2017 Pinkbike Awards - Best Apparel and Protection Winner

Dec 11, 2017
by Pinkbike Staff  
PB Awards



Best Apparel and Protection Winner - Fox Proframe

Fox has been making helmets for a number of years and the Proframe is their latest offering. Offering a stylish silhouette, massive ventilation, Mips and DH safety certification, the Proframe seems to have it all.


Fox Proframe helmet


Gaining massive popularity at the enduro races worldwide, the Proframe has set a solid benchmark for the future of mountain bike helmets that need to protect rider on the way down without being a nuisance on the way back to the top.

The Fox Proframe takes the award for Pinkbike's 2017 Best Apparel and Protection Winner.








98 Comments

  • + 65
 Massive popularity? Huh.
  • + 14
 my thoughts exactly
  • + 130
 In this day and age we should be used to the media making sweeping statements that are back up with zero evidence. Today we live in a world where perception is reality, and reality does little to shape perception...
  • + 44
 @midschool: way too deep for PB. My head esploded

...

Also too true.
  • + 33
 Have you even worn one of these? They are insanley light and breathe really well. A lot of people at races have adopted them as their only helmet. Dont knock it before you try it
  • + 17
 If you don't read the news, you're uninformed.
If you do read the news, you're misinformed....

Can only mean that Pinkbike is fake news?! Follow the money; what is their incentive?

@midschool: #followthewhiterabbit check it out
  • - 1
 @theminsta: @midschool

SLOW CLAP! I couldn’t give a less crap about a helmet like this one. After buying Bell Super 2R my love for pseudo fullface helmets is gone. I understand why people buy these, I respect that. I don’t judge.

But I enjoy reading posts like these... we should have a day in the week to post Orwells quotes... just to fk with people
  • + 79
 @WAKIdesigns: "I respect that. I don’t judge"
yeah, that's totally you
LOL
  • + 7
 @WAKIdesigns: lets do it on a bright cold day in April, as the clocks are striking thirteen.
  • - 5
flag Konyp (Dec 11, 2017 at 16:14) (Below Threshold)
 This thing is literally more expensive than my city bike. To pay this much for a piece of kit that should be disposed of after a larger knock seems unwise at best. What more it does not even claim any safety advantages over all the other PS shells. I hoped that if they chose a helmet it would be one with some new protective technology, but I guess style is equally important.
  • + 1
 @midschool: Have you read George Orwell's novel, 1984? I feel that you would enjoy it immensely
  • + 6
 It’s Fake News!
  • + 1
 i saw quite a few people wear them in whistler this past season. bout it
  • + 1
 @theminsta: so youre telling me someone working at mcdonalds will always recommend mcdonalds?
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: the whole point of this helmet is that it’s not a “pseudo full face.” It’s a proper DH-certified helmet. And a damn comfortable one at that.
  • + 1
 @endlessblockades are you some kind of TLD/100% fanboi and it hurts you to read that a fox helmet is popular ? Full face helmet are cool because they protect well, but they are too warm, and heavy to carry on the backpack. So yeah fox proframe became popular because it solves these problem
  • + 1
 @DrPete: I had it on my head. Very comfortable and feels
Light. I would not pedal uphill with it in the summer though. They fixed breathing, but they haven’t fixed ventilation of the head, because if they would, it would look like Bell Super. As for DH. Come on... so what is Rampage Pro for? Also certificates are worthless. If 661 comp from 2005 meets all certificates, making it equal to D3, then sorry, there’s no point to bother. Certificates are there so that helmet at Walmart or Tesco provides the absolute minimum of protection, nothing to rely on when riding like we do
  • + 3
 @DrPete: when I first saw this lid in the press release I was full of anticipation because I wear a fully pretty much all the time. It looked like a proper mtb full face. But the second I stuck it on my head I hated it. It really wasn’t comfy at all (granted ymmv) and it just feels like a crap xc lid stuck on top of your head. Absolutely nothing like a proper DH lid. I stuck with the Cipher and probably will do for some time. There’s no substitute for a proper DH helmet.
  • - 2
 @DrPete: so if my head boils on a climb in this helmet so I need to take it off, I may as well carry a full on FF helmet. Off course it is perfect for people racing Enduro! When you get to 190 BPM and gasp for every bit of air it really counts. So yeah, cool product and probably a deserved win.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: the very fact that this thing has the same certification as ‘proper’ full face lids is testament to the certification being a load of bollox.
  • - 1
 Why so surprised? Dentists also need (fullface) protection! I think this one is as popular are $9000 bikes and $3000 wheels.
  • + 3
 @midschool: there is no such thing as reality, only perceptions of reality, which by definition cannot be reality.
  • + 3
 @airsoftesneeto: They are really comfortable and well vented so I can see these scoring big time with the race crowd. The clip on full face just aren't that strong (Bell Super) and normal full face is way too hot on transfers (you can be disqualified for not wearing a helmet between stages).
  • + 1
 @theminsta:

If you don't read the news, you're uninformed.
If you do read the news, you're misinformed....

