2021 Altitude Ride 9 Set Up

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2021 Altitude Ride 9 Set Up
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Posted: Sep 2, 2021 at 12:27 Quote
I emailed Rocky about my '21 Altitude to get clarification on the ride9 settings, specifically about which settings are progressive and regressive, and which settings are for geometry. I noticed the commonly-linked 2018 guide showed the opposite of what youtubers (like Jeff Kendall Weed) were saying as well as what the '21 Altitude manual said. The response is interesting, and not what I expected:

There indeed seems to be a mistake in the 2018 guide. The best way I can explain Ride 9 is the following. Horizontal adjustments affect the geometry and vertical adjustments the suspension curve. Positions 1,2,4 are slack geometry, 3,5,7 neutral geometry and 6,8,9 steep geometry. Positions 4,7,8 are the most progressive, 1,5,9 are neutral and 2,3,6 are regressive suspension curves.

Posted: Sep 2, 2021 at 19:15 Quote
Yeah wow that is different to what I thought as well, actually thought it was the opposite.
I went from position 5 to position 2 and assumed the suspension curve was the same.
I added 15psi to the shock but thought that might have been from the geo changes, lower BB etc.
I’m going to change it to the slack neutral position according to the above info and see how I go.
Thanks for the updates.

Posted: Sep 3, 2021 at 11:56 Quote
Keys33 wrote:
Yeah wow that is different to what I thought as well, actually thought it was the opposite.
I went from position 5 to position 2 and assumed the suspension curve was the same.
I added 15psi to the shock but thought that might have been from the geo changes, lower BB etc.
I’m going to change it to the slack neutral position according to the above info and see how I go.
Thanks for the updates.

If you look at the angle of the flip-chip, it's not perfectly 90 degrees to the shock angle. So position 2 is slightly more regressive than 5, since the chip will put the shock higher up in the linkage (which means that the shock compresses a bit less compared to the movement of the whole bike).

Rocky's answer makes sense, but not all 3 "regressive" settings are the same "regressiveness" if you catch my drift.

So position 3 is more regressive than position 2, but also has slightly steeper geo vs. position 2.

Posted: Sep 7, 2021 at 21:51 Quote
What positions are people liking with the different shocks?

So far, position 2 with the dpx2 has been good to me.

Posted: Sep 23, 2021 at 16:05 Quote
Just got my 2021 RM Altitude on the way, wanting to go coil, what position's would best suit a coil?
Also for you guys running the steeper setup are any of you running an angle set?

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Posted: Sep 24, 2021 at 5:01 Quote
Really depends on the terrain. I have yet to find a situation where position 1 was not steep enough. Even in position 9 65degree head angle is not to steep, I do find I have to run more compression on the front fork because of the weight shift. If you don’t have the option add 5 psi to the fork. I like position 4 for all around riding. I’m running about 33% sag weigh 170lbs and run a 450 coil. Rocky’s advice is best and just try different positions. Resist the urge to change it every time you ride. You will find the sweet spot. Btw it took me about 3 months to find what I like, but it was a fun experiment.

Posted: Sep 24, 2021 at 11:08 Quote
noideamtber wrote:
Just got my 2021 RM Altitude on the way, wanting to go coil, what position's would best suit a coil?
Also for you guys running the steeper setup are any of you running an angle set?

Settled now in Pos 4, run a DHX2 with 475 lbs SLS coil (186 lbs / 85 kg ready to ride) and the stock DPX2 (240 psi). Prefer Pos 4 over the fully slack 1-3.

Posted: Feb 1, 2022 at 14:17 Quote
I got my RM Altitude 2021 at the end of 2021 Fall and I was able ton ride it a couple of time before winter and skiing season. Coming from a 150/150 Orbea Occam AM 2019, i've noticed that the RM Altidue was waayyy more stable at high speed and steep section. I rode it in position 1 (slackest) and short CS. I choose those settings cause i wanted to have a feeling of a "big bike" without being too far from my short trail bike. But, while i was comfortable at high speed, I found it difficult to manipulate the bike in tight and technical sections. I also found difficult to bunny hop of even just wheely the bike. Do you recomand me to switch to at neutral first and try, or to switch at pos. 2 or 3? I read that Jesse Melamed have customs chip to get a "medium CS" and another one to be somewhere between pos. 2 and 3!
Thx y'all!

