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Posted: Jun 17, 2021 at 11:17 Quote
kinny-pb wrote:
SkateFaster wrote:

Robin Cook didn't die mysteriously. He suffered a heart attack after a fall.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2005/aug/07/uk.labour

Questionable.

CIA made a heart attack gun years back which left no traces of the poison that caused it.


Plus many people who blew the whistle on government secrets have suddenly died not long after making public statements,

The US government want Assange extradited to the USA to serve life in prison, even though he exposed them of crimes and didn't commit any himself,

Can't believe most people still trust their governments.


You quoted the guardian in your post, so I quoted the guardian in my reply. So if they report questionable news on his death surely the original report is questionable?!
This is the problem with conspiracy theories, you will never believe the truth because it tends to often be quite boring so go digging around to find a small snippet of information that may lead you to believe something way out there.

Posted: Jun 17, 2021 at 11:18 Quote
And for all of you statists who believe governments and intelligence agencies are looking out for your best interest, read this Wikipedia article, seeing as you all trust "credible" sources for information: -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKNAOMI

And their plan to make false terror attacks and blame it on Cuba. Which John F Kennedy stopped. Then suddenly was assassinated not long after: -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods



Posted: Jun 17, 2021 at 13:46 Quote
"One very popular conspiracy theory is about the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001.

The theory is that the owner Larry Silverstein had some kind of involvement in the terrorist attack to benefit from the huge insurance policy he took out covering terrorism. Just months before 9/11, the World Trade Center’s lease was sold to Silverstein. He took out an insurance plan that covered terrorism. After 9/11, Silverstein took the insurance company to court, claiming he should be paid double because there were two attacks. He then won the case and was awarded $4.5 billion" -

https://rhsregister.com/opinion/2019/05/21/evidence-shows-its-false-but-conspiracies-still-make-us-wonder/

Just coincidence though, everyone....Smile


Posted: Jun 17, 2021 at 14:24 Quote
kinny-pb wrote:
"One very popular conspiracy theory is about the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001.

The theory is that the owner Larry Silverstein had some kind of involvement in the terrorist attack to benefit from the huge insurance policy he took out covering terrorism. Just months before 9/11, the World Trade Center’s lease was sold to Silverstein. He took out an insurance plan that covered terrorism. After 9/11, Silverstein took the insurance company to court, claiming he should be paid double because there were two attacks. He then won the case and was awarded $4.5 billion" -

https://rhsregister.com/opinion/2019/05/21/evidence-shows-its-false-but-conspiracies-still-make-us-wonder/

Just coincidence though, everyone....Smile

So who's to blame for the 9/11 attacks?
A terrorist organisation?
A government conspiracy to destabilise peace?
Wall Street?
A collection of the richest men in the world?
Or a simple insurance job?

You seem to peddle many "truths" that hold absolutely no credibility. You also cite evidence from rather weak sources mainly on Facebook or you tube. You don't even seem to subscribe to one solid theory, you just find new conspiracy theories buried in a meme, and immediately post it in a forum.

Do you have a job?
Do you spend time with people, outside in the real world? Or is all of your time spent on the internet looking for the next conspiracy theory?

I think you need to reflect on the rubbish you share, it seems to consume your life. Call me a sheep if you like, I call you one back...you blindly follow idiots who come up with these ridiculous ideas and think that you're Neo and can see something others cannot...

I'm sure you are a nice guy, and I imagine having a beer with you could be a laugh, but there would come a point when laughing at you would be sad, and I would be feeling sorry for the fact your mind is so entrenched in all this rubbish.

Here is a conspiracy theory for you: the world isn't as exciting as your theories make them out to be.....sorry.

Posted: Jun 17, 2021 at 14:57 Quote
SkateFaster wrote:
kinny-pb wrote:
"One very popular conspiracy theory is about the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001.

The theory is that the owner Larry Silverstein had some kind of involvement in the terrorist attack to benefit from the huge insurance policy he took out covering terrorism. Just months before 9/11, the World Trade Center’s lease was sold to Silverstein. He took out an insurance plan that covered terrorism. After 9/11, Silverstein took the insurance company to court, claiming he should be paid double because there were two attacks. He then won the case and was awarded $4.5 billion" -

https://rhsregister.com/opinion/2019/05/21/evidence-shows-its-false-but-conspiracies-still-make-us-wonder/

Just coincidence though, everyone....Smile

So who's to blame for the 9/11 attacks?
A terrorist organisation?
A government conspiracy to destabilise peace?
Wall Street?
A collection of the richest men in the world?
Or a simple insurance job?