I know this quote............ who said that?
  • + 2
 @Travel66: @WAKIdesigns: has enduro indirectly caused a downgrading of safety standards? A similar thing happened in skate and bmx when parks started to require a helmet be worn. Everyone started wearing non certified helmets cus they’re lighter, comfier, less bulky and less sweaty. I reckon there’s definitely a time and a place for lids like these and as always more options is good but if they’re being worn when really a traditional full face ought to be used I don’t think that’s a good thing. But I guess people are smart enough to make their own decisions.
  • - 2
 @marko369: Donald Trump during Iran crisis

@ThomDawson - I don't think Enduro did in terms of some "industry" driven "doctrine". People did it to themselves. I caught myself riding in knee guards and half lid on trails we used to have DH competitions in full body armor and FF, and I am much faster than I was back then. companies just roll out products that suit Enduro. If I was to race EWS like Finale I'd take a full on FF and a roadie helmet for liaisons. Then back protector and elbow guards. If I was a helmet producer I'd make a super light and foldable certified helmet for liasons. I don't buy the "fullface helmet is too heave yo carry on a backpack" argument. I climbed for hours with helmet on my bar and back protector on my back. In 30c. Just buy dainese protector which is fully ventilated.

Skate and BMX has a strong style and freedom identity attached to it. No fks given attitude is all over those sports. Look I am playin on me bike. Then you case the coping with your rear tyre... Helmet less riders don't bother me when I'm alone in the park. It does when I'm there with my kids. Some call it "loose morality" Smile
  • + 1
 @Travel66: Maybe there is an objective reality. But we, with all our perceptions, emotions and expierience that shaped our brain and our thinking have no way of knowing what it might be?
  • + 3
 Billions and billions of people are wearing this helmet because why? Because they are the greatest upon greatestists of all Enduro 9000 helmets. It's like rocket full for a small rocket man. How do I know? Because WOW! The only people who hate this helmet, it's because they don't have this greatist helmet. Dont believe the nay sayers or fact checking, that's fake news. And don't listen to my critics or "snowflakes" you know, people who cant take any criticisim, or they over react on social media. f*cking snowflakes. And facts, f*ck those too. I'm going to call them #Fakefacts
  • + 1
 @airsoftesneeto: When I first picked one up... it made me skeptical that it would protect anyones face. but supposedly it works?
  • - 3
 @bikekrieg: I'll put it like this, I had all of these (save urge) in my hands and on my head, all in fitting size. Giro seems heavy and hot inside, I honestly have no clue why would someone use it without the chin piece. It feels not much better than my hipster mod to an old used up D2 where I cut off the chin piece. Ok, some like it for style I get it. But I personally find Giro impractical. Now let's go to Met Parachute and the Super2R. Met seems a bit more solid than Bell but not much, which leads me to thinking that I would not dare to race Enduro in it and I would not ride in the bike park in it. Same goes to Bell. What they are good at is, that they give a this tiny illusion of safety and if you go for a trip to an unknown area, where you will ride for days, without shuttling, you just pack Bell or Met in and if you feel like: that's sketchy crap, you just put chin piece on. It's like buying basic traffic insurance for your car. A good thing with Bell is (haven't ridden in Met) is that it is a fully legit half lid. I owned one and I was quite happy with it for regular riding up&down in the woods.

Now, the Fox in question looks almost as solid as Giro, offers better breathing, and seems lighter. So there's some unique quality to it. For me at least, it's a smarter product than Giro Switchblade. Out of all if I was to moan about one it's the Giro. And only because the detachable aspect of chin piece seems useless, because otherwise it seems like a legit fullface helmet that i would definitely consider using for Enduro racing or DH/park
  • + 1
 @zede: No, I just didn't see many of them at a well-attended Enduro race I participated in this past September. There is a lot of time to stand around and notice these things in between stages. I never said anything bad about them, I was just surprised by the Massive Popularity remark, The race was in Socal. I'm looking for a new helmet myself.
  • + 2
 @tobiii: cogito ergo sum
  • + 2
 When I spend so much on a helmet, I expect it to have some more advanced protection that just old-school polystyrene. Even if it's a stylish polystyrene.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: What was wrong with your 2R?
  • + 1
 @tobiii: Sounds right to me buddy
  • + 1
 @GawiQ: It wasn't fitting my head that well in the end, it was tipping back and forward a bit too much, something that came up after I cut my hair shorter. Then I tried POC Tectal... and got a good price for it... I still have Bell as a spare helmet in Poland. It is really well done, high quality stuff, and I can recommend it. I leave the nuances of it being safe enough for some harder riding, to the judgment of a potential buyer. I personally don't feel safe enough in it to do any riskier sort of riding. The only bad bit I can think of is that goggles must have really good silicon stripe because my goggles were sliding from the back of it, unless I tightened them beyond comfort zone.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: If you already have one good "enduro/xc/whatever" helmet, this one is the perfect match, if you don't have any and want to make the step to a full face, buy the Bell or similar concept, you will have two for the price of one.
I have an IXS, so a Proframe was my option. About ventilation, I ride in Portugal, so hot weather most of the year (5 pm now and it's 13º), and no problems at all. And I hate hot weather btw. This one makes perfect sense if you're riding around 20/30 km of ups and downs. Most f the guy wearing Bells and stuff never have remove the chin protection for a 4 mins downhill followed buy a small uphill. Now in other areas you may have to climb 50 mins to do a one descend only, that's a different situation.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: The 2R had problems. The 3R is way better. This helmet... I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

