10 of the Wildest and Weirdest Mountain Bike Stories from 2020

Dec 28, 2020
by James Smurthwaite  
It has been a wild year in mountain biking, but as always a host of colourful, confusing and downright crazy stories have helped us get through all the madness. Here are 10 of the best from a topsy-turvy year:

Spengle's $13,000 Gold Leaf Wheels

Mountain bikers are no strangers to high prices, but Spengle took that to another level earlier this year with its one-of-a-kind 24ct gold wheels. The process took nearly a year to complete as it was all done by hand and Spengle describes the final result as a rideable work of art.

Pius Brauchart, Spengle CEO said: “The bicycle wheel represents a unique visual canvas – kinetic art in its most pure form. Art and sport are both deep passion points and with Spengle Gold we saw an opportunity to blend these two worlds together. There’s something very compelling in mixing the traditional craftsmanship of hand-laid gold leaf with cutting edge materials science, and it has resulted in a visually stunning wheel.”

More info, here.

Pedal Powered Appliances

COVID sparked a boom in bicycles but we think some may have taken their pedal passion a bit too far this year. Kicking it off are the students of the Dalian Nationalities University, who designed the Bike Washing Machine.

A rider's pedalling causes the drum of the washing machine to rotate and, at the same time, the extra electriciy generated can be used to power the display screen or stored for future use.

Not to be outdone, Stefan Mueller converted his bike into a lawnmower so he could keep fit, do chores and obey lockdown at the same time.

More info, here.

Great-Grandmother Fights off Bike Thief

A 72-year-old Great Grandmother made headlines when she was able to fight off a 23-year-old bike thief who was trying to sell her a stolen Lapierre X-Control. The thief entered her shop hoping to sell the bike for £150 but Mari Parker had seen it was stolen according to a Facebook post.

Speaking to the Daily Mail, Mari said: "A couple of customers came out to help but I was worried about what would happen with them so I told them to leave it to me and that they should call the police. But I refused to let go. I knew a young boy was coming back for his bike and I couldn't tell them we didn't have it."

The bike was returned to Luke Hodson, 13. His grandfather said: "He is over-the moon to get his bike back. It is his pride and joy. He rides it everywhere. I think Mari was wonderful, for a 72-year-old to do that is so heroic. They could have had a knife or even pushed her over. she is so brave. My admiration knows no bounds."

More info, here.

The Single Sided, Carbon, DIY Linkage Fork

Ashley Kalym homemade linkage fork.

A new addition to our DIY Hall of Fame this year was Ashley Kalym with his 160mm-travel single-sided, carbon fiber linkage fork. Ashley doesn't have an engineering background, but spent three years learning CAD with online resources to bring his project to life. Kalym wanted his fork to offer anti-dive abilities, and to increase trail as it goes into its travel to stabilize handling, neither of which are possible when using stanchion tubes, so the Rocksled was born.

He has now updated the fork to include a four-way adjustable floating brake arm and has even built a frame around the fork to best showcase its abilities. More info, here.

Bill Murray's Jeep e-MTB Superbowl Ad

Jeep revealed that it would be entering the eMTB market after discreetly teasing a new utility bike during their Superbowl ad that featured Bill Murray.The dual suspension eMTB only makes an appearance for a few seconds of the ad that sees Murray return to Groundhog Day in Pittsburgh.

It was later revealed that the bike, which is made in partnership with QuietKat, is claimed to be the 'most powerful' eMTB ever produced and has a 750w motor. The Bafang M620 unit, which drives the bike, is claimed to be able to create 160Nm of torque, which is way more than you ever need for a bicycle. For reference, a Suzuki Hayabusa has 155Nm. Other than the seemingly powerful motor, the Jeep bike will also feature an inverted fork (despite the ad showing a more standard offering). Adding to the odd selection of parts are huge 4.8" tires.

More info, here.

