2017 Pinkbike Awards - Value Product of the Year Nominees

Dec 5, 2017
by Pinkbike Staff  
PB Awards

Best Value Product Nominees


Show of hands—who likes spending unnecessary amounts of money on gear? Absolutely no one. Well, aside from that rare individual who’s come to Pinkbike fresh from installing a golden toilet in their garage…. But speaking for the majority of human beings, value matters. Most of us want to feel like our money is well spent. The three products here are, in our opinion, three of the best values of the year.

Are there less expensive products than the Huck Norris, X-Fusion Manic and Bontrager Line Pro 30? Certainly. This, however, is not an award for Cheapest Product of 2017—we’re looking to find the 2017 product that delivers the best bang for your buck. Here’s why these three nominees made our list.








Why it's nominated:

Nothing banjaxes a ride like flatting a tire. Best case scenario, you waste five minutes repairing a slashed sidewall or installing a tube. Worst case scenario, you find yourself walking out with both a mushy tire and a ruined rim. The market, consequently, is rife with products that seek to eliminate the dreaded pinch flat. There are carbon wheels that are said to be unflattable. And there are a growing number of inserts and liners that promise to end pinch flats and their associated ills. Huck Norris is one of the latter. The product debuted with an outrageous list of claims—it'd stop pinch flats in tubeless tire sets ups, prevent your rim from being dented, make installing tubeless tires easier and even eliminate the need to use an air compressor while installing tubeless tires.

Here's what Paul Aston found during testing: Huck Norris works really well. Yes, the foam tire insert from Finland adds up to 240 grams of weight to your wheels, but it still weighs less than many other flat-protection devices, is fairly easy to install and, in our testing, allowed us to ride ridiculously low pressures on technical trails without either pinch flatting or denting our rims. It's not "cheap", but if you're not prematurely replacing tires or flat-spotting expensive rims, you are saving money in the long run.

From the review:
bigquotesHuck Norris lives up to most of his claims. An efficient way to add tire and rim protection with no added hassle. Paul Aston








Why it's nominated:

What are the odds that someone sees this carbon wheelset in the nominee line-up and immediately rushes down to the comment section to call us a bunch of silver-spoon sucking, elitist, out-of-touch jackasses? The odds are damn good. But bear with us for a minute. If you want a carbon wheelset, there are relatively few options out there that match the value of Bontrager’s Line Pro 30. We live in a world of $3,000 carbon wheels, which are at least $2,000 more than most of us think a set of carbon wheels should cost. Enter the $1,200 Line Pro 30s—which come in both 27.5 and 29-inch varieties, sport a nice, wide profile (29 millimeter internal width) and feature a quick-engaging, six-pawl hub.

The Line Pros are not the first carbon wheels at this price point. Specialized (Roval) and Ibis both beat Bontrager to the punch on that score, but the Line Pro 30s tick all the right boxes—good price, nice and lively ride quality, great durability and they play well with the latest crop of wide tires.

Not everyone needs and/or even wants a carbon wheelset. There are plenty of great aluminum wheels out there that sell for less. If, however, carbon wheels are something you’re considering, the Bontragers present a strong value.


From the review:
bigquotesBontrager may not be the first name that comes to mind when it comes to aftermarket wheelsets, but the Line Pro 30 wheelset is deserving of a place on any rider's wishlist.... they're a standout option, proof positive that high-end performance doesn't need to come with an astronomical price tag. Mike Kazimer









Why it's nominated:
For many of us, dropper posts stopped being an optional “upgrade” years ago; they’re a necessity. Unfortunately, plenty of dropper posts still suffer from less-than-stellar reliability. That’s a bitter pill to swallow when you’ve blown nearly 400 bucks on a post that suddenly refuses to drop or rise.