For aggressive trail riders and endure guys these types of helmets rip. But they're not for DH or shuttling.
  • + 2
 @ThomDawson: exactly. the certs just mean that you designed around passing the certs. Not necessarily designed the safest helmet.
  • + 1
 @ThomDawson: The ASTM 1951-2 standard hasn’t changed as a result of Enduro. What has changed is that more manufacturers are recognizing that their modified moto helmets are overbuilt relative to that standard.

I actually did my best lawn dart impersonation in a Proframe recently and it did its job quite well. Would it be good for a 40mph impact during a DH run? Maybe not. But one should also consider whether the DH helmets are really necessary vs these lighter helmets for the types of impacts they need to withstand. And before you say there’s no way to know that, remember that the ASTM already did that math when they came up with the standard in the first place.
  • + 1
 @onemanarmy: Having owned 3R, parachute, and Proframe, the 3R isn’t anywhere near the dedicated FF helmets in terms of the feeling of security. The Super DH will likely bring Bell up to the same level if it lives up to the hype.
  • + 1
 @DonkeyTeeth: i'm not midschool, but you just brought up one of my favorite books so I had to chime in.

I don't display much in my home, but a nice copy of 1984 front and center above my computer is a prized possession.
  • + 30
 The only direct competitor to this helmet would probably be the Met Parachute. Both have ASTM certification and have fixed chin guards. I've tested both.

The Met is lighter by several dozen grams while the Proframe already has MIPS and a less beefy chin bar. The Proframe feels more like a full face lid as opposed to the trail helmet feel of the Met, however. Ventilation seems to be the same for both (we ride in about 90 deg temps here, or about 32 Celsius). The Proframe looks better and is a newer release.