Simon Cowell Break his Back and Reportedly Considers Suing e-Motorbike Company

Earlier in the year, mainstream media fell over itself reporting on Simon Cowel''s broken back sustained while riding a supposed e-bike. There was just one problem, this wasn't a 250 Watt pedelec bike but a 15,000 Watt motorbike with a top speed of 60mph. It's a shame that e-bikes got caught in the crossfire and painted as dangerous here but Cycling Tips did a great takedown of the media response that's well worth a read.

Since then, it has emerged that Cowell is now considering suing the brand that produces the bikes with a figure as high as £10 million being floated by legal observers to cover pain, suffering and lost income from missing several television appearances. More info, here.

Alutech's Grim Clonut

Not a donut.

The Grim Donut definitely caused a stir when it broke cover in January. While we made you all wait a while for part 2, Alutech made its own version to see just how effective our geometry experiment was.

The bike's geometry was pretty close to the Donut's dimensions - even the 500mm reach number is the same, although the Pinkbike machine still has a steeper seat tube angle at 83-degrees and longer, 450mm chainstays. Jürgen Schlender, the owner of Alutech, promised a ride review although we haven't yet seen one on his social media. He probably turned his attention to [L=https://www.pinkbike.com/news/alutech-releases-16000-emtb-with-cncd-frame.html]€16,000 e-mtb projects instead[/L].

More info, here.

Magura's (Almost) External Cable Free Bike

The MCi Conceptbike from Magura had one of the cleanest cockpits we've ever seen with no handlebar cables and only the only visible cable on the bike being a front brake cable emerging from underneath the stem to route down the fork.

The MCi uses a cylinder in each end of the handlebar that includes the piston and the reservoir. Cables are then fed down the handlebar and into the proprietary stem. The front brake hose drops through a hole in the stem and down the fork leg to the caliper while the rear brake hose goes directly into the frame from the stem via a headset bearing. Gearing comes from SRAM AXS and Magura's own Vyron wireless dropper post completes the build.

More info, here.

Zip on Tyres

It was always going to be in here, right? ReTyre's zip on tyres claim to solve a problem that doesn't really exist and offer the ability to change your tyre tread on the fly. The base tyre is a slick road tread and then different treads for different conditions can be zipped over the top to change the handling of the bike. ReTyre say: "the zippers are specially developed to handle extreme and harsh environments and have the same life expectancy as the tyre" and that they have been placed specifically so there won't be high forces loading on them.

Still intrigued? You can read more about them, here.

Bougie Baby Bikes

Mondraker bought e-mtbs to toddlers for the first time in 2020 as it released its Grommy strider bike. Mondraker have designed a 250W brushless motor with a throttle input with three power modes - ‘Balance’ (max speed 8.1km/h, 5mph), ‘Fun’ (max 12.1km/h, 7.5mph) and ‘Advanced’ (max 17.7km/h, 11mph). Mondraker has tried to make the bikes as light as possible and, using mostly components designed in house, these bikes tip the scales at 8.5kg (18.7lb) for the Grommy 16 and 7.5kg for the Grommy 12 (16.5lb).

Grommy will be available to buy from regular Mondraker dealers starting from an estimated retail price of 749€ and comes with a 2-year warranty.

Specialized also got in on the action with its $999 carbon Hotwalk bike. This is the lightest ever bike Specialized have produced at 4.63lb (2.1kg), and also its cheapest ever carbon bike too.

The frame, fork, handlebar and wheels are all carbon and the Rhythm Lite tires have also been redesigned for lightness on this bike with the aim of making it as maneuvrable as possible for young shredders. Specialized has also spent some time desigining some kid-specific features on this bike including handlebars that have a 38% smaller diameter, a handle under the saddle for parents to use to carry the bike.

More info, here.

