty. Just my point of view.

Posted: Nov 4, 2023 at 15:10 Quote
Unfortunately, my Float X shit the bed today. Bike has only been together a couple of months. Frown

However, the shock was feeling pretty good until.... Big Grin


 


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