The Alpine Trail E is Marin's first foray into the world of electric mountain bikes. The company has used its existing Alpine Trail aluminum 150mm platform and added Shimano’s drive system, with the brand new EP8 on the range-topping model, a mixed wheel size setup and coil shocks across the range.
Marin Bikes likes to remind us that it makes bikes for fun - it’s printed several times across the bike including the top cap - but it’s more than a marketing buzzword; this is truly a fun bike that doesn’t fail to make you giggle all the way around the trail. Anyone who has ridden an e-bike - a number that is growing fast - will talk enthusiastically about how much fun they are and Marin has done well to retain the handling of its regular Alpine Trail with the added capability the motor provides.
Marin Alpine Trail E2 Details
• Wheel size: 29" front 27.5" rear
• Rear wheel travel: 150mm
• Shimano EP8 drive system
• 640Wh removable battery
• 63º head angle
• Aluminum frame and swingarm
• Size: S - XL
• Weight 25kg / 55lb size large no pedals
• Price:$4499 to $5999 USD
• marinbikes.com The Alpine Trail E comes in two flavors, the E1 costing $4499 / £4295 / €4899 and the E2 tested here priced at $5999 / £5695 / €6199 with both bikes using coil shocks. The E1 will be available in December with the E2 following in Spring of next year.
Frame and Drive System Details Marin is also big on value for money and has eschewed an expensive carbon fiber main frame for an aluminum one just like that found on its regular Alpine Trail. The Multi-Trac linkage-driven single-pivot rear suspension is ported over from that bike too, dishing out 150mm of wheel travel via coil shocks across the range, driven by a one-piece linkage mounted to the seat tube. Marin then pairs that with a 160mm fork for an emphasis on descending capability.
Wheel sizes are mixed, as appears to be the trend for e-MTBs, with a 29in front-wheel and 27.5+ rear wheel. Marin says it reached this decision after much testing, concluding the smaller rear wheel increased the playfulness of the bike with maximum traction for climbing and descending, while retaining the rollover capability of the 29in front wheel. There’s generous clearance around the 2.8in tire with no mud clogging issues on a typical British winter ride.
The frame is packed full of nice details like bump stops on the down tube, internal cable routing and lots of protection around the chainstays. Oh, and there’s space for a water bottle cage with a 500ml fitting inside a side-entry cage. It’s tight, but it fits.
Powering the new Alpine Trail E2 is Shimano’s brand new EP8 on this range-topping model - E7000 on the more affordable model. Production bikes will feature a 630Wh battery, though my test bike had a 500Wh battery, and the battery is housed inside a custom made case and easily accessed by removing four Allen bolts. Charging can be done by removing the battery or using the charge port located just above the motor. The main power button is located on the top tube so it’s within easy reach and you get a display and remote control on the handlebar. More on those later.
Geometry Marin has been pushing the geometry of its bikes in recent years - I was very impressed with the shorter travel Rift Zone I reviewed - but the company says its “reach numbers are long but not too long” because it wants its bikes to by playful while being as capable as progressive geometry surely provides.
There are four sizes to choose from, S to XL, and with short seat tubes and low top tubes you can size up or down more easily. The size large I rode gets a 485mm reach, 63-degree head angle and a steep 78-degree seat angle, 340mm bottom bracket height and 1264mm wheelbase. The chainstays are 435mm across the range, only 5mm longer than the regular Alpine Trail.
Build Options Marin’s first foray into e-bikes provides us with a very simple range of two bikes. Both use the same aluminum frames and mixed wheel sizes, and there’s a strong emphasis on solid equipment choices with no real signs of corners being cut to achieve a target price.
The cheaper E1 uses Shimano’s E7000 drive unit with a 500Wh battery, RockShox 35 Gold fork and Super Deluxe Coil R shock with a Shimano Deore 10-speed drivetrain and four pot brake and Maxxis EXO+ tyres.
The more expensive E2 gets the latest Shimano EP8 drive unit with a 640Wh drive unit, Fox 38 Performance Elite fork and DHX2 coil shock, Shimano XT/SLX 12-speed drivetrain with e13 crank and four pot brakes, Deity handlebar and stem and Maxxis EXO+ tyres, Assegai front and Minion DHRII on the back.
The wheels are Marin’s own double wall tubeless rims with a 32/38mm front/rear inner width and there’s an X-Fusion Manic dropper post, 125mm on size small, 150mm on M and L and 170 on the XL.
My time aboard the Alpine Trail E2 was all too short, one local ride plus a trip to the local bike park for a day of gravity-induced smiles. That's not nearly enough time to form a well-rounded conclusion but it is enough to share some thoughts on how it performs.