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  • 159 1
 Magura Customers - Can you design a bleed screw that's not made out of playdough?
Magura Engineers - Nein! We have more important things to do!
  • 34 1
 A plastic wood screw with a 0.5nm torque rating. Good news is I have a lot of spares. Bad news is I need to have a lot of spares.
  • 38 2
 Or just one brake lever that works instead of 20 variations.
  • 13 0
 Also where the replacement "thermoplastic" screw doesn't cost $10.
  • 13 4
 I could be wrong, but I think they make the screw super soft for two reasons, one so that if you over torque it it doesn’t strip out the lever body. And two so it doesn’t leak the soft plastic the forms and seals up nice and tight
  • 7 1
 While they're at it a master cylinder that's not made of playdough would be nice too. Pirate
  • 27 4
 Stop being so ham fisted, its not like the bleed port screw holds the fork on.
  • 5 1
 @getsomesy: luckily someone warned me not to over tighten it, otherwise I probably would have stripped it.

Pretty easy once you know how brittle it is. Finger tight plus a little bit. Their premium offering should have a billet master though. Mt7 is a ripoff. Mt5 over xt any day though.
  • 3 6
 Yes!!! Give it to them! And lets face it, Magura's may work well when properly bled, but they do require more frequent bleeding than many other brakes.
  • 2 0
 @lukazy: Have they ever heard of an o-ring?
  • 3 1
 Leave the 1/2 inch drive ratchet in the toolbox. I'm especially ham fisted and have never stripped one of these.
  • 2 0
 since i had to deal alot with formula lately i stopped hating on magura a bit Smile
  • 6 3
 @getsomesy: Once I build a 7k€ custom bike up for a friend, it was almost finished before holidays and the last step was bleeding the brakes. the ******* screw died while opening (!) it for the first time. Head shorn clearly off. Since I normally run shimano I had no spares around and the bike was left idling in the workshop.

So it is not about being "ham fisted" but about a retarded solution of simple enough problem.
  • 5 2
 Who are the people downvoting these comments? People who never worked on Magura?
Stop being offended on behalf of the product. Such well deserved customer criticism is how products improve.
  • 2 4
 @foxinsocks: Pre-2010 human civilization called, it wants it's expected cultural adult norm back.
  • 2 1
 @Chuckolicious: I think you should have your water tested for lead content.
  • 3 0
 @Chuckolicious: not quite sure i got your point, honestly.
I admit I don't really know what paradigm shift the cultural norm underwent specifically in 2010, nor do I see myself as an adult...
  • 3 0
 @foxinsocks: maguras are moderately harder to bleed than others but do not require frequent bleeding. It took me a couple tries when I first got them but now have zero issues. If you can't bleed a set of maguras it's user error, take them to a shop
  • 2 2
 @foxinsocks: The culture of being offended by the most innocuous and unimportant stuff, as well as being offended at anything that might be critical of your chosen tribe, regardless of merit. IMO, really happened around 2010, though maybe a few years earlier.
  • 3 0
 @fiatpolski: So thats why shigura is a thing!
  • 1 0
 @friendlyfoe: tell that to my cracked tailbone after a failed manual on an mt5 that was brand new and bled twice in the shop... Smile
I actually bleed my brakes myself and indeed most of my magura bleeds were successful. But ive seen enough mechanics who botched bleeds on magura (and formulas, for that matter)
  • 1 1
 @Chuckolicious: hehe in that case i agree. Though i got a feeling this P.C behavior is a little more subtle on my neck of the woods...
  • 1 0
 @Helmchentuned: that shouldnt happen, bummer!
  • 1 0
 @foxinsocks: sorry I really should have said take it to a good shop lol. Seriously yours may be great but there really are a lot of bad shops who would struggle to bleed a set of maguras.

