2010 Kona Stab Supreme - Exclusive look.

Aug 8, 2009
by Jordan Holmes  
Arguably the most talked about bike from Kona's line up is the Stab Supreme. The Stab Supreme sets the bar as Kona's high end downhill bike, and for 2010 it has not only lost some weight, but got some component changes, and frame refinements that make it a contender on the downhill scene for the 2010 race season.

Full Specs, Photos, Changes
2010 Kona Stab Supreme

2010 Kona Stab Supreme





Major Changes:
Reduced frame and component weight
-3 pound weight savings - 39.5 lbs final weight

Tapered 1.125" to 1.5" headtube
-Added strength with minimal weight penalty

New cold forged swing arm, yokes, head tube and bottom bracket
- Cold forging adds rigidity and durability.

New chainstay
-Lighter, and slimmer width wise.
-Added x brace internally for added rigidity.

Minor Changes:
New clear coat finish
-Can save up to a full pound off a frame
-Scratches are less noticeable

Component Changes:
Boxxer World Cup fork and Fox RC4 Rear Shock
32" Gravity Light Bar

Visual Changes:
Cleaner graphics, less flashy paintjob
Still kept a good component color match going on

Price
$5499
$5999
Travel
8"
8"
Rear Shock
Fox DHX 5.0
Fox DHX RC4
Fork
Marzocchi 888 RC3 World Cup 200mm
RockShox Boxxer World Cup 200mm w/20mm Dropouts
Headset
FSA Pig
FSA Gravity DX
Cassette
Shimano XT (11-32, 9spd)
Shimano XT (12-32, 9spd)
Crankarms
Shimano Saint
Shimano Saint (170mm) 36T
Chainguide
E.Thirteen LG1
E13 LG1 Alloy w/Taco
Bottom Bracket
Shimano Saint
Shimano Saint
Pedals
Kona Wah-Wah
Kona Wah-Wah
Chain
Shimano LX
Shimano SLX
Rear Derailleur
Shimano Saint
Shimano Saint
Front Derailleur
N/A
N/A
Shifter Pods
Shimano Saint (rh only)
Shimano Saint
Handlebar
RaceFace Diabolus FR Riser
FSA Gravity Light (800mm Wide, 25mm Rise)
Stem
RaceFace Diabolus D2
FSA Gravity Light (50mm/55mm Length, 31.8)
Grips
Kona LOG
Kona LOG
Brakes
Shimano Saint Hydraulic Disc
Shimano Saint Disc 8"
Wheelset
N/A
N/A
Hubs
Shimano Saint
Shimano Saint
Spokes
Sandvik Stainless 14g
Sandvik Stainless 14g
Rim
Sun MTX 33
Sun MTX 33
Tires
Maxxis Minion 3C 26x2.5
Kenda Nevegal DH 26x2.5
Seat
WTB Devo Team Cromo
WTB Devo Team
Seatpost
RaceFace Diabolus
FSA Gravity DH-300



