Norco Launches 3 New eMTBs - Batteries Sold Separately

Jul 14, 2021
by Mike Kazimer  



Norco have unveiled their new eMTB lineup, with three models whose intended uses run the gamut from trail to big mountain riding - the 130mm Fluid, the 150mm Sight, and the 170mm Range. All of the bikes use Shimano's EP8 motor, and have three different battery options. In fact, Norco lists the prices of each model without the battery included; it's up to the purchaser to decide what sort of capacity they're looking for.

Seb Stott has been putting in the miles on the new Sight, and you can read the full review of that bike here. We're also going to have an eMTB category in our upcoming Field Test for the first time ever, and the Range VLT will be included in that group of long-travel machines - look for those videos towards the end of the summer.
Norco VLT Lineup

• Wheel size: 29"
• 3 models with 130, 150, or 170mm rear travel
• Carbon or aluminum frame options for Sight and Range, alloy only for Fluid
• Shimano EP8 motor
• 3 battery options: 540, 720, or 900 Wh
norco.com


The shock mount is offset to provide more room inside the front triangle.
Tipping the Shimano EP8 motor upwards created more ground clearance.


Frame Details

The new models all share a similar suspension layout, with the shock now mounted underneath the top tube, rather than the vertically oriented configuration that was used before. On the Sight and the Range the shock mount is offset, which provides more clearance for piggyback shocks. Don't worry, though, there's still plenty of room for a water bottle. In fact, the large frame sizes can hold two water bottles inside the front triangle. All of that liquid storage capacity was made possible by the orientation of the EP8's motor – it's been tipped upwards, which also created more ground clearance, and allowed Norco's designers to achieve their desired kinematic goals.

The Sight and the Range are available with either carbon or aluminum frames, while the Fluid is only available with an aluminum frame. All of the head tubes are what Norco is calling 'super tapered' – that means there's a 1.8” lower diameter and a 1.125” upper diameter, in order to allow them to accept forks with 1.8” steerer tubes. It's a trend that's becoming more common on e-bikes, where the forces that a fork is subjected to are substantially greater than what occurs on a non-motorized bike. In Norco's lineup it's the RockShox forks that have the 1.8” tapered steerer, while the Fox forks still use the more common 1.5” tapered steerer.

All the frames have an integrated speed sensor on the non-drive side chainstay, which works with a rotor-mounted magnet. Other details include short, straight seat tubes to allow for longer travel dropper posts, internal cable routing, and molded chainslap protection.

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Battery Options

Running out of juice before the fun is over isn't ideal, which is why Norco developed their own line of Shimano-approved batteries that use 21700 cells. The new battery system has a greater energy density than the prior generation, which means higher energy amounts are possible at a lighter weight.

The batteries are available in 540, 720, and 900 Wh capacities, and are priced at $749, $999, and $1,199 respectively. Why wouldn't you purchase the biggest battery available? Well, other than price, there's also a weight penalty of 690 grams, or 1.5 pounds with each capacity increase. The claimed weights for each battery are as follows:

• 540 Wh: 3190g
• 720 Wh: 3880g
• 900 Wh: 4570 g

That means the 540 Wh battery weighs 3 pounds less than the 900 Wh battery. That 900 Wh battery happens to be the largest capacity battery currently on the market. All of the batteries can easily be slid out from the downtube for off-the-bike charging or for a quick mid-ride swap.


Fluid VLT A1

Fluid VLT

The Fluid is the trail oriented option out of this trio of e-bikes, with 130mm of rear travel and a 140mm fork. There are two models, the Fluid A1 and the Fluid A2. Both options have aluminum frames and Shimano Deore drivetrains, but the $4,799 A1 gets 12-speeds, Shimano MT420 brakes, and a RockShox Select R shock, while the $4,199 A2 has 10-speeds, Tektro brakes, and an X-Fusion 02 Pro R shock.

Remember, those prices are without a battery – adding the least expensive battery to the A2 results in a price of $4,948; that's the least expensive option in the entire VLT lineup.




Sight VLT C1

Sight VLT

The electric Sight's geometry numbers mirror those of its non-motorized sibling, with the exception of the chainstay length. Key geometry numbers include a 64-degree head angle, 485mm reach, and a 77.7-degree seat angle for a size large.

There's 150mm of rear travel, and a 160mm fork. Four models are available, two with carbon frames (except for the chainstays), and two with aluminum frames.