X-Fusion’s Manic certainly isn’t the lightest post out there (621-grams, plus another 46-grams for the remote), but Mike Levy found the $199 dropper post to be exceptionally reliable, easy to install and smooth in operation. The post gets kudos for an excellent thumb-paddle remote, which pairs well with just about any brake lever and is silky smooth in operation. Should you need to replace the Manic’s guts, you’ll be happy to know that the post is easy to service and that replacement hydraulic cartridges only lighten your wallet by 25 bucks.


From the review:
bigquotesX-Fusion has a winner with the Manic.... No, it's not the lightest option out there, but at $199 USD and a reliable design, the Manic is easy to recommend. Mike Levy

150 Comments

  • + 217
 Huck Norris is not good value. No way I'm paying 54 quid for some foam
  • + 28
 I will vouch they work very well, and even though they are just foam, I think I'd still pay the money instead of taking a knife to a pool noodle. Thats just me though.
  • + 79
 @madmax245 - look...Peaty could piss in the bottle himself, but he still buys Stella Artois...
  • + 42
 Without spending 54 squids how are you going to get another half pound in each tire setup? That's the real value
  • + 24
 *not cheaper than 12psi
  • + 60
 I nominate what one PB user invented. Moar Air Technology. Combined with the proper choice of tires, will work every single time most of the time and it's cheap too. Now that's value.
  • + 8
 @SKIGAN14: agreed. i paid $25 US for one to run in the rear and it's paid for itself easily. i can run normal weight tires at a psi that doesn't have me pinballing off every rock in the trail and it's as easy to install as that extra 12 psi. people seem to forget that tire inserts are terrain specific. if i rode where rocks didn't exist i wouldn't sweat it, but i live in rockville, USA.
  • + 3
 Huck Norris reduces pinch flats, but does not eliminate them in Arizona. They also have a lifespan of less than a season. It's also a pain in the ass figuring out what to do with the insert, when it does fail you.
  • + 2
 @half-man-half-scab: what about them wears out? Not trolling, legit wanna know
  • + 4
 @freestyIAM: my Huck Norris has a bunch of cuts and slices in it, nothing is falling apart yet, but I could see it
happening. I'm guessing it's from the rim cutting through the insert on impacts.

Still super happy with mine though
  • + 0
 @homedepot
  • + 2
 @half-man-half-scab: Arizona is brutal on tires, especially on south mountain. With the extra weight of Huck Norris, i’d Rather just make up the difference and run a heavier duty tire with sufficient air pressure.
  • + 0
 @jdendy: goat camp..
  • + 4
 @SKIGAN14: Looks to me like expansion joint foam flashing that concreters use - you can buy a roll of it at a hardware store for about $20 that would be enough to do several bikes. Its easily cut to width with a Stanley knife and then you could use a builders Velcro tie strap to join it, that's all you would need to do and would cost about $10 for both wheels and about 15 mins labour.
  • + 1
 Doesn't work either... Not in our experiance.
  • + 2
 @Boardlife69: I've been running the MAT system for years now. Super value.
  • + 3
 @literally: I live in Rockville also, except it's actually Rockville, not a fictitious and hypothetically very rocky place. It is kinda rocky, though.
  • + 156
 "value product"
$1200 wheels
$50 foam strips
$200 seat post
  • + 88
 welcome to the world of mountain biking
  • + 6
 @badillac: Maybe relative value?
  • + 45
 @whilgenb: not even relative. Crc have the brand x seat post on sale for £89
  • + 7
 @madmax245: and I can say its very reliable as well as cheap
  • + 68
 $1200 great carbon wheels in a sea of $2000-$3000 great carbon wheels.
$50 foam strips that save waves of $100 tires and $100-$1000 rims from needing potential replacement.
$200 good dropper in a ocean of $500 good droppers.

