White Dirt jumper 3's... The Best Forks at hide and seek EVER... Help!!

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White Dirt jumper 3's... The Best Forks at hide and seek EVER... Help!!
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flag emubritish
Posted: Nov 12, 2007 at 18:58 Quote
siders wrote:
look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzocchi right look at the statment that is identical to what i said "Until 2007, fork production was based in Italy (apart from the entry level OEM parts, which are produced by the Japanese SunTour in Taiwan). From 2008 on, all forks will be made in Taiwan." o well shut the f*ck up have you worked in a bike shop no well i have so dont tell me what is right and what wrong

just because you work in a shop doesnt make you a god of knowledge... entry level forks are made by suntour, and those are the mz and exr series along with the dirt-jam, as well as the dj4 (which is a dirt jam pro with different stickers)

if you look at a dj3 and a dj2 the only difference is the dropouts and the steerer, the dj3 has qr dropouts and a steel steerer, while the dj2 has a 20mm axle and an alloy steerer.

now, oem forks and parts are FOR THE MOST PART identical to aftermarket parts, with just a few exceptions. the most obvious one is the totem stocked on demo 7 IIs, which is really a totem exterior with the speedstack internals from a boxxer. now, considering they had to say in the parts spec that it was specifically made for specialized, i doubt any company would be able to pawn off cheap shit as the real deal.

i wouldnt be surprised if the dirt jam were made by suntour, as they are not in the marz catalog, the dj 3 is, and it wouldnt make sense for them to put something they didnt make in their catalog.
flag siders
Posted: Nov 13, 2007 at 9:22 Quote
but the thing is Marzocchi oem forks are made bu suntor yes ?? are we still disputing this which are crap. name me one good suntour fork ??? have suntour made one good product ? the answer is no. they use thinner lowers and suntour internals and they look the same from the outside but are totaly difrent in valving and how they work jus about every think is difrent inside where is counts and they are made on the cheap they usualy use lower that dont come in the tolarances of the standerd forks eg dj 1 ect so they use them on the oem product's its a way of them amking cash and not haivng to throw things a way that why chris king make salt and pepper shakers out of ther hub shels that dont meet standerds its a way to still make cash of defective products
flag ezekiel
Posted: Nov 13, 2007 at 12:09 Quote
siders wrote:
but the thing is Marzocchi oem forks are made bu suntor yes ?? are we still disputing this which are crap. name me one good suntour fork ??? have suntour made one good product ? the answer is no. they use thinner lowers and suntour internals and they look the same from the outside but are totaly difrent in valving and how they work jus about every think is difrent inside where is counts and they are made on the cheap they usualy use lower that dont come in the tolarances of the standerd forks eg dj 1 ect so they use them on the oem product's its a way of them amking cash and not haivng to throw things a way that why chris king make salt and pepper shakers out of ther hub shels that dont meet standerds its a way to still make cash of defective products

Can you back any of this up?
flag cdavis
Posted: Nov 13, 2007 at 12:27 Quote
siders wrote:
but the thing is Marzocchi oem forks are made bu suntor yes ?? are we still disputing this which are crap. name me one good suntour fork ??? have suntour made one good product ? the answer is no. they use thinner lowers and suntour internals and they look the same from the outside but are totaly difrent in valving and how they work jus about every think is difrent inside where is counts and they are made on the cheap they usualy use lower that dont come in the tolarances of the standerd forks eg dj 1 ect so they use them on the oem product's its a way of them amking cash and not haivng to throw things a way that why chris king make salt and pepper shakers out of ther hub shels that dont meet standerds its a way to still make cash of defective products

1) Back any point of this up and I'll believe you.

2) Please god learn how to type.
flag siders
Posted: Nov 14, 2007 at 8:12 Quote
well windwave wich are the importer of the forks to the uk said to me on the phone when i was find out for a customer they told me that oem are just the cheaper versions of the fork and if you can aford it get the standerd once
flag speedc
Posted: Nov 27, 2007 at 13:29 Quote
i sent a email t marzocchi asking if the dj3 oem is madein taiwan and they said that this fork is made in the suntour factory but they are made in an special facility with italian specialist so the quality is not afected.
flag siders
Posted: Nov 28, 2007 at 9:17 Quote
well well have to get used to it as they will all be made in tiwan next year
flag fourcrosser
Posted: Nov 28, 2007 at 9:29 Quote
siders wrote:
look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzocchi right look at the statment that is identical to what i said "Until 2007, fork production was based in Italy (apart from the entry level OEM parts, which are produced by the Japanese SunTour in Taiwan). From 2008 on, all forks will be made in Taiwan." o well shut the f*ck up have you worked in a bike shop no well i have so dont tell me what is right and what wrong