Sight VLT C1: $8,599 USD - Fox Factory 36, Factory Float X2, SRAM GX / X01 drivetrain, Code RSC brakes, DT Swiss E1700 wheel

Sight VLT C2: $6,499 USD - RockShox Lyrik Select, SuperDeluxe Select+, Shimano MT520 4-piston brakes, e13 LG1 DH rims, DT Swiss 370 hubs.

Sight VLT A1: $5,999 USD - Fox Rhythm 36, Performance Elite Float X2, Shimano SLX / Deore drivetrain, MT520 brakes, e13 LG1 DH rims, Shimano Deore hubs.

Sight VLT A2: $5,299 USD - RockShox 35 Gold, SuperDeluxe Select+, Shimano Deore drivetrain, MT420 brakes, Stan's Flow D rims, Shimano hubs.

*Prices don't include battery.





Range VLT

The Range is the burliest option, and its 170mm of coil-sprung rear travel combined with a 180mm fork make its enduro / big mountain intentions clear. The slack, 63-degree heat tube angle also illustrates the fact that steep descents are what the Range was built for. Who knows, maybe this will end up replacing a DH bike and a shuttle vehicle for some riders.

Range VLT C1: $8,399 USD - Fox Factory 38, Factory DHX2, Shimano XT 4-piston brakes. Shimano XTR 12-speed derailleur, XT shifter, SLX cassette and chain. DT Swiss E1700 wheels.

Range VLT C2: $6,499 USD - RockShox Zeb Select, SuperDeluxe Coil Select+, SRAM GX Eagle drivetrain, Code brakes, e13 LG1 DH rims, DT Swiss 370 hubs.

Range VLT A1: $5,999 USD - Fox Performance 38, Performance Elite DHX2, Shimano Deore / SLX drivetrain, MT520 brakes, e13 LG1 DH rims, Shimano Deore hubs.

Range VLT A2: $5,299 USD - RockShox Zeb RC, SuperDeluxe Coil Select+, Shimano Deore drivetrain, MT420 brakes, Stan's Flow D rims, Shimano hubs.

*Prices don't include battery.









128 Comments

  • 212 8
 So it's almost like a paywall? That's really stupid.
  • 39 3
 Please disable all other comments on this article...
  • 6 1
 Well dam... I'm surprised enough people signed up for Beta to make that seem like a good idea?

Course, if they throw in PB access for free I could see subscribing to Outside again? Cool pictures. Smile
  • 118 2
 Oh so you guys are just going to continue to post articles as if nothing has happened? Give the users time to grieve.
  • 75 2
 Lets throw up a bunch of articles to bury the death knell
  • 8 0
 What am I missing here?
  • 17 0
 I would not want to be the sponsor who pays for an article to go live today....though I think the eBikes are used to it
  • 12 0
 Dang, Well that’s pinkbike Fvcked.
  • 3 0
 Thanks for the link. If they add extras beyond what exists behind a paywall, fine. But if they go even 20% of current content behind a paywall, I'm out.
Example: Adobe went subscription based. I've been a Premiere user for years. Even though I can get mine on discount for $5/month, I'm out. Full on DaVinci Resolve for me.
  • 1 0
 @rrolly: Speak the truth brotha!
  • 33 0
 They should advertise the batteries as optional. You can either have a battery or the largest SWAT compartment on the market plus a riding trip to Europe!
  • 1 0
 i wouldnt even be mad if my bike had a swat compartment that size on my bike. no pack anymore and still got water for days
  • 33 5
 I always get a kick out of these product releases. Half the content from brands is 'this is how we're peddling (no pun) to your virtues and trying to get more people from different ethnicities, genders, and backgrounds riding!'
then their next article is 'hey look at the new bikes we're releasing that start at $3999 pre tax and you won't get it until next year, lol f*cking peasants'

just accept this an elitist sport and there will always be a certain clientele of people that are involved in the sport. anyone can have fun riding a donkey but when you take it to the polo club you're going to feel left out.
  • 13 9
 I can have joy in laughing on my ass as I pass by thoroughbred steeds on my ragged descents. There's happiness in knowing you can rally past $10k bikes on a jalopy
  • 6 1
 @Gmang: My Krampus looked pretty good on the podium a couple times, I agree... but I also agree that this is one of the more financially intense mostly main stream sports out there, and it is clear that manufacturers generally like it that way. Every time ANOTHER company comes out with an expensive stem, flat pedal, seat collar, imported bar, etc, that does absolutely nothing to advance the support but provides a new way to spend on matchy matchy bling, you are seeing the evidence of strong margins and low barriers to entry.