They are all good value propositions, relatively speaking. If you don't think so, don't buy carbon rims and avoid dropper posts in general. Huck Norris isn't for everyone, but for aggressive riding in rough areas, sure, I see the use.
  • + 8
 @madmax245: Put a Brand X on my Fat Bike, it's heavy but it is a FB after all...it is buttery smooth even when cold maybe even smoother than the multiple KS'es I've owned/own, insertion length could be an issue on some bikes but pretty hard to beat if you're on a budget.
  • + 5
 $200 dropper post is an insane value in a world of $450+ droppers.
  • + 15
 @bikeorski4me: +1 for the Brand-X. I got the Ascend XL 150mm post for £110 at chain reaction. Sold an old reverb for £115. Win.
  • + 1
 well put sir
  • + 3
 Dr Evil Air Quotes "Value"
  • + 3
 Value products that aren't boring. Are you looking for a Chinese stem for $5 or a Schwinn headlight for $8 to be nominated?
  • + 2
 @madmax245: convert that to USD and you are almost to $200
  • - 3
 Stupid BS, just getting gouged at the consumer end... per usual.
  • + 2
 @FLATLlNE: We live in a world where both you and @tylenoljones both have valid points.
  • + 5
 @scvkurt03: totally. It's all relative.
But we're looking at bikes getting more expensive because of all the new additions....but let's not forget you can still buy good aluminum wheels for under $500 (I've laced DT 350s to ex471s for less). Heck....under $300 if you are savy. And good rigid posts in the $30-50 range - carbon included if you keep your eye out for deals.

But $300 aluminum wheelsets and $50 rigid posts are nothing new and don't make for fun reading.
  • + 2
 @FLATLlNE: Valid points and I get the nature of the article, I'm just your average pinkbike user who loves to complain
  • + 4
 When did shit get so cheap?
  • + 2
 @badillac: he’s new
  • + 1
 @bikeorski4me: the insertion depth is the only issue with the x-fusion. it is longer than every post out there
  • + 1
 @FLATLlNE: no one is spending 500 on a dropper, more like 120-325 no one is buying carbon wheels at 3000 you can get it swiss straight from.china for 710. Pipe insulation is 1.
  • + 1
 @upchuckyeager: I had the same issues!
  • + 1
 @Gregorysmithj1: that's fine - but you can't quote street prices and buddy deals as a...pinkbike journalist?

And MSRP is definitely indicative of street price, fyi. The x-fusion at deal price will still be half of what a 9.8 fall-line costs, which the vast majority pay full price on unless they have some sort of great shop connection. Same when comparing envy to bonty - twice the mrsp, twice the street price for surw.

And despite what you think, some people pay full price for silly envy wheel also. As stupid as that is!

Meanwhile I have top notch Asian carbon hoops which I am sure are comparable to envy in most respects, laced to DT 240s, with fancy spokes and 900 CAD, or about 700 USD, total cost taxes included. And last week my shop has friends and family sale and the same bonty wheels above were on sale for that same price point - 900 CAD, 700 USD, plus tax.
  • + 1
 @FLATLlNE: xfusion is a great deal, the wheels not so much..
  • + 1
 @Gregorysmithj1: all depends what you are comparing too? What is the better deal?
  • + 1
 @tylenojones that was hilarious
  • + 1
 @FLATLlNE: I dono can't I just complain for no reason?
  • + 1
 @Gregorysmithj1: lol. By all means - have at it Wink
  • + 1
 @road-n-dirt: Incorrect the brand X would be $119 USD
  • + 1
 @jonser: Not including chainreaction price. They do not sell at MSRP
  • + 115
 I would like to nominate MOAR AIR as value product of the year 2017. It's $0 and you add it to your tires and it instantly minimizes rim impacts and pinch flats. 10/10 would buy again.
  • + 10
 Not just me this works for then, great invention!
  • + 8
 Quick....we need to bottle this and make a buck!!! Can you confirm it will be lighter than Huck Norris? Is it easier to install?? Cheaper to produce? I think it will sell...it's all in the marketing. But I fear if you tell people it's free you are shooting us in the foot before we even start...
  • + 0
 'Cept if you like MOAR traction...or not get bounced around. If you only ride buff trails and it ,make no difference, the Huck isn't for you anyway.
  • + 9
 @ReformedRoadie: dude. Clearly most traction is a seperate product. It's where you store your MOAR when it's not in your tires Wink
  • + 2
 @FLATLlNE: tell them it’s moar 29er air!
  • + 2
 @enduro29erHack: clearly there would be moar 650b, and 29er. I'd show 26 love too. Most air and most traction package deal.
  • + 54
 Real world value awards:

