BTR Ranger Hardtail Updated For 2017 - Press Release

Jan 11, 2017 at 16:44
Jan 11, 2017
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Press Release

BTR Ranger 2017 Burf Edition

NEW YEAR, NEW RANGER, NEW OPTIONS

BTR is proud to announce an updated Ranger for 2017 – the original and best enduro hardtail just got better! This update is the culmination of a lot of development work, from refining our build process to listening to customer feedback. We’re really happy with the real-world improvements we’ve made to a bike which was already arguably one of the world’s best hardtails.

Geometry:
The 2017 Ranger features an updated geometry; longer and slacker than its predecessor. With head angles being backed off by a full degree across all variations, and the reach being extended by 10mm. BB height remains the same though – this isn’t just a case of make it longer, lower and slacker, so that we can call it ‘new’!


Sizing:
Sizing has also been updated, with models now featuring more increments of head tube and chain stay length to deliver more consistent performance across all sizes. The XS Ranger (26” only) now has a 405mm chain stay, compared with the original 410mm. XL 26” and 650B Rangers now have 5mm longer chain stays than previously, at 420mm. 140mm head tubes (instead of 130 or 150mm) now feature on certain sizes of Ranger frame, giving more proportionate increments in stack height.

BTR Ranger 2017 Burf Edition - Internal Cable Routing amp Renthal Cockpit

Travel:
The 29er Ranger’s fork travel has been increased from 100mm to 120mm, in order to be compatible with more suitable fork options. The 26” and 650B Ranger frames have kept their 120mm travel forks, for good reason; with the updated geometry, the Ranger’s performance at high speed and on rough terrain has improved significantly.

BTR Ranger 2017 Burf Edition

Boost:
Boost 148mm rear spacing is now available as an option on the Ranger too, so that customers can tailor their frame to their needs even further. The Boost compatible Ranger is not compatible with 650B+ or similar tyres though – not even the 29er model – though it does gain a few mm of rear tyre clearance over the standard 142mm version. The Ranger will keep its current maximum of 2.35 – 2.4” tyre size, depending on brand. More on those fat tyres later…

BTR Ranger 2017 Frame Kit Internal Cable Routing Entry

Internal Cable Routing:
The most visually obvious upgrade for the Ranger is the addition of internal cable routing. Much more work than meets the eye has gone into this feature; we’ve made sure that the system keeps the frame properly sealed against the ingress of water, as well as making it mechanic-friendly and of course keeping the durability of the frame.

The cables are routed through the down tube, within thin stainless steel guide tubes; these tubes ensure that the frame stays sealed, and installing cables is as simple as just pushing the cable through until it pops out the other end.

BTR Ranger 2017 Burf Edition - Reverb Stealth B1

The dropper post cable materialises inside the seat tube, so the Ranger can be fully stealth compatible! The guide tubes feature rubber seals at the front end, which prevent any moisture or dirt from getting into the frame – it wouldn’t be very helpful if the seat tube filled up with water!

BTR Ranger 2017 Burf Edition - XT M8000 Rear Brake amp Easton Flatboy Pedals

The rear derailleur and rear brake cables emerge just in front of the BB, and run externally under the chain stays until they reach their targets.

Build Options:
The first of the new Rangers was built for Burf, featuring his choice of components throughout. With the original complete Ranger build mainly being specced by Tam, we decided that this new bike should really bear Burf’s name, and the original build Tam’s. This is how the new ‘Burf Edition’ and ‘Tam Edition’ ranges of frame kits and complete bikes came about.

BTR Ranger 2017 Burf Edition Frame Kit

The main differences between the two ranges stem from the differences in Burf & Tam’s riding; both ride hard and fast, pushing their limits wherever possible. However Burf focuses on racing, where Tam just rides flat out for the adrenaline kick.

On Burf Edition builds you’ll find only the top-of-the-line products which can stand up to prolonged riding under his 90kg mass. Tam Edition builds have no less focus on durability or performance, but achieve their goals by simpler means. One thing is guaranteed – you won’t find cheap, plasticy tyres or heavy inner tubes, or rattly spoke protectors and wheel reflectors on either model.

BTR Ranger 2017 Burf Edition

A complete Tam Edition Ranger starts at £2800, and its Burf Edition counterpart £3400.