The clincher though is that the Proframe is more than twice the price of the Parachute (about $150 vs $380).
  • + 11
 That's the sort of useful comment I want to read. Ta.
  • + 5
 Where are you buying your Proframe? They retail for $250.
  • + 1
 You can take the chinguard off the Met, giving you a very comfy and high quality half shell. Done it myself. Voids the warranty, but I'm more concerned with physical than financial protection. Was only 90 euro in the sales.
  • + 3
 I had a MET Parachute that I switched around with a Fox Metah, found the Parachute hard to breathe in. I got a Proframe as soon as it was released & was very happy with the breathability compared to the Parachute. Top of the head ventilation is good & had no problems during the summer months as my go to helmet.
  • + 2
 The detail : my met vs a friend's proframe, riding together, he gets insects in his helmet all the time, I never do. Something in the channels I guess, insects just go in and out of mine, not his.
  • + 2
 @Uuno: I never had the insect problem with either helmet. Maybe your friend just stinks.
  • + 19
 I paid $250 for mine and I'm VERY HAPPY with it. Haters will hate but the Proframe is confortable, super light for a full face, and DH certified. By the way Fox gloves suck! What's "the best" will always be up for debate but the Proframe is definitely a great product.
  • + 2
 Agree on the proframe comments, disagree on the gloves! I have tried TLD, Giro, Oakley, Race Face gloves, they all tear or wear out at the palm after 6 months, Fox last 2 years for me...
  • + 2
 @Mugen: To be fair my last pair of fox gloves were a lot higher quality than the pair I got 3 months ago
  • + 2
 Get the Fox mx gloves, cheaper and better quality. Slightly thicker top and Base, but still tactile
  • + 1
 @yeti-monster: Thanks I'll check them out
  • + 5
 I'll agree. And it's definitely popular. Damn near every 2017 model has sold at full price. I'd love to have found them discounted some time toward the end of the year, but that doesn't look like it'll happen.
  • + 6
 I think we need to call the speed police on the riding shot in that video.
  • - 1
 Lol i hope youre being sarcastic
  • + 3
 The beginning is fine but look at the end when the rider goes the rock garden. Definitely looks sped up
  • + 1
 Look at the jump in speed at 54 seconds.
  • + 1
 @650boss: Idk when i watched that all i was thinking was “damn that guy is SLOW”
  • + 1
 @sosburn: same, which is why I noticed the speed ramp at the end
  • + 3
 @650boss: Ya you can see it go from normal to sped up at 0:54, that shot was terrible anyway, jerky poorly planned drone footage.lll
  • + 1
 @tgent It looks like someone was running with the drone in their hands to get the close up as the rider rode past and then let go of it at 50-ish seconds
  • + 1
 honestly if a helmet was going to win this it should have been a Kali, based solely off their crash replacement policy. I have a buddy who crashed this helmet and has been bitching about the fox crash replacement policy ever since.
  • + 3
 I bought one of these last week, its gone straight back, it felt cheap and was very rough at the front. got the switchblade now from giro, feels in a different league!
  • + 2
 I have a switch blade too it is amazing far and away better than the pro frame.
  • + 3
 I've tried a couple of the Proframes on and it feels like they need to fix up the padding on the front of the helmet. The way it is now the MIPS liner digs into your forehead and is super uncomfortable unless the padding is in exactly the right spot. I want to like these helmets but I won't buy one until they fix that up.
  • + 3
 @RobSteep: I had the same experience when I first wore the helmet but after about two to three hours of use its stopped
  • + 1
 Take the Switchblade and put it on a firm surface with the chin bar straight up in the air. Push down and side to side on the chin bar. Do the same thing with a Bell Super 2/3r, a Leatt or the Proframe.
  • + 1
 @hevi: OK? Then what?
  • + 2
 Probably gonna buy one. My giro switchblade is great but i never really take the chin bar off unless I'm riding with a backpack, so would rather have a 1 piece full face
  • + 2
 Nah I saw a chick snap a chinbar off one of those at mammoth and mess up her face
  • + 2
 @conor-mce: snap it off the switchblade or the proframe?
I know at least one other guy that has snapped the bar off his switchblade
  • + 2
 @sosburn the switchblade. Smashed the chinbar into a rock and it snapped off
  • + 1
 @conor-mce: chin bars on other FF helmets break on impact too. None of them are indestructible.
  • + 1
 @DrPete: Well lets hope i never get to find out what does and doesn't break under impact hahaha
  • + 5
 I LOVE mine!
  • + 1
 The first time I've seen the Kali Protectives foam design outside of their own lineup. Haven't heard of any lawsuits yet, so it must be quite a bit different as well. I'd say that alone deserves some applause.
  • + 2
 IMO the Bell should have won i like the design better than the Fox but each to their own i guess.
  • + 2
 They're not even available to buy yet though?
  • + 3
 It's delayed until January I think. So it's more of a 2018 product??
  • + 1
 I agree but not based on looks. Based on safety.
  • + 1
 I asked someone at Whistler on what he thought of his. He said it was great, except that bees and wasps can fly in and cause a hullabaloo .
  • + 1
 It's just disappointing to note that teal didn't even get a look in this year
  • + 1
 never seen one of these in the wild. only ever seen a couple of parachutes as well (not counting my own)
  • + 2
 Are you kidding me? I've literally seen one of these split in half.
  • + 2
 Review please for proframe
  • + 1
 Google “Pinkbike Fox Proframe review”
  • + 2
 I’ll stick to my Moto helmet
  • + 3
 This makes me sad
  • + 1
 Digs into my forehead, like most other Mips helmets. They should size 'em up
  • + 1
 Ugh. Awful choice. The Proframe is awful.
  • + 1
 for sale in aus though 350 aus dollars eek.
  • + 4
 I paid $250 from Mountain Bikes Direct a few weeks ago on sale but I see they have gone back to $350. If you wait and watch I'm sure someone will offer them at this sort of price again - maybe on a post Xmas sale
  • + 1
 @AlanMcCrindle: @Hooch73: Same here, got it from MTB Direct on sale. Had one short ride in it on the weekend (with my grom and his mates); it was probably the hottest day we've had recently, and came away well impressed with the ventilation and breathability, even tho speeds were low. It's crazy light, but as others have mentioned the edge of the MIPS lining on the forehead can be felt - I swapped for the thicker pad on the forehead and it's been fine. I had thought about getting a Bell or something with a removable chinbar, but then I figured that's kind of beside the point - a chinbar does nothing if you haven't got it attached, and local trails are all short ups and downs ie nowhere I'd bother stopping to attach or detach it anyway. I'd still run a burlier full-face if I lived somewhere with shuttle or lift-accessed dh runs however.
  • + 1
 Who pays more, that one wins...

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