Hei Hei Goes Big-gerWe’ve already covered the big-picture story on Kona’s 2017 line up—the changes to the Process models, the addition of 27.5-wheeled Operators, carbon Honzo hardtails, Honzo’fied fat bikes and more. If you missed all that,
check out the story here.
Kona recently invited a host of dealers and media hacks to ride some of the new goods on the trails of Squamish, British Columbia. It was the perfect opportunity to get some real saddle time on another of Kona’s new models—the 2017 Hei Hei Trail.
Hei Hei Trail DL Details• Intended use: trail riding
• Fork travel: 140 millimeters
• Rear wheel travel: 140 millimeters
• Wheelsize: 27.5
• Carbon front and rear triangles
• Internal dropper post routing
• Boost (12x148-mm) hub spacing
• Sizes: XS/ S / M / L
• Price range: $5,999 (USD)
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@konaworld The Longer-Travel Hei HeiThough the Hei Hei has been in Kona’s line for years now as a cross-country whippet, the bike returned in early 2016 in a different guise—a sort of streamlined, aggro version that took serious inspiration from Kona’s Process models. The Hei Hei still bore traces of its cross-county lineage, but the bike was slacker and lower-slung than its predecessor. It was, in short, a much more capable flavor of Hei Hei.
Unlike the Hei Hei’s that rolled out in 2016, the new Hei Hei Trail wears 27.5 (rather than 29)-inch wheels and sports a full 140-millimeters of suspension travel, front and rear. While a day of riding doesn’t qualify as a legitimate test by any stretch, it was enough to get a taste of what the new bike is all about. Kona is offering three Hei Hei Trail models this year, ranging in price from $4,199 to $7,499. The model shown here, the Hei Hei Trail DL, is the middle child option and sells for $5,999.
This new Hei Hei Trail model takes things up a notch, so to speak, with an extra 40 millimeters (1.5 inches) of rear suspension. As with the other Hei Hei models, however, the frame relies on the same Fuse Independent Suspension design, which eschews seat and chainstay pivots for a rear flex pivot.
“Flex is actually happening through the whole seatstay—not just at a single point in the seatstay,” says Kona product manager, Paddy White. “The shape and material layup has been optimized to accommodate the flex, which isn’t as much as you might expect—in total, you’re talking about 2.67 degrees of flex.”
Though the Hei Hei Trail frame looks similar to its shorter-travel Hei Hei siblings, it bears an entirely different front triangle. There are also a few new additions. The Trail is the first Kona model to wear one of the new metric, trunnion mount rear shocks, as well as a tidy cable routing port on the downtube that makes snaking dropper post lines less of a hair-tearing venture. The port also holds a spare rear derailleur hanger. Tre’ SWAT.
The Hei Hei Trail’s geometry is surprisingly similar to that of the 2014-2016 Process 134, what Kona is now calling First-Generation Process geometry (the 2017 Process models have grown slacker and longer). While the Hei Hei Trail might seem like a lighter version of the Process 134, Kona is adamant that the bikes are different in a way that geometry charts simply don’t convey.
“This new Hei Hei Trail just isn’t as burly as the Process,” explains Kona marketing manager, Caleb Smith. “The Process comes from an all-mountain lineage and the Hei Hei Trail still comes from a lighter, more cross-country lineage."
Squamish is not a bad place to ride a bike. And by "not a bad place" I really mean, "a ridiculously awesome place to ride a bike, but I'm too jealous of the place to outright admit it." According to Trailforks and local advocacy group, SORCA, there are no fewer than 218 trails lacing the mountains above town and providing riders with 155 miles worth of sheer awesome. You want mellow XC rides? Squamish is your place. You want challenging intermediate trails? Squamish is your place. You want high-pucker factor descents? Squamish is your place.