BTR Ranger 2017 Internal Cable Routing Entry

What’s Next?
There was mention of 650B+, and no doubt this option being denied on the Ranger is a disappointment to some. There are plans though; there isn’t a 650B+ Ranger because 650B+ bikes ride differently. They are more capable in some situations and less in others, so it only seems right that they get their own frame, designed contact-patch-up to extract the maximum possible from the bigger tyres.


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150 Comments

  • + 135
 Oh man that thing is ugly
  • - 21
flag thenotoriousmic (Jan 11, 2017 at 17:29) (Below Threshold)
 Have you seen your face?!
  • + 42
 gratz on inventing the first wrong opinion
  • + 76
 I'm actually diggin it ! Looks like a RatRod. Not a main bike but I could see myself having this as a secondary, fun, bike to trash around in the woods!
  • + 16
 Ugly and expensive... Who the H would pay $5500 canadian for a hardtail?
  • + 11
 Looks like it'd be a laugh to ride which is what it's all about isn't it? Plenty of cookie cutter frames out there for people who want to play safe.
  • + 13
 No rattly spoke protectors and wheel reflectors? Oh well, off to Walmart then.
  • + 19
 @TheDoctoRR: very Fast and capable bikes, UK hand made to custom spec. Not some Taiwanese off the self labeled up as high quality custom crap
  • + 4
 @Orangesicle: You'd think they would at least throw in some spokey dokeys or tassels at that sort of price. I'll wait for Black Friday at Walmart then.
  • + 22
 People get bikes made in Taiwan because they are good, not because they are cheap. There are a lot of cheaper places to get bikes made. Don't be so racist. Are British welders inherently better than Taiwaneses?
  • + 5
 @jaame: nope, I know there's great stuff coming from Taiwan, I've been riding them for years.my point is. When some companies get thier frames made cheaply in the far east but, market them like they're high quality.
  • - 6
flag nojzilla (Jan 12, 2017 at 0:25) (Below Threshold)
 @jaame: and don't call me racist that's just f*cking weak. Like could just lable you a cry baby liberal SJW. But, I won't.
  • + 3
 @nojzilla: so what you're saying is, far east is poor quality and British made is high quality? I thought quality was related to design, materials and manufacturing process, rather than geographic location. Are you countryist if not racist?
  • - 27
flag nojzilla (Jan 12, 2017 at 1:06) (Below Threshold)
 @jaame: I'm saying your a f*cktard. There's all different levels of quality coming from the far east, what a company gets depends on what they pay for. Some companies pass this on to the customer some don't
Custom, handmade companies like BTR are 110% high quality in materials, desighn manufacturing an customer service
As aposed to mass manufacturing

Do you get it now?
Prick
  • + 5
 @polarproton: it looks like a fun second bike but it would just sit there like my other steel hardtail that I just sold because hard tails are hard to ride the older you get. You'll think you will want to ride it until you have to walk past your pimped out trail bike and try to convince the hard tail will be better. But but maybe your not a hack like me?
  • + 26
 @nojzilla: @nojzilla @jaame I think you are arguing over a bit of a weak point.

Ask for quality from Taiwan - get quality, ask for junk - get junk.

Ask BTR for a quality frame - Get quality, somehow persuade them to make junk - get junk.

The difference and merit here in buying the BTR is that you support two guys in your home country, you are paying for them to make you a frame that you can customise aspects of, and you will get (as you mentioned nojzilla) a high standard of customer service.

Some of this is of course available from other brands, Cotic, Stanton etc but if you value having something made by hand in the UK and you like the product then get a BTR.

The age old argument of overseas V UK made is old but I do wish more people would try and 'buy locally' or in 20 years time you may not have any choice left in where or what you buy.
  • + 14
 My buddy Jez got his ranger last week.
Had a quick spin, it's like no other hardtail I've ever ridden! !

So slack and stable at high speeds it's scary how fast you can cover really rough trails considering its a Hardtail.

It's funny, all these lot on here chucking their opinions around and probably none have even seen one in the flesh, much less ridden one!!

Well as someone who has actually got some riding time on one, I can say Tam and Burf have way outdone my expectations of how good a ht can take rough trails!!

Wait till you've been on one, you'll be grinning from ear to ear.....

More fun than you could comprehend from looking at an "ugly " picture of a bike on a computer or phone screen...
  • + 2
 @polarproton: @3400£ !
  • - 3
 @Racer951: With BTR you are getting a high quality frame (that's up to each person to decide if it's worth it). Saying that you could get the same of a mass production frame made in Taiwan is bullshit.
  • + 6
 @Racer951: I get it, but I'm not a fan of passive Taiwan bashing. Taiwan is awesome, and the UK is awesome, too.

