Privateer 141

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Posted: Sep 19, 2021 at 5:43 Quote
Another thing I'm really liking about the 141...It's really easy to clean! I don't have access to a hose or jetwash so it's a bucket and brush for me.

There's no tight little spots where mud collects and can't be got at. I'm happy chappy today.

Posted: Sep 19, 2021 at 10:43 Quote
I’m heavily considering the 141. But one of my hang ups is that I just can’t figure out sizing.

I’m 6’1” (185cm). And if I size on reach similar to my current bike (which I feel is a bit small at 475mm reach, 621mm stack), then the P3 is the closest size (485mm reach, 637mm stack). But if I size this way my ETT is way shorter.

On the flip side, if I size by ETT similar to my current bike, then the P4 is the closest. And then the reach gets pretty sizable (510mm reach, 646mm stack).

Has anyone here close to my side ridden both a P3 or P4?

Can I ask a favor of someone on a P3? Can you measure the distance between the top center of your head tube/stem top cap bolt and the center of the seat post clamp, when the saddle is set to my ride height?

My saddle height is 36.5in (~927mm) from top of pedal to top of saddle.

The problem is I can’t demo one, as I’m in the US. So I’m trying to see how “cramped” I’d be seated on a P3, or if it would be fine.

Thanks in advance Smile .

Posted: Sep 19, 2021 at 11:08 Quote
Speak to Privateer / they’ve a pretty solid track record in recommending sizing.

Posted: Sep 19, 2021 at 11:33 Quote
simonnewell wrote:
Speak to Privateer / they’ve a pretty solid track record in recommending sizing.

I emailed them earlier about it. They don’t really have anyone internally that is my size.

They ended up saying “both could probably work, just depends on what you want”.

Posted: Sep 19, 2021 at 13:09 Quote
i ended up buying two frames, rode both and sold the bigger one, (im 183) I like my saddle at the correct height so its up quite high, most people who feel cramped are not setting their saddle for effective pedaling.

Posted: Sep 19, 2021 at 13:25 Quote
mtbtrekracer wrote:
i ended up buying two frames, rode both and sold the bigger one, (im 183) I like my saddle at the correct height so its up quite high, most people who feel cramped are not setting their saddle for effective pedaling.

Did you buy the P3 and P4 then? Why did you get ride of the larger one?

What is your inseam/saddle height?

The ETT on my current bike is 632mm, but has a super slack actual seat tube angle of 67 degrees. The seat tube on the P3 is 612mm, and P4 is 640mm, and the angle is wayyyy steeper. So I’m curious if the P3 will seem too small when seated.

Posted: Nov 27, 2021 at 3:33 Quote
Nukeproof Disent 290 chain stay protector. No trimming or modding required, straight swap for the junk supplied on the Privateers. £10 from Chain Reaction.
Here on a 141 P3, shorter chain stays may need a little trim at the rear.


Posted: Apr 2, 2022 at 10:10 Quote
Working on selling my Capra for the 141. I have put a deposit down for the black SLX/XT build with ohlins suspension. Can wait for it. Should be arriving in a month or so.

I wanted to move to a 29” bike that could handle the ups and downs. Stoked to get it.

Posted: Apr 11, 2022 at 9:53 Quote
2 weeks to go for mine

Posted: Apr 22, 2022 at 22:33 Quote
I just got the email that my frame will soon be ready for dispatch! Placed deposit in mid January, looking forward to get it built! P1 in raw with Fox Float X, DVO Diamond, Dt Swiss M542 & E532 on Hope hubs, Magic Mary 2.6 front, Big Betty 2.4 rear, GX 11sp, OneUp dropper. Gonna use my current ht's cockpit untill I figure out how it fits.

Will post pics when the frame is here.

Posted: Apr 22, 2022 at 23:23 Quote
25th? Landing in warehouse? Anyone want to buy my Kingdom Vendetta ti frame? Big Grin all the bits are off and ready to go onto the 141.

Posted: Apr 25, 2022 at 13:50 Quote
I'm thinking about a 141 or a Jeffsy. What do you think has the best value?

Posted: May 10, 2022 at 12:26 Quote
Lvanamson wrote:
I'm thinking about a 141 or a Jeffsy. What do you think has the best value?

I had a 1st gen Jeffsy CF Pro Race 29er. It was replaced by the 141...I don't regret it for one moment.
But it is quite a different bike.

Posted: Jun 22, 2022 at 1:57 Quote

I have around 300km on my freshly built 141 now and have taken it to a variety of local trails, mostly of the rocky, natural stuff but some fast flow as well. Have done from short after work rides up to 40-50km days with 1600m of elevation. I actually plan to do bigger days because the bike asks for it. No shuttle days yet (I'm not a big fan) but will happen at some point.

It's a custom build with a DVO Diamond fork set at 150mm, DT swiss M542/E532rims on Hope hubs, OneUp v1 170mm dropper and Avid X0 Trail brakes with 203mm XT rotors f/r. Drivetrain is mixed, GX 11sp shifter and derailleur, 165mm GX Eagle crankset with 32t chainring, Sunrace 11-46t cassette. Pedals are Shimano M530. Some parts come from my previous built, hence the mixed spec. I also have a Nukeproof ARD insert on the rear. Tyres are Schwalbe MM 2.6 f, BB 2.4 r, Supertrail casings.

None of the above parts are considered lightweight and the frame itself is quite heavy, so despite it being the smallest size with 27.5 wheels it touched 16kg on the scales complete with pedals. The frame could be described as "spartan". Everything on it is there for a reason, no extra bits for style or decoration. Still, it's angular shapes are easy on the eye and have a certain aesthetic identity.

My riding experience so far is that it's an easy bike to live with. It's climbing prowess was a surprise for sure, both long fireroad climbs and tech are handled very well. I'd say it's efficient rather than sporty, but big days out are no problem.

Going down it's a litlte beast, but one I have to get used to, as it's very different from the 140mm hardtail I've been riding for the last 6 years. It prefers higher speeds where it feels snappy and encourages getting creative. At slow speeds like in akward, unfamiliar rockgardens I feel less confident, like being too high from the ground. There are some turns at lower to medium speeds that the front feels a bit twitchy. I suspect this is related to the 44mm offset of my fork, as Privateer spec a 37mm offset on their build. I will play with cockpit settings to see if there's room for improvement, as I don't plan to get a new fork anytime soon. The feeling goes away when the bike is properly leaned over though, so my technique could be lacking as well. I'm a terrible jumper but it feels very stable in the air and landings are forgiving despite my lack of technique.

The Float X shock has been easy to setup without getting lost on settings. Run it at 25% sag and it pedals well, absorbs bumps and hasn't yet bottomed out. I sometimes add or remove a click of rebound depeding on conditions/trail. Bob is non existent in seated pedalling and I only use the firm switch on very steep climbs or on the road.

PRs have started to appear on Strava, but I admit I'm still riding defensively and haven't let the bike do it's thing yet. In the sections I've let go it has shined though, so the potential is certainly there. Traditionally I need a few months to gel with a new bike, so it's still early for conclusions.

Overall a good choice for what I wanted out of my next bike and honestly, pricing and availability didn't allow for many alternatives. My other choice was the Transition Scout alu, but it was 300-400€ more and with uncertain delivery time.

Posted: Jun 22, 2022 at 8:04 Quote
It's beautifully smooth and solid on rough descents but so was my old last gen Specialised SX and that was also 9lb+!


 
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