Our day's ride was centered around Diamond Head. The route included a meandering grunt up Stl’lhalem Sintl’ and Legacy Climb, then a descent down Upper Half Nelson, Recycle, Fred, Tinder, a wee bit of Deliverance, Your Mom and Pseudo-Tsuga Part 3. In short, a good afternoon spent climbing and descending technical cross-country trails. Or, at least, “intermediate XC” by BC standards, which is to say there were still plenty of roots and rocky bits to max out those 140-millimeters of suspension.
I’ve spent a good chunk of the past four months riding the Hei Hei DL—the 29er version, so I’m more than familiar with the general feel of the Fuse Independent Suspension. As with the 29er option, the Hei Hei Trail gets up grades with minimal fuss. It’s a lightweight rig and, though it doesn’t scoot up climbs with quite the same alacrity as the 29er version, you can easily pedal up most climbs with the rear shock run wide open. I’ve noticed a bit of pedal kickback when muscling up rocky trails on the 29er—something that was, if anything, a bit more noticeable on this longer-travel 27.5 model. Not a deal breaker, but one of those things that makes itself known, particularly when you’re running flat pedals.
I’d need more time to figure this bike and its limits out, but at this point I can say that I’d happily take it on most of the trails that I normally reserve for longer-travel models. On one hand, the Hei Hei Trail is lively—a bike that likes to be preloaded and popped around. On the other hand, it feels calm and centered coming into and out of dicey sections of trail. While the Hei Hei Trail doesn’t possess the same outright bomber feel of the Process 134, it’s not as far off the mark as you might suspect, given the weight savings.
How does the 27.5 Hei Hei Trail DL match up to Kona's 29er Hei Hei DL? Both bikes are capable of handling the same terrain, but the 29er feels decidedly quicker on the climbs and rolling sections. The wagon-wheeler also skips nicely over the tops of root balls and rocky sections. This 27.5 version, by contrast, feels spunkier and offers more margin for error when you misjudge a line. Some people will dig the latter. Others the former. Me? I’m more into the 29er, but I can see how someone looking for a more playful version would prefer the Hei Hei Trail. Either way, if you’re looking for a simple, lightweight and capable trail bike, the new Kona is worth checking out.
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kona - fox shocks, spec - rockshox
kona - both triangles carbon, spec - rear triangle -aluminium,
kona- I haven't found ISCG 05, spec - as I saw has it.
But what is the goal for you?
1- Pricing and Sizing, etc.
2- Why Kona made the bike.
3- "Yes, it use's time-tested tech and some bikes have their weaknesses."
4- Prove their testing ground was sick.
5- "I spent loads of time on this Kona bike and..."
6A- It works. Good.
6B- Very, Very good.
7- Here are different flavor Kona bikes for different people.
8- Bike rips, check it out.
I tend to look at the comments to see a more honest appraisal of the bike. $5000? how much? Bloody boost, sod off. Enve wheels? Maybe I can sell one of my children.
Much more realistic for the average buyer
So why is it that other websites like VitalMTB can do this?
As for comparisons, we try to include those in full bike reviews whenever possible, and we've started to do larger scale comparisons of product we've previously reviewed, like this: www.pinkbike.com/news/dropper-post-test-review-six-2015.html, and this: www.pinkbike.com/news/trail-knee-guards-ridden-and-rated-2016.html. There's always room for improvement, but we're certainly working hard to present balanced and unbiased reviews.
Keep in mind that what you just read is a First Ride, not a comprehensive review - that's when we get into things like durability, component spec, etc...
I'm not worried about the suspension feedback as all(?) 140mm bikes with 'active' designs are gonna bob while climbing with the shock in open.
I'd ride the shit out of it.
Test a bike most of us can afford, give us the lowdown on how the suspension behaves. Then you guys will regain your credibility.
Diamdondback Release: www.pinkbike.com/news/diamondback-release-3-review-2016.html
Fuki Rakan: www.pinkbike.com/news/fuji-rakan-1-3-review-2016.html
Niner RKT 9: www.pinkbike.com/u/vernonfelton/blog/niner-rkt-9-rdo-2-star-build-review.html
Kona Process 134: www.pinkbike.com/news/kona-process-134-review-2016.html
And Siderealwall2@ you want a cookie?