Some foam, cut to shape
DT Swiss alloy wheels
Brand X Ascend Dropper
  • + 5
 Or even hope wheels.
  • + 3
 I can confirm about the brand x and DT swiss.
Don't know about basic foam, seems just as heavy/reliable/damped to use heavier casing, which saves you some installation hassle too
  • - 4
flag WAKIdesigns (Dec 5, 2017 at 13:49) (Below Threshold)
 @Uuno: Huck Norris makes a lot pf sense for thin XC tyres. I think it’s also fine for AM/Enduro. You still need to run regular tyre pressures
  • + 1
 Have you ever tried the brand X dropper? for the price it has really caught my interest and is actually a value pick in my opinion.
  • + 2
 I have some left-over underlay that you put under carpet, not the foam junk but pretty dense closed-cell. I'm going to give it a try and see how it goes.

A couple of strips cut to width/length and a piece of tape to hold them round while I install the tire - can't hurt to try!
  • + 1
 @o4cobra335: I really like it. Smooth travel, ergonomic remote, no play at all. Better than the Reverb it replaced so far. Hopefully it'll prove more reliable. My only criticism is that the remote feels a little cheap, though not enough to notice it when on the trail.
  • + 1
 @egb81: yeah the remote is a bit of a bummer but it is also quite practical, the post itself though looks damn solid. I'll mount it to my bike soon.
  • + 36
 This article is all wrong. I don't understand the bike industry. My top three value products are a cottonwood stick I found, the dead bird I rolled around in and a puddle that the dead bird was near. These were all found on the same day. I fail to see how these so called "value" products can compete with these other offerings.
  • - 11
flag Tr011 (Dec 5, 2017 at 14:29) (Below Threshold)
 Well then why not start your own bicycle oriented webpage and review products you feel are relevant
  • + 22
 Why don't you go sniff that dingleberry dog's butt. That's what I thought, you don't do dog stuff. Just leave the dog stuff to me man. I got this.
  • + 2
 @Tr011: because dogs don't have fingers.
  • - 1
 @Dano-01: then how is the dog posting comments?
  • + 12
 @Tr011: bark recognition software.
  • + 2
 @Tr011: but what if I did have fingers and was still a dog? That's a real puzzler ain't it?
  • + 9
 @IamTheDogEzra: Would that make you a pointer?
  • + 1
 @IamTheDogEzra: Are you acquainted with a certain Dr. Moreau?
  • + 2
 @IamTheDogEzra for that comment, you are my hero of the day.
  • + 16
 Review of golden garage toilet missing. I can't decide between the SRAM and the Shimano; I like the built in bidet on the Shimano but after a hard ride, nachos, and beer I need the wider range of the Golden Eagle Bowl.
  • - 2
 top comment!
  • + 14
 Thought the Suntour Durolux 29 fork was going to make this list for sure, especially after that review earlier today.
  • + 0
 The review said it wasn't very good though
  • + 16
 Trailforks?
  • + 9
 Didn't they nominate Trail Forks for each category they had last year? I could have sworn Trailforks somehow won best AM/Enduro Bike...
  • + 6
 Trailforks is great but I want it connected with Tinder instead of Strava
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: why not both?
  • + 3
 @laxguy: because the first is the opposite of masturbation
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: but i don't want to bang a slow chick, shes gotta be fast and rad!
  • + 16
 Brand-X Ascend
  • + 7
 but they dont pay pinkbike
  • + 7
 For the same price (1500cad so around 1200us), you can buy a We Are One Composite wheelset with Hope hubs! If you didn't know, they are made in Canada carbon rims... !!! Bontrager or made in canada carbon mmm, tough decision! lol
  • + 1
 Light bicycles?
  • + 1
 @YouHadMeAtDrugs: Forget it, you'll never see those in here... lol