One shouldn't get one's knickers 110% in a twist about a bit of internet banter. And one should learn the difference between "your" and "you're".
  • + 10
 As a fan of Steel HTs, I choose to ride a Stanton Slackline and Cotic BFe (both 26) and have thrown my leg over a 26 BTR Ranger here in Japan too.

Steel HT frame prices, for a variety of reasons, used to be cheaper a handful of years ago, so these days getting a bespoke, boutique, customized hand crafted frame will cost you $$$$$, and rightly so; there are skilled craftspeople's livelihoods on the line here and if you want that attention to detail and quality, it is right to have to pay more for it.

And with a Ranger, you end up getting an unbelievably good riding experience in my view. If the updated version is as good as the 26 was (and I would be highly surprised if it wasn't) and I had the money available, which I don't, I would seriously consider putting in an order.

One day maybe I will have the coin before I get too old to enjoy it!

Oh, and the Ranger is my local LBS in Japan's owner's ride of choice by the way when he is looking for a rip-roaring trail bike. It isn't only the Brits who "get it".
  • + 1
 @jaame: Yea agree with that, passive bashing of any countries products isn't a great thing to see but I would like to see more people praising things made in the UK (or whichever country the person is from for that matter)

Support your 'local' business, though I don't doubt the fact Taiwain and China can produce a decent product, I don't want every product to look the same or share such similar traits they may as well be, be that because all of the small companies are gone or because one place is making everything - Just look at many Taiwanese hardtails, all made in one of a few factories and all sharing similar construction to keep the cost down.
  • + 3
 @TheDoctoRR: Yeah, but in US dollars it's only...nevermind.
  • + 1
 @ViceGrips: Ahah, maybe. But being in my early 20's I took part in a Scott test day. Rode a scale ltd after many years on trail/enduro bikes and though I should ride more hardtails. It really is a different experience although not aimed at the same things (even the BTR).
For someone who seeks absolute performance, I believe training on a HT is also good for sharpening tech skills. Smile

And finally, you never have to much bikes! Razz

@GXMV: Why not? If you have the money and like it, go on ! If you are looking for sensible arguments to justify the amount of money spent on a bike, you will either stick to Solid/Yt/Canyon or simply quit the sport. Razz

My commuter is wayyyyy to expensive for its purpose but it's a bike I built and love and every time I look at it, or think about it, I tell myself it's a damn cool bike! That's a form of pleasure a cheap/common/mainstream/reasonable bike can't provide me, no matter how good it performs. I'm sure many will understand my point !
  • + 1
 @ViceGrips: Haha, you are not alone, +2 on the hack here ViceGrips
  • + 1
 @oldmanDan: You could be very right but I think unfortunately the price puts it out of most people reach. Sure maybe you have 5k laying around but can you justify spending it on an XT equipped hardtail?

On a separate but related topic; sure the geometry gives you better stability at speed but unless you are running fire roads, the point seems moot. Its hard enough to keep your fillings and control a hard tail in the rough slowly, I cant imagine trying it any faster... And just to play devils advocate to myself, Yes im sure there are people who can ( i thought i remember someone doing very well at megavalanche on a hard tail) but thats a very small proportion of riders..
  • + 6
 @TheDoctoRR: I would get a chromag, there frames are really nice looking and cheaper.
  • + 2
 @Racer951: yes. We should big things up on their own merits, rather than big them up by putting something else down.
  • + 0
 @jaame: racist grow up we are all 1 race its called the HUMAN RACE you brainwashed sheep rant over
thats 1 ugly bike i will stick with chromag thank you
alltho i do like british built gear
  • + 0
 @jaame: racist grow up we are all 1 race its called the HUMAN RACE you brainwashed sheep rant over
thats 1 ugly bike i will stick with chromag thank you
alltho i do like british built gear
  • + 2
 @polarproton: Exactly - I think it's sick. The internal routing entry points are super Ratrod exhaust-ish and the head tube badge is genius.
  • + 2
 @jaame: I call it Made in Formosa. Sends people to google and makes my yt seem exotic.
  • + 1
 @polarproton: 1 point !
  • + 1
 @endlessblockades: if only it would send the Chinese communist party to google!
  • + 29
 The brake routing tubes are dangerous.
Marzocchi is cool.
A normal seat clamp should be better for a mtb.
Rear brake routing is off, only xtr xt slx, have the adjustable angle hose. On all other brakes, the line will point straight at 10 o clock. It just needs one cable stop, on top, 5 inches from bb.
Cable routing under the cs is a pain to clean and not popular on mtb for a reason.
Nice dropouts.
It is not the original enduro hardtail... so don't pretend.
It is not the "fastest" bike...
Hire better advertisers/copywriters.
They are talented builders but I think they aim to the wrong market.

