Vlad Dascalu is one of the rising stars of World Cup cross country and Albstadt saw him claim a second consecutive third place finish, which moves him up to fourth in the overall World Cup standings. He didn't have it easy, though. Dascalu only arrived at the venue on Friday due to illness so had to start on the fourth row of the grid. He battled forwards to be part of the front group after the first lap but just half a lap later, his saddle broke and he had to make a pitstop and lost about a minute. He fought back through the rest of the race and even launched an attack on the final climb in a bid for second but was closed out by Schurter by 1 second at the finish line. Dascalu was clearly one of the strongest riders of the race and without his mechanical he might have had the best chance of keeping up with Pidcock.
Dascalu published his full power data on Strava after the race so we decided to dig in to see what it takes to be a top World Cup pro.Headline StatsIn his 6 laps, Vlad covered the 25.54 km (15.85 miles) and 1,159 metres (3,800 feet) of elevation in just under 80 minutes.
Sauce for Strava (a plug in that allows for deeper data analysis of Strava files) lists his average power as 332 watts. The most common way to benchmark this is to use a measure called watts per kilogram. Pure watts isn't a great metric as generally heavier riders produce more power so to compare between riders it's best to include their weight as well.
Distance: 25.4km
Time: 1:19:10
Elevation: 1,159 metres
Average Speed: 19.4kmh
Average Power: 332W (4.55W/kg)
Normalized Power: 408W (5.59W/kg)
Doing this for Vlad's effort gives 4.5 W/kg, based on a weight of 73kg listed on Strava. How does this compare to a top road cyclists? Well, on the face of it, not too great - yesterday at the Giro D'Italia, riders will likely have put out more than 6 w/kg while climbing Mount Etna but that doesn't compare apples to apples.
Those riders will be aiming to keep a fairly consistent power for as long as possible, whereas Dascalu's effort is extremely peaky. Cross country racing also involves descents and a lot of corners and tech sections where you simply can't put out as much power as a measured consistent effort. On Sunday, Dascalu spent 27.4% of the race less pushing between 0 - 24W, which will definitely have brought his average power down from where it might have been were we looking at a time trial-style effort.
There are other metrics that can be calculated such as Normalised Power or Average Weighted Power (for Vlad these are 408 watts and 384 watts respectively) that are designed to better quantify a performance over a variable effort but even these can't take into account a race situation where Vlad may have been racing tactically or caught behind slower riders. Instead, we're going to get really granular and dip into specific parts of the race to see exactly what Vlad was doing.
The Start LapGetting a strong start is crucial in World Cup XC. You have to sprint hard to be in the front group otherwise bottlenecks and concertinas will see you a long way off the front of the race when the single-file singletrack sections start.
Vlad must have known this as he blitzed forward from his fourth row position. From a standing start, he pushed a maximum of 1,305 watts, which would be his peak power for the whole race. He actually makes efforts of over 1,000 watts three times in the first 200 metres of the race. Firstly off the line, then after negotiating some traffic in the bunch and finally accelerating back up to speed after the first corner. This is his biggest 15 second effort of the race, averaging 891 watts or 12.2W/kg. In total, Vlad spent 37 seconds in this race pushing 1,000+ watts and he spiked above it at various points throughout the race.
On the first climb of the first lap, Vlad also does his hardest sustained efforts of the race as well. From the base of the first climb, which averages 12.5%, Vlad does a 2 minute effort of 539 watts (7.4 W/kg), including a 1 minute effort of 630 watts (8.6W/kg) and a max of 1,029 watts. Unlike road cycling, there's no neutral zone at the start or 50km of easy riding to let the break escape, in cross country racing you're red lining from the gun and then trying to recover and race for the remaining gruelling 80 minutes.
Vlad's Fastest LapVlad's fastest time round the circuit came on lap 5 of 6. At 11:27.6, it was the third fastest lap of anyone, 1.6 seconds behind Alan Hatherly's fastest effort of the race. On his fastest lap, he averaged 345 watts (409 watts normalized power) as he chased back onto the lead group of Schurter, Carod and Hatherly. This is only slightly above his average power for the whole race and it shows that in cross country racing there's more than raw power to going fast. Sure, fitness is definitely a main ingredient but so is positioning, line choice, fuelling and spending your resources wisely.
The Last Lap AttackAfter catching up to the leaders, Dascalu juked it out with Schurter on the final ascent of the Mercedes Benz Uphill section for the silver medal. With a race worth of fatigue in his legs, he hits this two minute section at 490 watts (6.7 W/kg) with a max of 1,067 watts - about 49 watts (0.7W/kg) below his 2 minute max in the race. We don't have Nino's data here but following his smoother race weekend, it's no surprise that the Swiss veteran was able to hold off Dascalu in the run in to the finish.
How does this compare?So how does this compare to a pro road cyclist? Well, Sauce for Strava uses Dr Andy Coggan's power curve to give Vlad an 87% rating, equal to a professional level, but it's quite hard to compare between the two totally different types of effort.
This article suggests that a peak of 1,300 watts isn't too far off some World Tour sprinters max output, but they often have 100km plus in their legs, not sprinting off the line like Dascalu. We also doubt those sprinters could keep up with Dascalu up the short sharp climbs of Albstadt. Equally, you can't compare Dascalu to the pure climbers of the peloton as his data is all peaks and troughs, short sprinty efforts as opposed to the prolonged grinding up an Alpine pass.