They're a little bit cheaper but I would still get We Are One if I would have to but I'm just not into carbon.
  • + 2
 @Timo82: same, same. I don't trust carbon, I've shattered too many ski poles.
  • + 1
 @YouHadMeAtDrugs: haha I have an I9 wheelset that is about the same weight as a carbon wheelset and I wouldn't take the chance to explode my front wheel while riding, only for the feeling.... lol And those who aren't exploding their rims, keep talking about the ''no question ask'' warranty anywayz bla bla. No, really not into those! haha
  • + 11
 Second hand things are better value...
  • + 5
 For solid value for money, it's hard to beat Deore brakes and SLX drivetrains. They're not new this year (not sure if that's a necessary condition (, but they're reliable, perform well, and have gotten even less expensive since last year.
  • + 3
 Or if you're "super fancy" go with the XT m8000 drivetrain and brakes. Less than $600 Canuck Bucks for everything.
  • + 1
 @plyawn: Good point - there's pretty good value to be had throughout the Shimano lineup. XT brakes are pretty damn solid - if the rather small difference in modulation between them and the more expensive SRAM brakes I've tried is the price to pay for reliability, ease of maintenance (I can do a quick bleed on both front and rear in less than 10 minutes) and not having to deal with DOT fluid, sign me up.

I think Deore brakes are the high point on the value for money curve, though. I put some on my son's bike - paid just over $100 for both sets, they came fully bled and ready, shortening the tube was dead simple and didn't require a bleed afterwards, and they've been awesome for a year now. No fancy adjustments - but man, I'm almost wondering why I went with XT for my bike.
  • + 4
 1. I have never needed Huck Norris because I don't build crappy wheels that I run at a pressures that I can't trust. Sure it would be nice to run lower pressure to kill vibrations and get more grip, but then the tyre can't protect the rim during jumps on rocks. I trust more in an appropriately pressured tyre than some piece of foam. That said, the insert internet hype is going for something more robust than Huck Norris. 2. Considering how poorly my X-fusion Slate is doing, I am not investing more in X-fusion gear ever again.
  • + 3
 maybe i'm a cheapskate but none of this seems great value to me . My carbon wheels were £400 from china .haven't missed a beat in 18 months of uk riding . thats good value i think. I also have the brand x dropper for £89 and have been impressed with it so far .You can even get a reverb for £180ish off crc .is the manic better than that? Am no even going to mention the £50 pool noodle .
  • + 3
 Santa Cruz wheels should be on this list. Yes, they are more expensive, but you make up more than the difference if you crater a rim. Will you? Maybe/ maybe not, but I feel like a lot of the people buying aftermarket carbon rims are the ones looking for stronger hoops in the first place.
  • + 2
 My $3 kids placemat minions mudguard is my value product of the year. It's done more to reduce maintenance costs and add pleasure to my riding than anything but my dropper. Second place vote to moar air. My big @$% requires it.
  • + 3
 Curiosity question regarding wheel materials:
How much heavier would you all estimate mtb wheels made out of high-quality steel or steel alloy be compared to today’s aluminum and carbon wheels?
  • + 8
 a lot.
  • + 10
 Steel rims: Light. Stiff. Pick one.
  • + 3
 Steel is an alloy inherently (otherwise we'd call it iron and that's pretty useless as a construction material). I think it depends on what you want to achieve. If you want high stiffness and low weight, you need high volume at a low weight (so low density) and that's where aluminium is going to win. But if you need high (fatigue) strength at a low weight and may even want a bit less stiffness (so a lower rim, for instance) then yes I think steel could work. It is doing great in utility bikes, of course. I recently built up a stronger rear wheel for my cargo bike with a steel rim and 2.5mm thick spokes. A big downside is that steel rims need to be roll formed so you can't really create closed profiles like they do with extruded aluminium rims. And a closed profile contributes a lot to strength and stiffness.