Plus, let's count how many other bikes you tested above the 6K limit. I'm sure they surpass your "low end" ones by at least an order of magnitude.
So if every product is good than that would make for reviews to be even more critical and more nit picky right? As readers and potential consumers we need to know "Why is this bike worth $$$$ yet this $$ bike has just as good as a review?"
I do realize all of the PB staff works hard and loves what they do and as much as I did knock PB for their "soft" reviews I certainly don't want to come off disrespecting the hard work you guys are doing. After all, I still visit the site on a daily. But I do REALLY enjoy the stuff going on over at VitalMTB when they do videos of them test riding the bikes.
I also really enjoy when they do reviews that pit the bikes against each other and give low to high ratings. We all may not agree on their reviews but it makes me feel like they are truly trying to give the consumers everything they need to know about said bike before they drop X amount on a bike.
Q: Will Pinkbike consider doing videos of the testers riding certain trails? Doesn't have to show 10minutes of trail riding only certain parts that PB consider valuable to the audience. Maybe we get long term review videos. For example...when this Kona has it's proper testing and it's time for review maybe show us the readers a video of the testers talking about how they felt.
sorry for the long post too
I doubt you will find much. Even the stuff that is bad is sugar coated as per the examples you cited.
By all means protest that you write fair balance unbiased reviews, but judging by a lot of the comments the readers (and myself) don't think you do.
It's alright, we understand you can't or are afraid to bite the hand that feeds you
You want to know what an interesting review looks like? Go and watch Top gear and Jeremey Clarkson. Ok it might be over the top and somewhat silly, but no sugar coating whatsoever.
The question is why are they "hiding" it?
As an aside, there are failure testing charts for pneumatic actuators that prove trunion mount styles deflect less under load than eyelet styles. It's an industrial standard beyond mountain bikes.
Our 2 cars cost $20k combined. Our house payment is intentionally reasonable cause the Jones's can go fu$% themselves. We don't go to Disney or on cruises or even concerts. We live that way so we can buy expensive bikes (which are more fun than cheap ones) and enjoy life the way we want to.
It's this sort of bogus ego thing though, this 'If you can't afford, f*ck off, because I can" attitude that let's companies charge $2200 for 'entry level' (the Precept is a turd, come off it). As it sits, for $4200 I'd certainly go with something other than this bike, but the point being it HAS TO do it all, because that is going to be the only bike I can afford. The cost of carbon production keeps dropping, yet the cost of carbon mountain bikes keeps climbing...at some point it would be nice to see the savings passed along to the customer. It's coming, but we're still a few years out on it.
Spotting this a lot on new bikes. As good as NW rings and clutch mechs, are, at high speed on rough terrain, you'll lose the chain. I've lost so much time in races with dropped chains and I now have OneUp guides on my hardtail and race bike. Minimal guide with no weight penalty, and I've never lost a chain since. A quick check here shows every pro running some kind of guide
www.pinkbike.com/news/ews-1-chile-race-bikes.html
BB mounted ones are a pain, especially with press fit BBs. Bring back ISCG tabs please!!!
www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/bikes/model/trance.2/26030/92812/#geometry
73.5 degree seat angle, 67 degree head angle
www.giant-bicycles.com/int/anthem-advanced-27.5-2-2016#geometry
He's not as wrong as you think based on that model.
iam already tired of the new world bike era... downvote this comment, i dont care cause you know iam right
The process lune is ok bang for the buck, but even then us Canucks are paying 5G for an alloy SLX build. Ouch.
Staff of Pinkbike you are doing a great job.
www.ridingfeelsgood.com/suspension-linkage-kinematics-basics-anti-squat-pedal-kickback
There are about three feet to a meter, 10 inches to a foot, 5000 feet to a mile... and about 3 degrees of flex in that seatstay.