You guys do understand that wikipedia is not an academic source right? Anyone who can fog a mirror and take up space can contribute to wikipedia. Therefore, their facts are merely based on opinions or someone's "knowledge". Even if the information is not correct, it still gets published as wikipedia is an online database. I have had my fair share of fun on wikipedia with bullshitting an article with a friend and we put pictures in it to make it look legitimate and the information had some huge discrepancies in it and we still managed to get thousands of hits on it even though our information was misleading and outright wrong and anybody who would have checked with another source would have noticed this immediately. We even labeled a picture of the human heart wrong by mixing up all the chambers and no one bothered to send us a message saying we made a mistake. Don't use wikipedia for anything as it is useless and some of the facts are very questionable however, there are some articles that offer a truthful insight but the majority of articles are pure crap.
flag Haarlem
Posted: Jun 4, 2008 at 16:09 Quote
siders wrote:
look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzocchi right look at the statment that is identical to what i said "Until 2007, fork production was based in Italy (apart from the entry level OEM parts, which are produced by the Japanese SunTour in Taiwan). From 2008 on, all forks will be made in Taiwan." o well shut the f*ck up have you worked in a bike shop no well i have so dont tell me what is right and what wrong

"FROM 2008 ONWARDS ALL thats ALL! FORKS WILL BE MADE IN TAIWAN" and working in halfords building apollo's dont register as a bike shop you arse!, you talk more crap then crap itself!
flag Haarlem
Posted: Jun 4, 2008 at 16:13 Quote
siders wrote:
well windwave wich are the importer of the forks to the uk said to me on the phone when i was find out for a customer they told me that oem are just the cheaper versions of the fork and if you can aford it get the standerd once

ahahaha sorry mate another reply.... ur only 16.... youv not worked in a real bike shop nor have you been out on a customer order as you wont be old enough to drive... closest you'll get to ordering something is using ur mothers bank card! ARSE... i hate bullshitters and gobshites!
flag caravanking
Posted: Jun 5, 2008 at 9:00 Quote
Haarlem wrote:
siders wrote:
look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzocchi right look at the statment that is identical to what i said "Until 2007, fork production was based in Italy (apart from the entry level OEM parts, which are produced by the Japanese SunTour in Taiwan). From 2008 on, all forks will be made in Taiwan." o well shut the f*ck up have you worked in a bike shop no well i have so dont tell me what is right and what wrong

"FROM 2008 ONWARDS ALL thats ALL! FORKS WILL BE MADE IN TAIWAN" and working in halfords building apollo's dont register as a bike shop you arse!, you talk more crap then crap itself!
i work in halfords-its ok but everything is sooo basic and depressing-apollos arnt the worst bikes-shockwaves are, they just break all the time and i got one with a wheel that was soo untrue so i had to run repares before i even started.
flag sharvan
Posted: Jun 5, 2008 at 9:05 Quote
Haarlem wrote:
siders wrote:
look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzocchi right look at the statment that is identical to what i said "Until 2007, fork production was based in Italy (apart from the entry level OEM parts, which are produced by the Japanese SunTour in Taiwan). From 2008 on, all forks will be made in Taiwan." o well shut the f*ck up have you worked in a bike shop no well i have so dont tell me what is right and what wrong

"FROM 2008 ONWARDS ALL thats ALL! FORKS WILL BE MADE IN TAIWAN" and working in halfords building apollo's dont register as a bike shop you arse!, you talk more crap then crap itself!

Hey man,

Here's the old forum http://vpfree.pinkbike.com/bb/ maybe you should go there, and dig up posts even older then this one tup
flag jason6197
Posted: Feb 3, 2009 at 5:43 Quote
i no a place its in high wycombe ill get the number and post it for you Smile
flag Chris14141414
Posted: Aug 12, 2009 at 11:28 Quote
hey guys my name is Chris ive just put up a pair of those so serch for them their brand new!!!! Smile
flag Taken
Posted: Aug 12, 2009 at 15:28 Quote
Cool story Chris

 


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