A look back through, for example Mathieu van Der Poel's Strava, shows that
he might be a bit stronger on pure fitness but let's not forget the Dutchman took 3 years before he won an Olympic length World Cup race. While he might have had the power, he had to build up his skills and tactics until he could finally best his long-time rival Nino Schurter. It's the race craft, as well as the exceptional fitness, that sets the best cross country pros apart.
Riley Amos was on The Adventure Stash podcast last year and mentioned how on a World Cup weekend riders will do laps of the course for 2+ hours on Saturday between the short track and olympic races.
These days, I'm a very average rider in terms of fitness and yet I do a ride around Lake Constance (~200km) in one day a couple of times every season.
All I'm saying is that you guys should maybe reevaluate your standards on what is a crazy achievement on a bike. Maybe have a look at XC marathon races like the Cape Epic. Spoiler alert, they ride over 100km a day for 7 days straight and climb over 2000m vertical each day.
In all seriousness, I’m betting that these racers are completely thrashing themselves to win (since this is a one day race where they are emptying the tank, not pacing themselves on a multi day endurance race that you erroneously compared it to), so a 200km ride the next day is a large “recovery ride”. But go win a World Cup and ride that 200km the next day and report back to us, I’m interested to hear how it goes.
Look at BCBR, bunch of regular joes pounding out 7 strait 4-5 hour rides that are way harder then a road ride.
Nobody is saying that riding 200km is impossible, but it’s a big recovery ride after emptying your tank in a race at the top of the sport. People on here need to reevaluate and accept that most of you guys aren’t anywhere near the pro level, and talking tough is just funny.
Nobody said they are winning a world Cup race and then riding 200k at Toms pace. I can do it my pace no prob. If you can't do it at your pace then it sounds like you need to ride more. That's not a dig either, nobody is doing it on a whim but I bet you could work up to it this season. Not much else to say about that, it's riding a bike brah and the more you do it the more you can do it!
Now get out there and ride your bike.
Hard to say much about things that don't exist.
I’m pretty sure Pidcock was one of the riders who suffered least on Sundays XCO. Any rider that gets dropped is probably pushing himself further than the one that rides away with it and wins by a big margin.
We get it, you like that you’re “fit”.
Congrats on doing a thing that we don’t care about
As for @bouldertom you may be in the wrong sport. Why are you reading an article about racers being able to put out massive wattage if you think being "fit" is a "thing" "we" don't care about? The best way to describe your comment will soon be "Below Threshold".
Even worse if you are below average. Which of course, someone has to be.
Pardon the sarcasm, that just such a beta cuck insult.
(Sorry it took me a month to respond, I try not to waste my time with such stuff, but I had to sit on the toilet and figured I’d give you the response you wanted, cheers!)
For example, some deliver 85Nm at around 80 rpm, right? that gives 712W.
In Europe the max nominal power is 250W, seems like it's quite far from the actual max power.
I am guessing that if we saw power curves (in relation to rpm) this would appear pretty obviously.
Good workout though.
Today I think it is different, these guys can ride a lot better than most of us want to believe. Nino hitting that gap on his bike I would not even think of, then still doing it on the later laps when fatigue is setting in, that is impressive.
I can’t think of a specific reason we’re seeing more riders doing the multi-discipline thing again but it does make for compelling viewing.
I'm not sure if that's fueled by passion for sport or a financial necessity (or both). In any case, I like to think that PFP having 3 rainbow jerseys at the same time gave more, uhhh, "focused" riders something to strive for.
And Bob Roll is a wanker who can barely ride a bike on any terrain.
“ Some of Mike’s outstanding accomplishments include:
*European, World Cross Country Champion, Crans Montana Switzerland, 1988.
*2-times World Cup 2nd place overall 1989-90.
*Winner of several World Cup series races including the finals in Italy in 1988 and Switzerland in 1990.
*Silver medal in the Mammoth California World XC championships 1987.
*Silver Medallist in the Downhill World Championships 1990.
*Iditabike Alaska endurance race Champion 1988-89.”
Top riders are too riders, power output has to be really high for every discipline. Enduro and DH racers have a lower watt/kg ratio, but it’s because they have to have more upper body mass to throw the bike around.
At Vlad’s size, a 1300w sprint on a road bike would have him coming off a wheel at about 65kph (around 40mph). That’s impressive peak power for a non sprinter!!!
AG: www.pinkbike.com/photo/22560719
RVV: www.pinkbike.com/photo/22560730
Almost nobody can put out pro level watts, and when the watts are earned through thousands of hours of riding some skill accompanies the power.
The main problem for me is I ride off road, which means the data is a bit less comparable ride-to-ride.
"Pure watts isn't a great metric" - false >330w gets you moving regardless, mtb has high CRR so one could argue a light rider with a good w/kg may not actually have much of an advantage.
"put out more than 6 w/kg while climbing Mount Etna"...maybe but not for 90min
www.cyclisme-dopage.com/actualite/2021-07-17-cyclisme-dopage-com3.htm
Tadej Pogacar is obviously doped if you go through the analysis.
Vlad Dascalu at 1300 watts even for a short period of time and clean?
You can clearly wonder...