Enduro is the new "Fixie", but lucky they stopped pushing the mask/open helmet combo.
  • + 19
 #FACTS

I need your critiques and low-key praising in my everday life--would streamline a whole lot of existence.
  • + 2
 check, check, and check.
  • + 11
 At least on other brakes you could run the cable on the inside of the stays to save it from a beating during a wreck. Bad design is bad.
  • - 11
flag dangerwank (Jan 11, 2017 at 22:30) (Below Threshold)
 How exactly does Marzocchi exist now? For real. Is it not folded up and gone?
  • + 1
 @dangerwank: fox bought them I think
  • + 2
 There is a different photo on the BTR website. It shows a better rear brake routing.

Nothing under the CS.

www.pinkbike.com/photo/14310505
  • + 0
 @RedRedRe "Rear brake routing is off, only xtr xt slx, have the adjustable angle hose. On all other brakes, the line will point straight at 10 o clock. It just needs one cable stop, on top, 5 inches from bb."

You can buy 360 banjos in different thread sizes to fit most any caliper.

" The brake routing tubes are dangerous."

How so?

"Cable routing under the cs is a pain to clean and not popular on mtb for a reason."

My Breadwinner CX frame has this, not hard to clean at all!
  • + 1
 @whattheheel: Yep hose route is bogus
  • + 25
 BTRs are awesome....this is no exception... You guys are blind to the pure functional art of this mean machine. Plebians - get off my lawn!
  • + 23
 Running cables internally looks so much better...I just think those cable "tubes" should be flush with the frame.
  • + 63
 No chance, looks like something from Mad Max, I love it
  • + 1
 My Cotic BFe got his challenger now .. LOL
  • + 13
 I agree with you and not for looks. My thought is more of what if I crash or lay the bike down on that side, or clip a tree branch.
  • + 16
 Excuse me, may I smoke some weed through your housing bowl?
  • + 5
 I think that's to keep the cables/hoses away from the head tube to prevent rubbing.
  • + 1
 @Maverick18T: that was the first thing that occurred to me too.
  • + 7
 They kinda remind me of the exhausts on a WW2 war plane.
  • + 3
 @Maverick18T: It seems dangerous, and I think it's event forbidden in many EU countries, as you can't sell a bike with protruding parts.
  • + 4
 @faul: Are you saying the 'B' in BTR stands for Brexit?
  • + 1
 @MonkeyPuzzle: Yes, and the "R" for "right sided handlebar"
  • + 2
 @faul: With the advent of 1x drivetrains, there's no point in having a left side.
  • + 2
 And the T stands for Farage... They just put the little flange on the F in the wrong place.
  • + 10
 ...uhhh after i looked at it again, i take back my negative comment. Im all about everything Mad Max. And this bike is Mad Max. I cant stop looking at it.
  • + 11
 Personally, I would run that rear hydro hose inside the stays and adjust the banjo accordingly.
  • + 3
 Yeah! You could just run the hose right through the bottom bracket!
  • + 1
 @unrooted: On the wheel side as opposed to the rock/tree/foot side maybe?
  • + 11
 Oh man that is a rugged lookin bike. Love it!
  • + 8
 Once hoses are routed through the ports and element of danger is eliminated. I thought the same as you guys when Tam told me of his idea, but as soon as I saw the bike fully built I knew it would be fine. Burf
  • + 2
 does the headtube have to be so long? doesnt look nice and makes a pretty high front imo
  • + 11
 It needs a much slacker head tube.... Wink
  • + 4
 0° headtube for aerodynamics, then you just bend down in the downward dog like a rocketship, and stare at the ground you'll soon be leaving behind.
  • + 11
 OK. This "long and slack" thing is starting to go too far.
  • + 2
 Damn it you beat me to it!
  • + 7
 Looks way cooler that any candy ass plastic coated full susser out there.Smile
  • + 8
 I love this frame
  • + 8
 Art.
  • + 6
 MTB meets steam punk, bet it rips on the down though
  • + 3
 Had a rise on my friends BTR Ignitor and ranger. These bikes are FAST!! Maybe too fast in the Ignitor's, I felt I could go way faster than a 100mm fork could handle
Smile