You seem to peddle many "truths" that hold absolutely no credibility. You also cite evidence from rather weak sources mainly on Facebook or you tube. You don't even seem to subscribe to one solid theory, you just find new conspiracy theories buried in a meme, and immediately post it in a forum.

kinny-pb wrote:
And for all of you statists who believe governments and intelligence agencies are looking out for your best interest, read this Wikipedia article, seeing as you all trust "credible" sources for information: -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKNAOMI

And their plan to make false terror attacks and blame it on Cuba. Which John F Kennedy stopped. Then suddenly was assassinated not long after: -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

kinny-pb wrote:
DCA, if you believe actual terrorists flew those planes into the twin towers, please watch this - https://www.facebook.com/claudio.marty.911/videos/255515916368577. It's only 5 minutes long.

(Ex) Captain Dan Hanley and other commercial pilots have stated that it was impossible for inexperienced Arabic terrorists (who failed to fly a Cessna propellered plane) couldn't have flown those jets into the towers.

You and other Americans...well...the world have been lied to about 9/11 and it would be good for you to check out Captain Dan Hanley's research and testimonies regarding the planes used in 9/11.

The flight path of the plane which hit the Pentagon was even more ludicrous and not even a professional pilot could have flown the flight path into the pentagon.

If you visit here, you'll see many pilots agree with Captain Dan Hanley that it was impossible for Arabic hijackers to fly the flight paths into the towers and that the planes were flying over 500 knots, to the point they would have fell apart -https://911pilots.org/.

I just don't like to see the un-awakened being lied to about 9/11, and other things.

Since I researched 9/11 in 2014, I've learned more about false flag attacks and other things. It's scary, but once you're awake, it's hard to go back to sleep.

This is a good read too - Fake terror plots, paid informants: the tactics of FBI 'entrapment' questioned - By the Guardian, seeing as Matt needs credible sources to believe what I'm saying. Smile

Take a look at those and let me know if you can debunk them dude.

A professional pilot with decades of experience who tried to reconstruct the flight paths of the planes used to fly into the twin towers on a real flight simulator cockpit and him and other pilots said it was impossible to them to reconstuct,

You'll hear him say on the video that the "uninterruptable autopilot" was used to guide the planes into the towers as the only possible way that the planes could have hit the towers. It's activated remotely on hijackings.

He's an ex-captain and knows more than you and me.

Regarding Pentagon plane

Seeing as the CIA tried to convince JFK (Operation Northwoods) to stage a terrorist attack by blowing up planes over Cuba, and then blame Cuba for the attack, shows that they have history of corruption and it's a similar tactic to 9/11. That's in Wikipedia, which you, DCA and Matt will all find as credible sources of information.

9/11 was used to invade Afghanistan for the opium trade as it makes a lot of revenue if the US government/CIA are selling it. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking

9/11 was an excuse for the US to invade Iraq for Saddam's gold and Iraq's oil and they blamed him for being connected to 9/11, even though they had no proof.

The US give Israel $38 billion a year and as you can see below, an ex-Israeli prime minister admits they own the US government. And Iraq and Afghanistan were both invaded to destabilise the middle east as they were powerful countries who opposed Israel, So not only the bonus for getting the opium trade, oil and gold, but also a bonus for Israel to take out enemies.

Now do you see why Iran is being demonised by the US? They're enemies of Israel too, so will be next.

( https://www.azquotes.com/author/13410-Ariel_Sharon )


Thanks for your kind words and not ripping into me with insults like Matt did. I take insults with a pinch of salt these days. I do have a job and friends and have a social life, but work part time right now, so have plenty of time to research.

I don't know you, but yeah, if we met for beers, I'd gladly explain my knowledge to you and see if I could enlighten you with what I've learned. I used to be a sheep, but woke up in 2014 after I saw what was questionable of the official 9/11 story.

kinny-pb wrote:
DCA and Matt. I used to be like you both. I was a statist and couldn't accept or believe governments would kill their own people for political and financial gain.

My ex showed me a 9/11 conspiracy video on YouTube back in 2011. I shunned her and told her "I'm not even gonna watch this bullshit" because I couldn't and wouldn't accept that a government would attack it's own people.

In 2014, after living alone (ex left me in 2012) I saw some credible sources claiming 9/11 was an inside job, so went and watched the video my ex tried to show me.

It was so credible, that I was shocked, and that's where I became a truther/conspiracy theorist and have learned a lot since then.

Anyway, watch the 5 minute long video in the first link on my post above. This is an ex-Captain and commercial pilot who has tried reconstructing (on real life flight simulators) the flight paths of the planes used to go into to the twin towers, and he claims (not just him but other pilots) that it was impossible for him to do, so how did Arabic terrorists who failed to control and fly a single engine Cessna, able to fly those powerful and fast planes into the towers?

It should enlighten you both, unless the cognitive dissonance blocks you from accepting it.

I'll try and refrain from replying to you all who ridicule me because I'm out-ganged by sleepers, and PMZ seems to be the only other awakened one in here.