With mine it seems like there is a ton of air that gets trapped in the master because I can push pull all I want but as soon as I pull the lever there are a million little micro bubbles that take forever to get out completely. It's definitely a bit of faff but there aren't a whole lot of options in the same price range.
  • 2 0
 @friendlyfoe: I found Magura simple to bleed? Funnel on the lever with some fluid, syringe with some fluid pushing from caliper. Lever/master cylinder perpendicular with floor and caliper at lowest point oriented for best air escape. Same technique works for me on Shimano.
  • 1 0
 @foxinsocks: sounds like you need a better shop.
I bled 2 magura brakes in about 10 minutes total in my kitchen last night.
  • 1 0
 @friendlyfoe: I also bled a set last night, I've done it many times problem free, however had same problem as you this time- endless small bubbles. Loosened and retightened bottom bleed screw (yup there's 2), problem solved.
  • 1 0
 @50percentsure: Yeah I've noticed that too but wasn't sure if by cracking the caliper screw if I was introducing air or releasing trapped air. The Mt5 at least can be a bit fussy but you just have to be patient and take your time. Considering I only do it once or twice a year it's worth it considering how much better they are than shimano!
  • 1 0
 @derTetris: which formula brakes? the lastest brakes? Cura and Cura 4? if so what's wrong?
  • 97 26
 Top things that made me cringe in 2020:

1- Soya boys filming while a grandma fights a thief.
2- Wealthy middle aged men who buy dangerous toys, then sue when they get hurt.
3- The mere idea of working on a 'external routing free' bike.

  • 35 2
 That #1 tho.... how on earth could grown men continue to watch an elderly woman do that without stepping in and helping her? Secondly, that was a polite thief.... any bike thief in the US would have punched her without hesitation.... and still probably wouldn't get any charges.
  • 31 23
 @Avanwin: can't risk those lower crime rates by reporting actual crime, best to just redefine all activity to fall within the constrictions of legal behavior! Let's go LA and SF!

  • 3 0
 in the video it says she told them to stay back still not really an excuse though, could have easily bonked him into the ground with 3 people
  • 2 1
 @TotalAmateur: Works for CoD in may regions as well.......
  • 1 0
 @Avanwin: Maybe the bike was half off and a steal of a deal!!
  • 5 7
 Pink Bike turning into a click bait for $$$ site an starting losing legitimacy as a news site. Might as well be facebook......
  • 2 0
 @TotalAmateur: Thought you were talking about Seattle... Blank Stare
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flag TotalAmateur (Dec 29, 2020 at 8:06) (Below Threshold)
 @JustAnotherRiderHere: it's the inverse tactic of Covid. If we blame everything as COVID related, then it seems way worse and we can enforce lockdowns without pushback. Also, if we ignore all crimes then crime rates plummet. YAY LIBERALS.
  • 1 1
 @mtbikeaddict: might as well be lol
  • 2 3
 @TotalAmateur: FACT MONGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 5 4
 @TotalAmateur: Were you born this way, or were you dropped on your head?
  • 4 5
 @TotalAmateur: It is astounding to me how many of these ignorant people in nations around the world do not see the logical comparison between current governmental tactics and those that were occurring in 1930s Germany. Trust them, it is for your own good...
  • 2 4
 @JustAnotherRiderHere: yup, I love how the state of the left went from counter culture and authority to complete authoritarian and partisan politics.
  • 3 4
 @m1dg3t: ahh the old "can't refute so i'll insult" tactic, known and used on playgrounds and college campuses everywhere.
  • 7 3
 @TotalAmateur: LoL Awwww aren't you a cute little victim! The support group is around the corner...
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flag TotalAmateur (Dec 29, 2020 at 14:12) (Below Threshold)
 @m1dg3t: thanks for proving my point XD
  • 3 2
 @TotalAmateur: you just remember, my mom can beat up your dad. If there was still a monkey bars I would ask you to meet me by them but they have been banned because too many week children got a bruise on their knee...
  • 73 0
 With the pedal washing machine, how would you ever wash your workout cloths?
  • 123 0
 you film an onlyfans video while you do it in the nude, use the cash to buy bike parts
  • 8 0
 Pedal nude obviously!!
  • 7 0
 There is an entire Mr Bean episode that ponders exactly this.
  • 2 0
 @p0zi: Ahead of his time really!
  • 12 0
 Friday fails "went out without zipping up" edition.
A whole new take on embarrassment.
  • 2 0
 Many layers of failure involved there.
  • 12 0
 The lawn mover HTA looks way too steep. Needs to be way slacker.
  • 11 0
 Outdated lawnmower geometry.
  • 42 0
 and more rake.
  • 5 0
 So much for cutting edge...
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  • 2 0
 Now Bobby....
  • 1 0
 @Stihlgoin: Hey, I didn't go looking for trouble. Trouble came-a-knockin' and Bobby Hill's foot answered the door.
  • 9 0
 They are zip on tires only on flat ground. On rough trail they are zip off tires.
  • 7 0
 I still prefer the Neon Glitch Spengles, and they're so much cheaper! www.spengle.com/product/neon-glitch
  • 2 0
 Oh wow those are fantastic
  • 3 0
 The have a "30 day satisfaction guarantee", thats enough time to hang around a lot at ice cream or cappuccino bar (that's where you show of your bike in Germany and Italy)
  • 1 0
 look like a pice of Gary Busey's art Exhibition
  • 1 0
 Only 6500 euro for the win
  • 1 0
 Are Spengle wheels even real? I have yet to even see a review of them?
  • 3 0
 A mere $7300 us!!! A deal!
  • 2 0
 @excavator666: Nobody is actually go to ride a bike with those wheels that isn't a pristine venue. Those are for studio bikes and nothing more. Never going to see a single second of singletrack. Too much of a work of art for such abuse.
  • 3 0
 @excavator666: I thought of this when they first appeared. Some poor internet sleuthing pointed me to an office address in Switzerland, that is also an investment firm. Based on some huge assumptions I concluded it was not a scam, not a spoof, just some very rich person's folly.
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 @excavator666: a lot of people in my area got some as part of a lifestyle/sponsorship deal including a close friend.