  • + 3
 @vinay:
Thank you for the explanation and I honestly know very little about characteristics of metals and thought I’d just ask!
  • + 2
 -> A niche product for mostly racers.
-> An extremely expensive product which has absolutely no benefits over alu-wheels - even though it is 'cheap' compared to most carbon wheelsets. Not even weight difference is that much.
-> There are cheaper, lighter and again reliable alternatives.
  • + 0
 you basically proved the author's prediction with your comment.
  • + 5
 Pretty sure LightBicycle wheels have a better price point than the Bontrager wheels but again the big names make the list.
  • + 2
 Also Sixth Element carbon wheels are at a better price point laced to Hope Hubs and EWS proven.
  • + 7
 pretty sure light bicycles makes the bontrager rim haha
  • + 4
 Very disappointed not to see a pair of moisture wicking socks as a consideration.
  • + 6
 What's a dropper post ?
  • + 2
 the best thing i ever put on my bike
  • + 2
 Adam Corolla had (has?) a bit called "i bet you cant complain about...." or something along those lines. PB commentors would be really good at that game.
  • + 1
 I would say that real value products are something like, Rock Shox Yari, GX or NX or SLX etc transmission, and maybe Guide RE brakes. Those products deliver well worth of they price.
  • + 1
 @alteregoni - I think The Yari is a great fork at a pretty compelling price. Definitely value for money. But looking at GX or NX compared to SLX, I'm not sure I'm with you. SLX is rock-solid. Yep, the cassette is a bit heavy. But it's creak free and lasts, and replacing it is a very reasonable proposition. To me, the weight is a fair tradeoff for trouble free performance and lower replacement cost. NX has a lighter cassette - but it's pinned. For someone reasonably big and heavy like me, that turns into a creaky mess after a little while. But hey, at least NX uses a Shimano-style freehub driver, so you're not locked in, and you can go with a Shimano cassette when it's time to replace it, so that's cool. GX, however - well, there you also have a pinned cassette, a drawback that to me is not worth accepting for the lighter weight. What's worse, though, is that then you're locked into XD drivers; sure, you get a little bit more range with that 10T cog - but you're stuck either buying SRAM cassettes (at higher cost, and again pinned until you get way up there in the range), or you have to buy a new freehub driver to switch to Shimano. To me, that's one of those things where you don't get what you pay for, you pay for what you get...

On the brakes - I hear the Guide brakes are nice these days; way more reliable than the Avids they've replaced. I hated the Avids that came with a bike I once had and replaced them with Shimano, because they constantly needed to be bled. Even with that problem apparently fixed, though, you still end up having to deal with DOT fluid instead of just mineral oil.

SRAM has been pushing really aggressively to get their complete groupsets onto lots of stock builds. The OEM pricing must be amazing, given that GX Eagle/Guide/Rockshox builds are pretty much the standard for mid-level bikes this year. But there's a bit of nasty hangover to the consumer when they then have to deal with the results of that later on. So in terms of value for money and troublefree ownership, I gravitate towards Shimano on that.
  • + 4
 XT group and Santa Cruz Wheels should be here!
  • + 4
 XT group already won last years best value product.
  • + 0
 @DIYsandvich: But XT is literally so awesome it deserves to win at least twice. And I'm a cheap SOB - if XT is so good it won *me* over, it's impressive.
  • + 1
 @pinhead907: This year saw 11sp SLX, as well as newly refined SLX brakes - that would have made a worthy contender for value product of the year.
  • + 1
 I get the carbon wheels and the dropper, but some insulation foam? It's heavy, takes up more sealant, and is a pain to put on, so 'best value' doesn't really come to mind.
  • - 2
 If it saves you cut tires, then it is a great value.