MSM Admits Fact Checkers Were Wrong.Truth Will Never Be Found Through Censorship

Peace.

Posted: Jun 18, 2021 at 9:14 Quote
kinny-pb wrote:
SkateFaster wrote:
kinny-pb wrote:
"One very popular conspiracy theory is about the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001.

The theory is that the owner Larry Silverstein had some kind of involvement in the terrorist attack to benefit from the huge insurance policy he took out covering terrorism. Just months before 9/11, the World Trade Center’s lease was sold to Silverstein. He took out an insurance plan that covered terrorism. After 9/11, Silverstein took the insurance company to court, claiming he should be paid double because there were two attacks. He then won the case and was awarded $4.5 billion" -

https://rhsregister.com/opinion/2019/05/21/evidence-shows-its-false-but-conspiracies-still-make-us-wonder/

Just coincidence though, everyone....Smile

So who's to blame for the 9/11 attacks?
A terrorist organisation?
A government conspiracy to destabilise peace?
Wall Street?
A collection of the richest men in the world?
Or a simple insurance job?

You seem to peddle many "truths" that hold absolutely no credibility. You also cite evidence from rather weak sources mainly on Facebook or you tube. You don't even seem to subscribe to one solid theory, you just find new conspiracy theories buried in a meme, and immediately post it in a forum.

kinny-pb wrote:
And for all of you statists who believe governments and intelligence agencies are looking out for your best interest, read this Wikipedia article, seeing as you all trust "credible" sources for information: -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKNAOMI

And their plan to make false terror attacks and blame it on Cuba. Which John F Kennedy stopped. Then suddenly was assassinated not long after: -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

kinny-pb wrote:
DCA, if you believe actual terrorists flew those planes into the twin towers, please watch this - https://www.facebook.com/claudio.marty.911/videos/255515916368577. It's only 5 minutes long.

(Ex) Captain Dan Hanley and other commercial pilots have stated that it was impossible for inexperienced Arabic terrorists (who failed to fly a Cessna propellered plane) couldn't have flown those jets into the towers.

You and other Americans...well...the world have been lied to about 9/11 and it would be good for you to check out Captain Dan Hanley's research and testimonies regarding the planes used in 9/11.

The flight path of the plane which hit the Pentagon was even more ludicrous and not even a professional pilot could have flown the flight path into the pentagon.

If you visit here, you'll see many pilots agree with Captain Dan Hanley that it was impossible for Arabic hijackers to fly the flight paths into the towers and that the planes were flying over 500 knots, to the point they would have fell apart -https://911pilots.org/.

I just don't like to see the un-awakened being lied to about 9/11, and other things.

Since I researched 9/11 in 2014, I've learned more about false flag attacks and other things. It's scary, but once you're awake, it's hard to go back to sleep.

This is a good read too - Fake terror plots, paid informants: the tactics of FBI 'entrapment' questioned - By the Guardian, seeing as Matt needs credible sources to believe what I'm saying. Smile

Take a look at those and let me know if you can debunk them dude.

A professional pilot with decades of experience who tried to reconstruct the flight paths of the planes used to fly into the twin towers on a real flight simulator cockpit and him and other pilots said it was impossible to them to reconstuct,

You'll hear him say on the video that the "uninterruptable autopilot" was used to guide the planes into the towers as the only possible way that the planes could have hit the towers. It's activated remotely on hijackings.

He's an ex-captain and knows more than you and me.

Regarding Pentagon plane

Seeing as the CIA tried to convince JFK (Operation Northwoods) to stage a terrorist attack by blowing up planes over Cuba, and then blame Cuba for the attack, shows that they have history of corruption and it's a similar tactic to 9/11. That's in Wikipedia, which you, DCA and Matt will all find as credible sources of information.

9/11 was used to invade Afghanistan for the opium trade as it makes a lot of revenue if the US government/CIA are selling it. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking

9/11 was an excuse for the US to invade Iraq for Saddam's gold and Iraq's oil and they blamed him for being connected to 9/11, even though they had no proof.

The US give Israel $38 billion a year and as you can see below, an ex-Israeli prime minister admits they own the US government. And Iraq and Afghanistan were both invaded to destabilise the middle east as they were powerful countries who opposed Israel, So not only the bonus for getting the opium trade, oil and gold, but also a bonus for Israel to take out enemies.

Now do you see why Iran is being demonised by the US? They're enemies of Israel too, so will be next.

( https://www.azquotes.com/author/13410-Ariel_Sharon )


Thanks for your kind words and not ripping into me with insults like Matt did. I take insults with a pinch of salt these days. I do have a job and friends and have a social life, but work part time right now, so have plenty of time to research.