I found the size large a good fit, with the 485mm reach in my sweet spot combined with a stubby stem and 800mm handlebar. Setup time was limited, but getting the suspension dialled in was straightforward, using the recommended settings for the Fox 38 got a good base tune from which I opened up the rebound and compression to my liking, and the coil shock was set and forget. Fitting a coil shock is a good move; the weight penalty is negligible on an e-bike but the performance it offers is so good. It’s supple and sensitive with good ramp up for bigger hits, and was a real star of the package.
Climbing is a comfortable experience with the 78-degree seat angle helping to make light work of the trickier climbs, keeping weight over the front wheel and balancing the power to scramble up some ridiculous climbs, while the short back end helps you nip and tuck through tight bends. There’s a lot of fun to be had from riding climbs you wouldn’t even contemplate on a regular bike, the only real limit is traction on the wet trails at the time of year the test was conducted. Tricking along in eco mode on mellow fireroads lets you conserve battery for the more challenging trails and when they arrive, the trail mode is the perfect setting for letting you scamper up root-infested tracks. The coil shock has a climb mode, but I left it in open the entire time. While it does move about when you’re riding, pedalling efficiency concerns aren’t the same as a regular bike so I revelled in all the traction and comfort it provided.
Pulling the bike out of the back of the car you’re reminded just how heavy and cumbersome e-bikes are compared to regular 30lb trail bikes, but on the descents, the weight largely fades away. Naturally, you get up to speed quickly, a few forceful stabs on the pedals and you’re up to speed - gassing out of slower speed corners, especially if you’ve made a mess of the entry, is great fun. But when the trail gets steeper the Marin is really in its element. I spent a lot of time well above the speed limit, but when you’ve got gravity working for you, the Alpine Trail E2 is very maneuverable. I was really impressed with how I could chuck it about with the ease I’d expect from a much lighter regular bike. Hop over jumps, hip around stumps, the agility of this bike is highly impressive. And when you come to a very rocky section you can smash right through, the tires and suspension soak it all up. I will say that despite its agility, muscling an e-bike around a bike park all day is a full body workout - I need to start adding some press-ups to my morning routine of drinking copious amounts coffee and scrolling the ‘gram.
With my bike having a smaller 500Wh battery than the 640Wh that’ll feature in production bikes it’s unfair to talk about range, but a day at the bike park saw me totalling 50km and just shy of 2000m climbing which I’d call a good ride. The new Shimano EP8 is a nice refinement with some appreciable improvements. The trail mode is much more usable in a wide range of situations, so much so that I never needed the boost mode even on trickier climbs. Shimano has reduced friction in the motor and this enables eco mode to be more widely employed on flatter trails to eke out the range. Heck, I was even able to turn the assistance off on flatter trails and I don’t recall ever doing that on an e-bike before.
The motor is pretty quiet for the most part and you get used to the faint whir. Thankfully issues with earlier units rattling weren’t present on this bike, save for a few instances when you can detect a faint rumbling but it never really became an issue or annoyance.
I didn’t have time to delve into the available customisation via the smartphone app, but toggling between the eco and trail mode was easy with the control unit, and as the boost mode was rarely needed I spent less time switching frantically between boost and trail as I’ve experienced in the past. The display unit gives clear readouts of useful data by as
Ralf pointed out in his detail first ride of the new drive system, I would love a percentage display of remaining battery level to just make it a little easier to judge how well you’re doing at conserving battery.
Marin nails the equipment on its bikes and this Alpine Trail E2 is no exception. It pays attention to what matters, from the excellent tire choice to the solid rims, reliable Shimano drivetrain and brakes (which gave no bite point issues) and sorted suspension. I’m no fan of the X-Fusion Manic dropper lever - the upgraded PNW Loam Lever fitted to the Rift Zone Carbon would be nice to see here, but it's an easy aftermarket upgrade.
Even though my time with the Alpine Trail E2 was brief, it’s abundantly clear Marin has nailed it straight out of the blocks with its first attempt an e-bike. By using the tried-and-tested Alpine Trail platform, incorporating Shimano’s newest EP8 drive unit, and giving the bike geometry numbers that maximize capability and fun on the climbs and descents it's a very appealing entry into their lineup. I’m already wondering how I can persuade Marin to let me keep the bike a bit longer...
Someone in your R&D department has their ear to the ground, and whoever it is needs a serious pay rise. This last couple of years you have produced some of the best bikes I have seen from a 'big' brand in a long time!
Good Work
Well you picked out one bike one bike in their line with a minor rise in the toptube so I would still say overall they are doing well overall.
If you look at pictures they have two sizes in that bike. The small has the toptube and seat stays meeting at the same point on the seat tube, The large size has them offset a little bit. I imagine the rear triangle is fixed in its design, the offset doesn't impact the frame strength, and the cost of production is lower is the rear is one fixed design. If all that is true then I can't blame them for looking out for us buy simplifying production to keep the end cost lower.