They were ridiculously heavy once you added some rim protection and a tyre and they didn't look as cool in person as I had hoped.

One of the guys exploded the rear wheel whilst riding in the peaks but this failure was attributed to pre production model being used.

Newer wheels are more sturdy supremely but I can only imagine that's more weight
  • 1 0
 @tufty: What is a "lifestyle/sponsorship deal". I have never heard of such a thing. $10,000 a head isn't exactly chump change. Sounds like a marketing stunt to get brand/product exposure. Still though, who in their right mind is going to spend $10k on MTB wheels? You're pretty hard-pressed to be able to spend more than $3000 a wheelset for carbon as it is. That kind of price is out of reach for even the stereotypical crowd buying top tier MTBs. That kind of price is relegated to the millionaire/billionaire crowd.
  • 1 0
 @SuperHighBeam: You hit the nail on the head. They seemed to be targeting people with larger insta presences than race presence
  • 1 0
 @tufty: Must be, because that is just beyond craziness for a wheelset.
  • 5 2
 E-bikes ARE in fact more dangerous though, because they enable unexperienced riders to go at speeds which they shouldn't.

German traffic statistics show that only about 5% of all bicycles are E-Bikes. But if you ride an E-Bike, statistically you're over 200% more likely to have a fatal accident on one, compared to regular bicycles. Generally, the number of fatal traffic accidents in Germany declined in 2019 - in all vechicle categories except for E-Bikes, in which the number of fatal accidents increased by 32%.
  • 2 0
 Interesting. Got a link to that data? My anecdotal urban experience is that yes, people do seem to be going way too fast on them. But I'm smart enough to know not to pay attention to that and instead look for the data.
  • 1 0
 Yeah, that's my main issue with Ebikes too. The shop I work at rents them, and almost every customer crashes the bike. People should have to ride acoustic for the first year!
  • 1 0
 @Chonky13: Weird, how he never got back with a link to his claimed data.
  • 7 0
 where to even start
  • 2 0
 Summed up in four words...
  • 5 0
 Louis XIV's couriers have arrived bearing a missive requiring the immediate return of his gilded wheel
  • 5 0
 The zipper tire people can't even close a QR skewer properly, so I don't expect they can attach a tire properly either.
  • 2 0
 Hilarious ! However i have the ultimate weird Mtb story for 2020. One day last summer i put on my t shirt and shorts and rode my bike down into a canyon , well more like an indentation into the local topography , using my brakes all the way , stopped at the bottom , sat by the river for ten minutes and then rode back up the hill . Totally bizarre .
  • 2 1
 1): Go Grannies!! Bike thieves Die!

