2023 Transition Smuggler... is it real?

PB Forum :: Transition
2023 Transition Smuggler... is it real?
Author Message
flag mjscyclery
Posted: Apr 22, 2023 at 12:44 Quote
FWIW SRAM has a sale on some shocks we may be interested in.

Rear Shock Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil RCT - (210X55) MReb/MComp, 320lb Theshold Standard Standard (Coil Spring sold separately) - A2

00.4118.307.004

Dealer cost is about $100 off, I'm going to order one and see how the Super Smuggler works.


Anyone looking to swap out their Fox damper they have the Air 210 X 50 on sale also.


00.4118.306.006

Rear Shock Super Deluxe Ultimate RCT - (210X50) DebonAir, 2 Tokens, MReb/MComp, 320lb Theshold, Standard Standard - B2
flag bayride
Posted: Apr 22, 2023 at 15:53 Quote
Is this a specific tune for the smuggler?

I've got a 210x55 0L1 LNL32SS C1.
00.4118.358.004-1
Will this work?
flag mjscyclery
Posted: Apr 22, 2023 at 16:02 Quote
bayride wrote:
Is this a specific tune for the smuggler?

I've got a 210x55 0L1 LNL32SS C1.
00.4118.358.004-1
Will this work?

The ones I referenced are pretty generic tunes.
flag Buggyr333
Posted: Apr 29, 2023 at 17:15 Quote
matwilliams wrote:
photo

All Country Smuggler in progress

Did you happen to weigh that alloy frame when you had it apart?
flag skiahh
Posted: Apr 29, 2023 at 23:53 Quote
Everyone's asking how this compares to the Spur or Sentinel. What I want to know is how it compares to my 2018 Smuggler?

Anyone come from a previous gen Smuggler been on this one yet? How do they compare?

I love my carbon Smuggler (2018 ), but this looks pretty amazing. Then again, I liked the Gen 1 Sentinel but could never get the Gen 2 to feel right for me, so didn't get one.

I'd love to know how this compares to the Gen 2 Smuggler from a former owner.
flag Jbywater
Posted: May 1, 2023 at 8:07 Quote
Anybody running a coil on the new smuggler? Good idea or no?
flag matwilliams
Posted: May 2, 2023 at 12:17 Quote
Buggyr333 wrote:
matwilliams wrote:
photo

All Country Smuggler in progress

Did you happen to weigh that alloy frame when you had it apart?

Not yet, will do it when I get chance, not built up yet, waiting on the forks...

photo
flag ascdesigns
O+
Posted: May 3, 2023 at 12:11 Quote
Just recently sold my 2018 Smuggler Carbon since I scored a deal on a new (used for a month) 2023 Smuggler Carbon frame. I had little/no intention on buying the 2023 frame, especially at full price, since I had also put a Cascade rocker link on the 2018 late last year. But the deal came along so I pulled the trigger.

With the Cascade link on the 2018, the difference is incremental but noticeable going to the 2023. The 2023's geo definitely feels/rides slightly longer (reach is up 10mm and chainstays grew 5mm along with -1 deg or so head angle) and prob the reason why it feels more stable/planted, but not too damped in any way. The "pop" is definitely still there and also incrementally increased - took a little tweaking of the knobs/psi to get it right (FWIW, I'm 165lbs and my FloatX is set at ~200 psi, rebound 8/12, LSC 3/10 from closed). My 2018 was over-forked at 150mm and had a factory DPX2, Cascade link made rear travel 130mm from 120mm. My 2023 is also over-forked at 150mm, the rear shock is stock factory FloatX at 130mm.

If you don't have the Cascade link, I feel that the difference between the stock 2018 and 2023 will be significant. My recommendation is if you're generally happy with your 2018, throw the Cascade link on there - that's the biggest bang for your buck and bumps the travel to 130mm, progression to 21% from 11%. If you have the means, and/or a screaming deal to get a new 2023, that's the 'happy path' to get all the latest updates.

Hope that helps give a little perspective between the two models.


skiahh wrote:
Everyone's asking how this compares to the Spur or Sentinel. What I want to know is how it compares to my 2018 Smuggler?

Anyone come from a previous gen Smuggler been on this one yet? How do they compare?

I love my carbon Smuggler (2018 ), but this looks pretty amazing. Then again, I liked the Gen 1 Sentinel but could never get the Gen 2 to feel right for me, so didn't get one.