Have you seen some of the racer's bikes at a world cup xc race. A lot of the bikes have the nose of the seat pointed at the front hub. Not sure how they ride like that for two hours but I guess that ever set up does it for each rider.
I get what you say about cost reduction, but did it reflect in the the final price. I mean, look at the price. OH MY GOD. For that price you can get a stanton switchback and a half!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not to mention enormous sizing. Their line is, as I said, brilliant. But they look like in the need of ,at least once, creating sometimeg ugly.
You rode the large, but how tall are you?
I'm looking to get one as soon as they become available here, and at 5"10/11, I'm not sure if I should go M/L
Reach on the M seems just too short, and on the L it seems just too long.
So, let's make a recap: big electric monsters are useless...everywhere. Light and ultra-light electrics are best every/any-where!
I still do believe that a 24-25-xx-28 kgs misses the "target" of what a bike should be..while a 16-18 kgs electric isn't(my old big enduro was 16.5 kgs so, for me, it seems like a no brainer. Plus, kinematics are progressive, geometry even more so..., it's a win-win IMO)
I almost laugh when I think I have arrived at the point where I start to defend a/one type of electrics. Dios Mio, the world must be ending! ahahahaha
And I'd totally consider one if I wasn't too old and too much of a hack to lap the DH trails from the top of the hill. ha
The light ones are very similar.
To a degree it will what ones mates ride, that will dictate choice !!
But, you are correct..., of the guys have all turbo kenevos and sight vlts, sc bullits, etc-etc...a light-ish one would be the odd choice.
Then again, we can manage to ride together having different skill-sets and fitness abilities. I think we will be ok.
Most of us don't live there. I live in the flats...for me, it is either gravel or xc in the forrests near my city, where, in 30 miles you don't add up 800-900 ft of elevation. And I still see ppl with big electric Scott, Haibike and Cube bikes.
For me, it does not make sense as, when I go to the bikepark trails, I can use a big bike with the lift assist so I don't need an electric. I have explained, the only place an electric makes sense for me is in overmountain trips, a place where, a 16-to-18 kgs e-bike is more fun than a 25+ kgs monster.
Actually, this is my big problem(and hate reason) with the e-bikes. Ppl who are living in the flats, yet they are using 25+ kgs e-bikes on xc difficulty flat trails.
P.S. I can build a sub 35 lbs freeride bike. I know that because my "trail" bike is build with everything big enduro on it(DDs, 200mm 4pot brakes, hard hitting wheels, etc) but with all the lightweigh stuff that can be added on it(cockpit, carbon drive-train, etc); even if ai cange from a 2.2 kgs lyrik ultimate to a 180 38 or a 180-190 zeb and add a tire insert in the back, it will still be below 35 lbs. In fact, I will do just that as soon as the Nuke Giga will be launched.
I live near big steep mountains with long vertical climbs (and no lifts, etc) so I like to have the option of a little pedal assist (EMTB) but still have a bike that almost feels like regular bike on the way down. I like bikes that are light and try and pop off every obstacle on the trail. I'm also only 148lbs, so don't need a big heavy overbuilt downhill bike to plow through everything. Bikes like the Orbea Rise and Specialized Levo SL offer some pedal assist but still are light enough to feel similar to a regular pedal bike. I hope other bike manufacturer's (Giant, Trek, Pivot, Ibis, etc...) will also start offering similar lightweight EMTB's (36-39lbs).
I do understand people wanting a long travel superbuilt ebike though, as an electric motor makes sense to help pedal one of these big machines to the top. I agree time is a huge advantage for ebikes as you can get more laps in definitely. You also ride further and places you may not explore on a regular pedal bike. EMTB's are also good on days when you may not feel like giving it or even riding your regular pedal bike, especially on trails that have big climbs and would like some pedal assist. EMTB's are also great if you have any lower body injuries and you can still get out for ride. The best part is you can choose how much pedal assist you want, depending on where you are riding and how you feel that day.
If you live near big steep mountains with long vertical climbs, a EMTB totally makes sense to have in the stable, I believe most ebike haters have never tried a good EMTB or live in more flat rolling terrain where a ebike does not make much sense and all they see is older people riding cheap heavy ebikes.
I wish Marin would have offered a version in the middle that cost like $5200, with a RS Pike fork, but maybe next year.
I’ve ridden this bike while in development on all our best DH tracks. Said tracks don’t technically “exist”
Ironic? 100%, but we still have awesome trails that get ridden constantly. The authorities are fighting a losing battle so F them right in their A’s
Cheers
All I'm getting is a few might show up (in Vancouver) in May 2021. In MAY.