I don't know you, but yeah, if we met for beers, I'd gladly explain my knowledge to you and see if I could enlighten you with what I've learned. I used to be a sheep, but woke up in 2014 after I saw what was questionable of the official 9/11 story.

kinny-pb wrote:
DCA and Matt. I used to be like you both. I was a statist and couldn't accept or believe governments would kill their own people for political and financial gain.

My ex showed me a 9/11 conspiracy video on YouTube back in 2011. I shunned her and told her "I'm not even gonna watch this bullshit" because I couldn't and wouldn't accept that a government would attack it's own people.

In 2014, after living alone (ex left me in 2012) I saw some credible sources claiming 9/11 was an inside job, so went and watched the video my ex tried to show me.

It was so credible, that I was shocked, and that's where I became a truther/conspiracy theorist and have learned a lot since then.

Anyway, watch the 5 minute long video in the first link on my post above. This is an ex-Captain and commercial pilot who has tried reconstructing (on real life flight simulators) the flight paths of the planes used to go into to the twin towers, and he claims (not just him but other pilots) that it was impossible for him to do, so how did Arabic terrorists who failed to control and fly a single engine Cessna, able to fly those powerful and fast planes into the towers?

It should enlighten you both, unless the cognitive dissonance blocks you from accepting it.

I'll try and refrain from replying to you all who ridicule me because I'm out-ganged by sleepers, and PMZ seems to be the only other awakened one in here.

MSM Admits Fact Checkers Were Wrong.Truth Will Never Be Found Through Censorship

Peace.

Believe it or not, I do not just blindly subscribe to everything the govt or any official body states. I am well aware that there are shady underhand dealings going on in the world, whether it's by and through pharmaceutical companies, social media giants, dictatorships or even our own govt.
But here's the thing, I don't subscribe to these nonsensical conspiracy theories involving big events. It almost seems too easy to come up with these and summarise it in a meme. For every "specialist" who would defend a conspiracy theory I could find you hundreds of others who would debunk it - all with credentials equal or superior to your specialist, and with or without ties to a govt.
If I'm honest what really interests me, is the more grounded conspiracies:
Who was responsible for Grenfell (and no, I'm not looking for some shady X files style character or organisation)? Who covered what up that led to many people dieing?
What about the private detective killed in a pub car park because he was about to blow the lid on police corruption?
The MET police? Cressida Dick? Systematic racism in the police?
Peers and lordships handed out on what basis?
Boris Johnson - well anything to do with him really!
I could go on.....the point I would like to make with this is that you Kinny seem like the kind of guy who can research well, someone who could make a real difference to society. Someone who could research, campaign, publish results....whatever, but aim to find the truth. Yes, these more grounded conspiracies are not fashionable, they're not "out there", they don't give you the opportunity to publish a funky ass meme, and they probably won't grab people's attention. But it may - just may - make a difference to some of the marginalised or some of the weak in society.
There's a truth to be found out there, an ugly truth, and I invite you to focus your attention on these more important - and perhaps in my opinion - more grounded and less ridiculous - issues. You never know, you may just blow the lid on something big.......

Posted: Jun 18, 2021 at 9:28 Quote
Thanks for your insight dude.

I am too heavily involved in truth/conspiracy stuff, and don't know much about Grenfall and most of the other things you listed, apart from the cladding used on the tower was dangerous and shouldn't have been installed on there.

I'm a centrist, although more liberal at heart and supported Corbyn on the last general election, but that's be cause he seemed to be anti-establishment.

I'm not a fan of the Tories either, lol.

I'll consider looking into those things though, and thanks for the suggestions.

I was just pointing out things that blow the official story of 9/11.

I guess this thread was for finding Pinkbike truthers like me, but mostly people who deny them posted in here, although I'm up for debating.

Probably my karma for getting involved with hijacking DCA's YT thread, which I accept.

Hope you have a good weekend.

Posted: Jun 18, 2021 at 10:01 Quote
kinny-pb wrote:
Thanks for your insight dude.

I am too heavily involved in truth/conspiracy stuff, and don't know much about Grenfall and most of the other things you listed, apart from the cladding used on the tower was dangerous and shouldn't have been installed on there.

I'm a centrist, although more liberal at heart and supported Corbyn on the last general election, but that's be cause he seemed to be anti-establishment.

I'm not a fan of the Tories either, lol.

I'll consider looking into those things though, and thanks for the suggestions.

I was just pointing out things that blow the official story of 9/11.

I guess this thread was for finding Pinkbike truthers like me, but mostly people who deny them posted in here, although I'm up for debating.

Probably my karma for getting involved with hijacking DCA's YT thread, which I accept.

Hope you have a good weekend.

Hey dude, absolutely no beef at all....you're harming no one by what you do...I prefer the world to be full of interesting people with independent thoughts. And debate is healthy, and fun!

Yeah, have a great weekend!

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