New Decal Detail

New Decal Detail


32

32" Wide Gravity Bars


ISCG and ISCG 05 Mounts

ISCG and ISCG 05 Mounts


New Headtube - Tapered

New Headtube - Tapered


New chainstays and back end

New chainstays and back end


Adjustable Clevis

Adjustable Clevis


Kona D.O.P.E. System

Kona D.O.P.E. System


Link detail

Link detail




61 Comments

  • + 19
 HOLY FUCK!! THAT'S NICE!! About time Kona had Boxxers on the Stab's.
  • + 6
 yea for sure. Marzo are really starting to get behind in the race scene
  • + 3
 yea, they always had more technology till sram amped shit up when the argyles started comin out
  • + 1
 dude, i wanna ask, what This is stronger than in Kona last year?
  • + 16
 actually pretty nice for a kona
  • + 10
 Waaay better than my 2008 Barel Edition tank, with long cage derailleur and XC-oriented cassette...I'd ride this one stock!
  • + 8
 I'd never thought I'd say this, but the Stab actually looks delicious!
  • + 4
 thats actually big improvements, a sub 40 pound race bike is where they should be now, and you can easily drop another 2 pounds with those garbage wheels
  • - 4
flag mat-DHer (Aug 8, 2009 at 16:49) (Below Threshold)
 they should be S-types, much lighter
  • + 1
 Looks cool, I have the 2006 Stab Supreme and it has been great. Just upgraded to a Giant Glory but still have the Stab frame (for now).I find that systems like Maestro and VPP and DW are a little more efficient than the bolt on-band aid D.O.P.E. system. It works, but it's a pain and noisy.
  • + 1
 Hmmm, a move in the right direction, but why no direct mount stem? Even the Holzfeller would save weight and lover the front end. Also Kenda tyres suck ass, Maxxis 2.5 3c minion front + high roller rear. For the top of the range why no deemax or equivalent? Why a wide ratio cassette? needs 165m cranks as once you drop it into the slack geo setting the bb is just right but 170's touch down too easy. Also dh seat post is unnecessary, put something lighter in! Thomson or SDG I beam?
Finally Lose the Saint BRAKES they are unreliable, heavy, and avid elixir crs would trim some fat and put bluntly work ten times better! Oh yeah drop on some decent grips too. Ti spring optional? but lovely!
Apart from that nice work boys! I'm not flaming it I just don't understand compromising spec on a $5000 dollar bike I'd rather pay a smidge more and have it bang on straight away. Plus I reckon you'd save atleast a pound or more with those changes.
  • + 0
 i agree with your comment, but in shops here we can pay a little more and get the parts replaced with what we want. but it costs. depending on the parts you want!
  • - 1
 My main complaint is the tapered head tube. I don't care how many bikes have it, it is still stupid.
  • + 3
 A tapered headtube is for extra strength. It is not stupid, it is smart. It is irrelevant what other bikes have it, as having it means you get more strength. It's not for show, but serves a very specific purpose.
  • + 2
 Ask any experienced wrench, Shimano brakes are more reliable than Avid, especially on the lower end. And I'm pretty sure the saints are lighter.
  • + 1
 Any experienced wrench? me and my house mate have over 20 years Spannering in bike shops between us, including a year in whistler and we both agree that the new saints are just plain annoying, levers blocking up and sticking seals. Think you want to check your numbers on the brakes mate avid elixir cr 372g vs shimano saint 526g based on 200mm rotors.
  • + 1
 A 1.5 tube is stronger overall, so why not stick with that? Oh, because then you can't con people into buying new crap they don't need, to save 1/2 a gram.
  • + 1
 whoops, I forgot Saints are now 4 pot calipers.. I guess I was thinking of the "older" 1-piece caliper that they've used for years, Shimano brakes have always been lighter than Avid. So I haven't seen or worked on the new Saints, but have encountered many problems with Avids in the past with poor seals and tolerances, even when they're working "well" the performance and lever feel doesn't compare in my opinion. I think most wrenches would agree that (up until '09 at least) Shimanos are far more reliable than Avid brakes.