Pick all that apply:
-I do not live in an area with rocks that I hit at over 15 miles per hour
-I ride gravity casing tires for trail use
-I ride with 40 PSI front and rear
-I do not ride aggressively
  • + 7
 you've obviously never installed the HN. it's literally easier than installing a tube or pushing that last few inches of a heavily reinforced sidewall on many rims. my HN soaked up roughly 15 grams in extra sealant. i can run sub 800 gram tires rather than ~1000 gram tires so the weight is not a factor.
  • + 1
 "who likes spending unnecessary amounts of money on gear?" A would posit that a shit load of people absolutely love it. The proof is all over these pages and our trails.
  • + 1
 I'm willing to buy a Minion DHF WT Double Down, it's a 1170gr tire, I think is strong enough to never need that kind of insert am I right?
  • + 1
 Sram eagle GX was nominated for product of the year solely for it's great value. Shouldn't it make this list?

I vote for Gorilla Tape however.
  • + 4
 Oneup Composite Pedal
  • + 1
 Levy takes the cake. The dropper is something we should all use or could use. Cannot say the same for the Huck Norris or carbon wheels.
  • + 2
 It’s the mudhugger and it’s going to win it every year in my mind.
  • + 1
 Huck Norris has to win this! I ordered them for this season and had no flat this whole season.
  • + 2
 Yt tues is the most bang for the bucks you can get ATM and no mention?
  • + 2
 Pool noodle > Huck Norris
  • + 2
 Still waiting on that Manic 150 X-Fusion...
  • + 2
 Me too,spoke to the x fusion guys a an expo in September,who had the 150 on a display bike,said they'd be available within a few months.Still no sign of the elusive 150 yet here in the Uk.
  • + 1
 Same. Went with the brand X XL (150mm)
  • + 2
 How about the CrankBros Stamp 11 Ti ?
  • + 1
 Brand X dropper, Superstar wheels, YT and Commencal base models...is this really the best they could come up with?
  • + 2
 My experience of Superstar wheels has been rims broken in the most benign circumstances, poor customer service and soft ally freehubs. I know they're cheap, but from what I've had, they're cheap for a reason.
  • + 1
 @codfather1234: sorry to hear that. I’ve got some Flow rims laced to their hubs. Gave them some serious abuse and haven’t flinched. I had a poor fitting expander cog. Sent it back and got re-imbursed instantly. But hey, the dropper and YT bikes still count no?
  • + 1
 You can add canyon base models to your list, paid less than 2k for a spectral 5ex, and it's brilliant....
  • + 1
 Those wheels are pretty rad except for that giant logo billboard printed on them.
  • + 2
 If only my bank account new what of these "value" products you speak.
  • + 2
 My pick is Shimano XT
  • + 1
 I’m all about Huck Norris. Used it and no flats all year!
  • + 7
 I havent used it and I’ve had no flats all year....
  • + 1
 @Richt2000: you’re lucky!!!!!
  • + 2
 These choices suck.
  • + 0
 Its dissapointing that the giant trx1 wheelset was passed up infavor of the more expensive bontragers
  • + 2
 Passed up? Were the TRX1 wheels ever given to the PB staff to test? Anything that has been put for an award has been tested....

I don't know a huge amount about the Giant carbon wheels but what is the warranty like and do they allow a rider to test them for 30 days and return them if they don't like them?
  • + 1
 Giant carbon rims are not great. A guy in my ride crew has gone through 3 rims in one year. He's not a big guy and he's a smooth rider. Lucky for him the warranty is good. He's now on quality aluminum wheels -- no more problems.
  • + 1
 Bontrager Line Pro 30

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