I also ride a crazy expensive e cargo bike, a carbon gravel bike, a high end but sensible for what it is AL FS trail bike, so I am the the elitist/elite.
  • 4 0
 @Gmang: oh 100%, and I have some old beaters that I will never get rid of, but the point remains the cycling industry keeps trying to grow it's market share as an industry, but they choose every route EXCEPT making bikes more available to lower income athletes. it's like if Rolex was like 'why aren't you guys buying our watches, we keep advertising with minorities so what's the deal?' as they roll out their new $250k cuff link set.
  • 12 0
 perfect:
"anyone can have fun riding a donkey but when you take it to the polo club you're going to feel left out."
  • 2 0
 Just revisiting my own comment... PB's front page add today is Yoshimura pedals with colorful pins. I rolled my eyes when they announced those however long ago.... A motorcycle exhaust company, making yet another flat pedal, with matchy pins, big money. Who couldn't find their dream pedal already? How are these actually different or better than anything else? Why do they exist?

They exist because there is still an MTB market cash cow that has enough fat on it/blood in it that if you've got some basic machining and supply chain capability and can buy an ad on pinkbike, you can make money of the elite.
  • 3 0
 I don't understand thus argument. People of "different ethnicities, genders, and backgrounds" can't have $4,000? None of the bike companies are running ads showing homeless people riding their bikes, or spending money marketing to people on food stamps. Why does the fact that bikes are expensive mean that brands shouldn't try to get more people from different ethnicities, genders, and backgrounds riding?
  • 1 1
 @charliewentoutside: Apparently to signifigant group of the "woke" mid-20-white-bread-urban/suburbanites Insta warriors on PB.You can't possibly be financially solvent and from an visible minority. "Yo brah, I don't even SEE colour." Then why didn't that comment get as many down votes as anything from "mods" regarding the buy out?
  • 1 1
 @charliewentoutside: the argument is just that their marketing strategy is stupid, nothing more. Nobody is saying there is any reason why people of color or any other minority creed can't afford a bike, but the cycling industry is constantly pandering to this new 'inclusivity' push, and acting like they're doing whatever they can to get more people on bikes, and people outside the norm of 'middle aged/middle or upper class' riders. But they're only strategy is to put out content like asking SRAM if it pays women as much as men, and some BS advertising about 'breaking stereotypes' of cycling. All the while, the bike prices and component prices keep getting more expensive, with marginal improvements on tech.


Bottom line, if you want to drive more demand for your product with a fixed supply, you have to lower your price to reach more demand. At the end of the day people vote with their money over their morals. Nobody approves of Jeff Bezos but everyone still shops on Amazon because it's easier. So unless they drop prices they're just basically releasing a memo that says 'hey people that don't ride, please save money and ride. We won't help you start, but it'd be really cool if you did.'

TLDR; there is only so much market share you can get from marketing, the rest has to come from adaptive selling practices. Something the industry as a whole doesn't seem to understand, its easier to release a 5 min video or a statement saying you're being more inclusive than it is to take a hit on profits.
  • 1 0
 @jethromtbr: were you wasted when you wrote this?
  • 1 0
 @TotalAmateur: I don't agree. The point of the "inclusivity" push is to expand the market. What you're saying doesn't make any sense; there are many ways to increase demand for a product, whether supply is fixed or not. Lowering prices is one, but it certainly isn't the only one. Appealing to new audiences is another. Entering a new market is another. Simply marketing more (or better) is another. Like, are you really trying to argue that the only way to increase the demand for a product is to lower its price? That's insane.