I'd love to know how this compares to the Gen 2 Smuggler from a former owner.
flag matwilliams
Posted: May 27, 2023 at 14:00 Quote
Alloy, large frame, no shock

Transition Smuggler alloy weight
flag Pdrenth
Posted: Jun 5, 2023 at 13:55 Quote
Curious if anyone has experience on the new Smuggler and how it compares to the Yeti SB130. I found the 130 to be great until things got chunky/choppy, in which case the rear end felt like it was locked out. How does the new Smuggler handle roots and other high-frequency trail chatter? And does how efficient does it feel compared to a Sentinel or bigger bike?
flag Squirrel-155
Posted: Jun 5, 2023 at 21:58 Quote
Pdrenth wrote:
Curious if anyone has experience on the new Smuggler and how it compares to the Yeti SB130. I found the 130 to be great until things got chunky/choppy, in which case the rear end felt like it was locked out. How does the new Smuggler handle roots and other high-frequency trail chatter? And does how efficient does it feel compared to a Sentinel or bigger bike?


Bikers Edge referenced the 130 a bit in their review.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYlX7FDVQMw
flag matwilliams
Posted: Jun 25, 2023 at 1:08 Quote
Alloy Super Smuggler V1, unfortunately couldn't get a good chainline with my M980's so M9100's are inbound...

Transition Smuggler

Smuggler Alloy size L
Rockshox Lyrik Ultimate 150mm
Rockshox Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil 140mm
Offset bushings Brass Bushing kit
Spank 359 rims
I9 hydra hubs
SAPIM DLight spokes f / Race spokes r
DT Swiss Prolock Nipples
Panaracer Aliso HO f
Panaracer Romero ST r
Reserve Fillmore valves
Panaracer sealant and tape
XTR chain
XTR 10-45 Cassette
XTR derailleur/shifter
XTR Levers
XTR Hoses
XTR Rotors
XTR Bottom bracket
Saint calipers
XTR Titanium caliper bolts
DMR ODub bars
DMR Deathgrip galaxy grips
SPANK Split Rasta Stem
Chromag Trailmaster LTD Ti saddle
BX Ascend 200mm dropper
BX V2 lever
DMR Sect seat clamp
SPANK Oozy trail pedals
flag tsewhsoj
O+
Posted: Jun 25, 2023 at 8:33 Quote
Nice build! What's the total weight? Did you happen to weight the frame itself?

matwilliams wrote:
Alloy Super Smuggler V1, unfortunately couldn't get a good chainline with my M980's so M9100's are inbound...

Transition Smuggler

Smuggler Alloy size L
Rockshox Lyrik Ultimate 150mm
Rockshox Super Deluxe Ultimate Coil 140mm
Offset bushings Brass Bushing kit
Spank 359 rims
I9 hydra hubs
SAPIM DLight spokes f / Race spokes r
DT Swiss Prolock Nipples
Panaracer Aliso HO f
Panaracer Romero ST r
Reserve Fillmore valves
Panaracer sealant and tape
XTR chain
XTR 10-45 Cassette
XTR derailleur/shifter
XTR Levers
XTR Hoses
XTR Rotors
XTR Bottom bracket
Saint calipers
XTR Titanium caliper bolts
DMR ODub bars
DMR Deathgrip galaxy grips
SPANK Split Rasta Stem
Chromag Trailmaster LTD Ti saddle
BX Ascend 200mm dropper
BX V2 lever
DMR Sect seat clamp
SPANK Oozy trail pedals
flag matwilliams
Posted: Jun 25, 2023 at 9:46 Quote
tsewhsoj wrote:
Nice build! What's the total weight? Did you happen to weight the frame itself?

Cheers buddy. Bare frame weighs 3.89kg without shock
flag tsewhsoj
O+
Posted: Jun 25, 2023 at 10:51 Quote
Nice, just a bit lighter than my large alloy sentinel v2! What did it end up weighing all built up?
matwilliams wrote:
tsewhsoj wrote:
Nice build! What's the total weight? Did you happen to weight the frame itself?

Cheers buddy. Bare frame weighs 3.89kg without shock

 


Copyright © 2000 - 2024. Pinkbike.com. All rights reserved.
dv56 0.020083
Mobile Version of Website