Would LOVE a custom 26 inch ranger
  • + 3
 Very cool and nice frame ! Somethink different then all the other bike. Small manufactur they have the power to doing what ever they want , No mainstream product. Ohh .. yes Marzocchi still alive
  • + 3
 Based on the very first picture I understand why some think it's ugly... but set the saddle horizontal, lower it 3cm and take the pictures in better lighting it will look much better...
  • + 2
 Never liked this design since the beginning. Of course, aesthetics is a personal thing. I am sure though that the quality here is high and you can't go wrong with handmade British brands, see Orange, Stanton, Kingdom and so on. But it's true, you cannot call this a beauty - although it seems that it rides as a serious fast machine. Check this out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbAXDAJcp1Y
  • + 2
 That is one very nice looking HT, I do love my Taro though so that may be part of it. For those worried about getting impaled by the cable outboard bit, why? You really think those little exhausts will be the death of you? That seems especially neurotic/paranoid, they look to sit pretty flush with the frame.
  • + 5
 Yeah boys! Bad ass hard tails ftw
  • + 1
 Using mass production of other companies as an excuse for this ugly overpriced frame is daft. Take a leaf out of orange bikes based in Halifax. There frames were and are great . A lot more work went into there msile which was handmade in uk and it was only rrp 699 in stiff. You guys take the piss
  • + 1
 When I was young, there would always be this kid who showed up to the dirt jumps on his Huffy. Nice enough guy, but he had a way of always casing doubles. He did it enough times that he bent his fork pretty severely. Point being: when I opened up this page, that kid's "super slacked out" Huffy was the first thing I was reminded of.

In all seriousness, I'd be interested to hear how the thing rides.
  • + 6
 10/10 would ride.
  • + 1
 I have one of their last ranger models and it is amazing and looks lush in the flesh, I thought paying £1000 for a frame was a lot but now I've had it for a year I would pay twice that for the amount of fun it is, it's the whole experience of talking to the guys while your bike is being hand made and having the option to tweak things, priceless.
  • + 1
 For those not acquainted with BTR's frames it takes a while to get used to the overall look. If you scan through the sexiest hardtail thread there are many lustworthy builds of the ranger ht. You could say it's a case of function over form, but the aesthetic result looks nice, if different, to me. My favourite part is the shape of the seat/chainstays, which probably are made so in order to give a certain ride quality.

That said, I find the new internal routing tubes extremely ugly and potentialy dangerous.
  • + 1
 Ohh dear ohh dear ohhh dear , this 5 grand shed goes in the same bin as flat bars ,650b and fat bikes in a couple of years gone with the wind.please dont say its about 5 G just for the frame on its own aswell,who actually buys this crap............
  • + 3
 Looks are proving decisive. I think it looks kinda cool, but I'd worry those prodtuding internal cable routing guides may end up causing injuries in a over the bars crash.
  • + 5
 Who in the fawk installed that rear brake? Fail
  • + 2
 LOVE this things looks and shoutout to BTR for saving my GCSE business project, super helpful local company.. cheers guys @BTR fabrications
  • + 2
 The aesthetic of the modern geo, AM hardtail is certainly an acquired taste. I'm all in, and once again clearly in the minority.
  • + 1
 First reaction: I hate this. Second reaction..... oh thats interesting........ Third reaction: this is up there with gearboxes. I REALLY want/need the concept to work but i need to ride it first!!!
  • + 4
 you can only turn around on that in roundabouts...
  • + 2
 I like it, straight out of mad max for sure. If I didn't already have a steel hardtail and it didn't cost so much I'd seriously consider it.
  • + 1
 What price should the frame be
  • + 4
 I think the geo is awesome, I bet this bike rips!! Very cool!
  • + 4
 It has the TITS system wow! Razz
  • + 3
 Those cable routing tubes. Look like a good place to launch bottle rockets.
  • + 1
 I would like to see the 29" version, can't find a picture of it anywhere.