Posted: Feb 1, 2022 at 14:36 Quote
The altitude requires More LSC than your probably used to, the stock dpx etc dont have a LSC dial which bothers me, i have to run mine in "trail".
Kinda wish they just used normal shock hardware as contributes to that feeling. I've read someone has used normal before and while it lost some of that small bump it picked up what is effectively LSC in the form of more friction.

i run my dpx2 with .6 spacer and in trail mode, second from slackest and its great.
i've recently been testing a 27.5 rear wheel in pos9(steepest) and ive left it on.. IMO the bike benefits from it.

its not a hugely "poppy" bike compared to trail bikes but compared to most enduros its good as.

Get your LSC sorted and itll feel good.

Posted: Apr 26, 2022 at 17:48 Quote
Does using the slacker positions reduce the travel? For the prior models with ride9 where the chip was in a different position this seemed to be the case. Just curious if anyone has looked into this.

Posted: Apr 26, 2022 at 17:54 Quote
beholdtheflesh wrote:
I emailed Rocky about my '21 Altitude to get clarification on the ride9 settings, specifically about which settings are progressive and regressive, and which settings are for geometry. I noticed the commonly-linked 2018 guide showed the opposite of what youtubers (like Jeff Kendall Weed) were saying as well as what the '21 Altitude manual said. The response is interesting, and not what I expected:

There indeed seems to be a mistake in the 2018 guide. The best way I can explain Ride 9 is the following. Horizontal adjustments affect the geometry and vertical adjustments the suspension curve. Positions 1,2,4 are slack geometry, 3,5,7 neutral geometry and 6,8,9 steep geometry. Positions 4,7,8 are the most progressive, 1,5,9 are neutral and 2,3,6 are regressive suspension curves.

Rocky just posted a new video and is now saying position 1 is slackest/most progressive. Weird aren't consistent with what they are saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjGPGNni0Zo&ab_channel=RockyMountainBicycles

Posted: May 23, 2022 at 13:08 Quote
Got that message earlier.this year

"I have to correct one thing I said in that first email. The Ride 9 system has a neutral feeling suspension curve in positions 1,5,9. The positions 2,3,6 are more progressive and 4,7,8 are more linear. Position 9 has 167mm travel, position 5 160mm and postition 1, 153mm."

Inguess just choose whatever position you want and assume your setting.

Got my bike in 3 with a -1 degree headset. Feels prime.

Posted: Jun 27, 2022 at 3:16 Quote
noideamtber wrote:
The altitude requires More LSC than your probably used to, the stock dpx etc dont have a LSC dial which bothers me, i have to run mine in "trail".
Kinda wish they just used normal shock hardware as contributes to that feeling. I've read someone has used normal before and while it lost some of that small bump it picked up what is effectively LSC in the form of more friction.

i run my dpx2 with .6 spacer and in trail mode, second from slackest and its great.
i've recently been testing a 27.5 rear wheel in pos9(steepest) and ive left it on.. IMO the bike benefits from it.

I've set up the same recently and love it. Do you run long or short chain stays though?
its not a hugely "poppy" bike compared to trail bikes but compared to most enduros its good as.

Get your LSC sorted and itll feel good.

Posted: Jun 27, 2022 at 3:18 Quote
I've set up the same recently and love it. Do you run long or short chain stays though?

Posted: Jul 13, 2022 at 20:12 Quote
sack-zement wrote:
Got that message earlier.this year

"I have to correct one thing I said in that first email. The Ride 9 system has a neutral feeling suspension curve in positions 1,5,9. The positions 2,3,6 are more progressive and 4,7,8 are more linear. Position 9 has 167mm travel, position 5 160mm and postition 1, 153mm."

Inguess just choose whatever position you want and assume your setting.

Got my bike in 3 with a -1 degree headset. Feels prime.

so that is three different explainations. First what was published in the 2018 Altitideu ride guide, then what was in the first email correspondence and now this correction.

I wonder if this applies only to 2021 model year or also applies to 2018. The flip chip doesn't look any diference.

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