2): "There’s something very compelling in mixing the traditional craftsmanship of hand-laid gold leaf with cutting edge materials science, and it has resulted in a visually stunning wheel"

Maybe. But I still don't want 'em.

3): I want to mow the lawn now!
  • 3 0
 If the Alutech donut has a bottom bracket without the extreme drop of the Grim Donut, I wanna at least ride one. And then maybe buy it.
  • 2 0
 @Magura I see you and raise you one better hidden front brake hose.
Definitely a bit envious of those quick connectors though, so cheers guys!
  • 5 3
 Story no 1 for me: pinkbike decides to violently promote so called "e-bikes" using dry fisting method on their readers so they could appreciate and miss how subtle was campaign promoting boost etc.
  • 5 0
 "Dry fisted" LoL Ouch!
  • 2 1
 Love the hysterics.
  • 3 0
 @Chuckolicious: she loves you too.
  • 3 0
 How could that choad Simon Cowell possibly sue Recon, when he's already Tweeted that he "Didn't read the instructions?!!"

What a dufus!
  • 2 0
 He is a dufus. Can't stand him. Karma got to him I guess?
  • 6 2
 Zip on tires for the win....
  • 1 0
 I had forgotten about these. Made me giggle all over again.
  • 1 0
 Actually I think it is a shitty idea for someone looking for efficient dirt tires but if done well it can be a good idea in a commuter context when you occasionnally need studded tires like I did when living in Switzerland. Riding studded tires all winter for a few weeks of ice is not fun, cornering is sketchy on regular non icy tarmac, neither is swapping tire every other week. I relied on 2 sets of wheels because I had the space but I would have definitely tried that on my shitty winter beater had they been available.
  • 1 0
 I'd like to see someone legitimately try them. Cheaper than having 2 wheelsets for a commuter or gravel bike you take on the road. obviously heavier than 1 layer of tread, but presumably more puncture resistant. Zipper will probably be obliterated with 1 glancing rock blow...
  • 2 2
 is no one going to take the author here to task about the obvious lunacy of equating the power output of an Ebike to a Huyabusa?!?!?!?