As far as the HT, I think most have concluded that the 1.5 isn't necessary for the top half of the HT. And I think you're looking at more than 1/2 gram.. the toptube, upper headset cup, bearings and the steertube would all have to be bigger as well. It's probably more like a 1/2 lb and you probably wouldn't notice the extra strength unless you drove into your carport or hit a tree hard enough to crumple your downtube.
  • + 1
 and i forgot the stem, 1.5 stems are quite a bit heavier..
  • + 1
 But the guy above me said it is for extra strength, now you are saying strength isn't important? It's a scam. Get that through your head and the happier you'll be, and i call bs on a 1/2 lb increase. That's almost 5-10% of the total frame weight from a slightly larger diameter tube?
  • + 1
 If anything is a scam it's the straight 1.5 tube rather than tapered because the extra diameter isn't really needed at the top. Ever notice that the lower crown is always a lot burlier on dual crown forks? It's the same idea.. when was the last time you saw a steertube or headtube fail at the top but not at the bottom? hmmm.
  • + 5
 an extra $1300 than last year eh? hmm...
  • + 6
 its a misprint $5699 on the kona website, $200 for a boxxer wc and a e13 lg1+, ya i think i will pay that.
  • + 1
 canadian or american?
  • + 1
 american
  • + 1
 I have the march 2000 issue of mountainbike action. They do a dh comparison test. The 2000 stab primo aside from the tubeset is the same bike haha. This has to be the longest running dh design
  • + 2
 if that bike is ACTUALLY 39.5 pounds out of the box, simple upgrades could easily put it under 38... lighter rims and air shock alone would probably accomplish that...
  • + 0
 The color looks Nicer in the 2009, except for the logos that look better in new one, that's acceptable... but the boxxer (brokenoxxer) nice tunning but at least in chile and finland, U look at them with ugly eyes and U break sliders.
Ask Lehikoinen how many he broke during the seasons he ran on Boxxer, or even let's make a Poll of how many boxxers 2010 are broken already at this date.
New 888 wc or for 40 would be aceptable.
  • + 1
 I think it's great that Kona didn't throw a proven design away in order to try something new. A proven, refined design that works is so much more fun to ride and own than something new and complicated.
  • - 1
 I have never liked Kona. They are tough, but slow. Friend of mine went from a Stinky D to a Session 10 and was over 20+ seconds faster on a 2.5 minute run... Admittedly that isnt their race bike, but its pretty much the same thing, just lighter. I have never seen an immediate improvement just from switching a bike.
  • + 1
 trek: slack geometry, much longer wheelbase, 3 more inches of travel..
and like you said, the stinky isn't really built to race anyway.
  • + 1
 yeah it isnt built to race but a session 10 isnt really built to "freeride" either... I have never seen anyone make such an improvement IN ALL ASPECTS OF RIDING as I have just from him switching bikes.
  • + 2
 OH MY GOD THAT'S SO...SO...the same as every other year. Nice spec but main pivot bushings? Still? So tired.
  • + 1
 I love Kona!! So glad they got rid of Hayes brakes too!! The 2010s look sweet!!!
  • + 1
 out of curiosity, why does PB think we all want to read about every single "new" kona? wasn't the sneak peek enough?
  • + 3
 ^^^^everybody was complaining about how the specs and geo hasn't changed, so they ran a side by side comparison.
  • + 1
 It's detailed information and side by side comparison from previous years. You can see for a fact what changed and what did not instead of speculating. Many users wanted a way to view that information in one place so we created a system and going forward you'll be able to compare all bikes like this.
  • + 3
 B E A utifull!!!
  • + 1
 Nice, well I like the new way, nice to see the comparison between the two years of bikes.
  • + 1
 finnally kona is making there bikes look ok!! took them bout 5 yrs
  • + 1
 dude, i wanna ask, what This is stronger than in Kona last year?
  • + 1
 Can you buy the frame alone and what would it cost.
  • + 1
 This totally changed my out look on Kona
  • + 1
 omg that is soo nice3 if i ever got a kona it would be this !
  • + 1
 I am actually quit supprised, they didn't put Marzochhi on it. GO ROCKSHOX
  • - 3
 Not happy with Pinkbike, whats with the good coverage on the Kona's but lack of for Norco, I was pretty dissaponited with, More specs and comparisons then the norco's and NOrco is even a sponser of pinkbike isnt it? 2 THUMBS DOWN for pinkbike and there lack of coverage for NORCO's 2010 lineup.
  • + 5
 We've just integrated the product system into the news system, and this is the first company to use it. This allows us from now on to give everyone easy and concise look at the specs. Clear comparison of specs and geometry from previous years. It'll be like this for ever company starting now, due to only now the tech being enabled.
  • + 1
 I like the Side-by-Side comparison chart, it's like the one on dpreview
  • + 1
 HOLY PRICE GAP BATMAN!
  • + 2
 HOLY BOXXER BATMAN!
  • + 1
 haha yeah finally decided to do a fork upgrade on this rig
  • + 1
 legit bike..
  • + 1
 looks so rad
  • - 1
 i do nt care if people votee my comment down but i like last years way better but the forks on this one is sick
  • + 0
 awsome bike, wonder how it rides
  • - 2
 i think that clevis is a little small to be barring all that weight, i think its going to be a problem.
  • + 4
 Same as its been since 07 and as far as i know theres no problem with it
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