I really like the looks and finish on these bikes.
  • + 3
 I am sure the 5 or 6 people that buy it will LOVE it
  • + 2
 No. It's all gone too far. Too long, too slack. 405mm chainstay? That's nearly as small as my bmx. Stop it.
  • + 2
 That's my one geometry criticism, I would use this kind of bike for every-day trail riding etc and feel anything below 425-430mm is too small and I would be riding over the rear axle with the saddle up - For a DJ bike definitely, trail bike, not so sure.
  • + 1
 i had a 29er 1 built last year until u ride 1 ul never understand 1 buy far best ht iv ever owned… u can ride anything on it
  • + 2
 The internal cable routing look like mini exhaust pipes....different looking bike for sure.
  • + 0
 I was watching a btr in classifieds on here. The thing could not sell second hand for shit. You could see rust seaping through the paint on the bottom bracket welds. way too overpriced in my opinion
  • + 3
 How do a bunch of well meaning intentions end us up here...
  • + 3
 Wicked really like it very cool bike.
  • + 1
 It's not hard to be harsh about a fugly barn gate when the person trying to sell it is trying to have your pants down. £££££££wtf
  • + 2
 I don't know why, but there's something oddly satisfying in this bike
  • + 1
 I think hardtails should be small so they can be thrown about, bmx style. Good luck throwing that thing about.
  • + 2
 It really depends on what you are trying to achieve, but my current ht is way longer than my previous one and I really like the extra stability. Being a ht and relatively light, it's still easy to pop and throw around, just less of a handfull on the rough. I've not tried anything remotely close to a 61 degree head tube angle though....
  • + 1
 Was nice in this photo www.pinkbike.com/photo/14264711 , I guess BTR took wrong way with this new RANGER updates...
  • + 2
 Also, what is this brakes hose waypoint outside of the frame in rear triangle? Huh? God dammit, first ride with this thing, drifting around and the brake hose will part in two pieces...
  • + 1
 a steel "enduro" hardtail, with nothing special bolted onto it, starting at ~$4500Cdn?? is that price for 2 of them, or 3?
  • + 1
 Never ride BTR but the frame looks weird..Production Privee is better, for me. Or Stanton.. But, good luck for u all BTR
  • + 3
 Its more a case of you are getting something quite unique, hand-made in the UK (Which matters to some people, not others but that's personal opinion) with customisable options and quite progressive geometry - Its not a mass-produced option like the Stanton or Production Privee.

You are the customer and you decide what works for you best but without these cool small manufacturers things would really get boring fast!
  • + 2
 Wow I haven't seen a pair of Easton Flatboys since 2007
  • + 1
 Are they gonna sell any of these? That is the real question. Maybe my ideas aren't so dumb after all...
  • + 1
 Looks cool but way too slack!! I can handle a bike well enough to go at least a bit steeper then than
  • + 2
 Looks pretty cool, I want one even tho I'm too old To ride it
  • + 2
 ewwww
  • + 1
 BTR employees frantically down voting
  • + 1
 I am confused. This is fugly, and I want to ride it.
  • + 1
 I will stick with Chromag
  • + 1
 Custom bikes like this would be good Eightpins seatpost candidates...
  • + 2
 Hutch Trick Star.
  • + 1
 Well, I hope it rides well...
  • + 2
 Beautiful...
  • + 0
 There's a stampeding herd of cows somewhere that escaped from the field that gate used to be in...
  • - 1
 This thing is deserving of all the praise it will get here (which is none).
  • + 0
 Loads of toe space for doing x-ups.
  • - 1
 But how do my welds look? OK?
  • - 1
 The elephant man has some competition
  • - 2
 Can't wait to see the design of the + size compatible frames. Hope they look as striking as the Ranger frames.
  • + 0
 Marmite ..
  • - 2
 looks like something a homeless guy would ride around town collecting empty bottles and cans.
  • - 1
 i dont care how nice the bike is, i would never ride something so ugly
  • - 3
 I love BTR stuff. But man, this looks like a retarded fish frog mondraker.
  • - 3
 man , that is a fucked up looking bike.
  • - 3
 I ride bikes based on function but that looks like ass.
  • - 2
 This is spoof on long/slack...gotta be.
  • - 3
 not even a 1.5 HT, no taper? pics could be messing with my eyes but that sure looks like a 28.6 straight steertube to me Frown
  • + 4
 It's a 44mm head tube.
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