I mean, aside from the idiocy here on it's face, just quoting Nm figures to make it seem like it's as powerful as one of the most powerful production motorcycles ON THE PLANET, is some bullshit. Like grade A, grows the best tomatoes, type of manure.
  • 4 2
 @conoat: Facts don't give a f*ck about your feelings. He stated it has more torque. Which it does. Man you are thick.
  • 2 1
 @m1dg3t: Plenty of tractors have far more torque than your average supercar, but it doesn't make them particularly dangerous. @conoat was simply pointing out that it is an irrelevant piece of information, included to be sensationalistic. That e-bike has 27 horsepower as opposed to a Hayabusa's 170; doesn't seem so powerful all of a sudden does it.
  • 2 4
 @LowBuckCanuck: You don't know enough for me to continue interacting with you.
  • 1 1
 @m1dg3t: Ok Ben Shapiro wannabe hahahah
  • 1 0
 You're (OUR will be always more apropiate) own Richard Cunningham nows a thing or two from his life at MBAction about the first one making a lawnmower bike...Please Richard can you talk?
  • 2 0
 Also did Sick Bike Co finally officially terminate this year or was that the back end of 2019?
  • 2 0
 why does the weird e-mx thing have magura brakes but a storm hc rotor up front and a sram rotor in the back
  • 2 0
 You mean the media blew something out of proportion with the wrong information? I've never heard of them doing such a thing.
  • 1 1
 The have a "30 day satisfaction guarantee", thats enough time to hang around a lot at ice cream or cappuccino bar (that's where you show of your bike in Germany and Italy)
  • 2 0
 Is this the list for the Pinkbike's Darwin Award for 2020?
  • 6 4
 How exactly is an emotorbike different from any other ebike?
  • 5 0
 In Europe anyway an ebike is limited to 25 kmph and only offers pedal assist, so no throttle. An emoto has to be registered as a motorbike to use onroad while an ebike can be used like a normal bike.
  • 3 1
 An ebike is an emotorbike with a block of wood under the throttle.
  • 1 0
 Situation of theft and the donut aside, for the rest the question that arises spontaneously is: F**K, WHY?
  • 1 0
 Am I mad or does that clonut look like its rocking a 26/29 wheel setup?
  • 1 0
 the picture is weird but if you zoom in the rear wheel says 27.5
  • 3 0
 Noway, covid killed off the last of the 26"rs
  • 1 0
 That interview with grandma is mesmerizing.
  • 1 0
 Did that "DICK" Cowell ever sue?
  • 9 12
 still cannot believe those two wankers who just stood there as that lady fought with that kid. They were too scared of getting their handbags dusty to do anything other than phone the police.
  • 3 0
 I question what most people would do in that situation. I know I just react and get in there lol but alot of people don't. They watch and over think.
  • 6 0
 @makripper: You'll love this: Last month a weed delivery guy parks in my driveway to deliver to a neighbor, no biggie, as my narrow street is a clusterf#&k to turn around in. He returns in a few minutes, drives 25 feet and then parks in my additional parking area, gets out of his car and starts wandering around before disappearing into yet another neighbor's yard. Now I'm genuinely curious, so I run outside and there he is, squatting in their front yard dropping a deuce. You haven't lived until you yell at someone, cutting them off mid s#&t. Made my day.
  • 4 0
 As a Brit I’m massively impressed with the usage of “wankers” in your post. It’s rarely utilised by Americans, bravo! The next adjective you should consider is c**t. This is most broadly used north of the border in Scotland, for example “Dave is a good c***” “Alright ya c***? Fancy a pint?”
  • 3 0
 @adamadey: As a Californian, I had a British girlfriend years ago who frequently used the word “tw@t” in public. I just let her do it, as the look on people’s faces was priceless. I’ll try your suggested use of “c**t” but I’m pretty sure I will continue to be slapped by any female within earshot.
  • 2 0
 @makripper: On the situation of "youth philosophy", I would like to hear the opinion of some WWII veteran, maybe even someone who escaped some concentration camp, just to understand what their "youth philosophy" was and with what determination and courage they fought . He's right @JakinM, we are in the world of wankers
  • 3 3
 @pk71: This is why China is winning, and to a lesser extent, Russia. The youth wanker phenomenon isn't nearly as prevalent in those cultures.
  • 2 0
 @pk71: I'm not sure you picked a good time period - If there ever was a time in Human/European history that is characterized by people looking the other way and staying in their comfort zone while evil has its' way - it was during WWII...
  • 1 0
 @foxinsocks: And who talked about Europe?
  • 2 0
 @foxinsocks:And even if I had talked about Europe, I remind you that the British, the French, but also the Italians (although not all) fought for themselves but also to free and save others, something I have never seen in other parts. of the world.
But what interests me is how they reacted after the war, the spirit with which they faced difficulties, the desire to create, produce, even to enrich themselves but not only for themselves.
  • 1 0
 @pk71: you're right, being a "world" war, it really affected people worldwide. Though Europe was mostly the epicenter. I guess i said Europe because you mentioned the concentration camps. Having talked to and heard the stories of many survivors, including being the first one on my family to hear my grandfather's horrible account, i can definitely tell you it puts EVERYTHING in our lives into perspective in a way which makes you reevaluate pretty much everything.

My point though was about complacency- dont think it wasn't a part of human nature back then, possibly even more than it is today. Men didnt just stand by and watched an older woman confont a mugger, you had thousands standing by as infants were shot and gassed...
As i said, perspective...
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