As far as the "morals" and "pandering"... you're aware that people of color, women, etc. actually exist, right? That plenty of them have enough money to buy a mountain bike at current prices? Why is it "pandering" to attempt to appeal to an audience that isn't the traditional MTB audience? Tons of people have the money for MTB but don't fall into the traditonal 19-45 white male demo.
  • 1 0
 @charliewentoutside: Lol nice straw man. No, I'm not saying the only way to increase your audience is to lower the price. BUT, I'm saying that with the number of pandering marketing efforts from so many other companies, cycling companies that do the same aren't really doing anything new. And, by their own indirect admission, it isn't working. My point isn't that these campaigns are totally ineffective, but lets be honest, what is a bigger deterrent for say a young gay black man looking to get into cycling: the fact that an intro mountain bike might be around $1000 to get something decent (not including $ for gear), or the lack of representation of his sexual orientation and race in that given sport?
People put a premium on price and convenience over morals, every day. That's why Amazon keeps making money from liberals and conservatives alike that supposedly despise Bezos and 'the elite'. It's easier and cheaper to buy shit from Amazon, and hence people compromise their morals for financial benefit. So knowing that, any campaign built on moral/virtue signaling premises isn't going to work as well as just making things more affordable and accessible.
And thank you for confirming people of color and women exist, I had long suspected but really needed your sophomoric confirmation. And again, sure these people have plenty of money to buy a bike, but just because you have money doesn't mean you're going to drop $5k on a bike for a new hobby. And from what I've seen, aside from a few brands, prices are not dropping.
TLDR; lowering the price of goods will absolutely bring in more riders, and I'd wager more than these ubiquitous social justice tinged ad campaigns. And it turns out black people are real! Thanks charlie!
  • 1 0
 @charliewentoutside: I'm really just tired of people trying to pretend this isn't an elitist sport. If it isn't, I have a gay Iranian nephew that would love a bike, can you give yours to them? Shouldn't people on buy/sell sell their bikes for less for the same inclusivity if selling to people of minority faith/ethnicity? oh wait, no because profit. So ya, end of the day profits>people for the community and the industry. Expecting people to hurdle substantial financial barriers because now they feel 'represented' is just retarded imo.
  • 1 0
 @TotalAmateur: "TLDR; lowering the price of goods will absolutely bring in more riders, and I'd wager more than these ubiquitous social justice tinged ad campaigns"

Well yeah, no shit. But since bike companies can't just magically make materials and components cost less to make this possible, I don't see what your point is. They shouldn't try to appeal to new audience or markets because that strategy is probably less effective than a hypothetical strategy that they could never actually employ?

"I'm really just tired of people trying to pretend this isn't an elitist sport."

OK, but who is pretending that? Your initial comment was complaining about brands "trying to get more people from different ethnicities, genders, and backgrounds riding." How is that "pretending this isn't an elitist sport"?

"So ya, end of the day profits>people for the community and the industry."

Again, no shit. But I don't see how this is an argument against advertising targeted at audience other than the traditional MTB demographic. Even if it's insincere on the company's part, it still makes a difference if you can see yourself represented in a sport or not, particularly for kids. And it certainly makes a difference for the athletes getting paid to be in the ads, getting sponsored, etc.

"Expecting people to hurdle substantial financial barriers because now they feel 'represented' is just dumb imo."

OK great. No one is doing that.
  • 1 0
 @TotalAmateur: No I am never high. Tried it hated it. ADD is enough.
  • 1 0
 @TotalAmateur: I agree about 30% with this comment. Ok 30% on this whole thread.
Guessing from your handle you are not the youngest person on here. Myself, I have been here since year one and I was older than most then. Bikes have improved (with in the constructs of a pedal only bike) My first real bike was a 1992 RockyMountain Hammer. That bike was $850 with tax. Now $1000 +/- will get you a decent hardtail that rides better (geometry), shifts better (design, materials manufacturing), has a suspension fork (period) and has light years better brakes (they were called "cantis" b/c they "canti" actually stop anything). You don't need full suspension or to spend $3000 to "get in the door".
As to why people want to bike... Well I grew up on the prairies, in a (bankrupt 2x, four kids on a single income: no money) non-sporting household, and I fell in love with the mountains on a holiday at 5yrs (still remember it). It was a dream, a desire to be "in the mountains". Wanna know how many riding friends I had in my home town until I moved away? Sure I am whiter than a pot of overcooked Uncle Ben's long grain rice, but by "demographics" I should not have got into riding either. The "culture" where I grew up was "If it don't take gas, why ride it / drive it?"
I don't agree that making bikes cheaper is going to create a LOT more mountain bikers for a lot of reasons. Some barriers are demographic (read financial); some geographic (what would entice the child of an immigrant in Regina, SK to take up mountain biking). Some cultural / background, guessing your gay (not relevant) Iranian (more relevant) nephew probly did not come from a huge line of active outdoors people, so why the desire to mountain bike? Personal choice. People will spend money on other things they value, how many people drop $600+ on a new phone every 6mos to a year. Video game consoles ($350) and games ($40-100/ unit) anyone? $60 name brand t-shirt. Money on booze and weed ect... and then complain about a "decent" bike being over $850? There is a reason that $200 Huffy is the machine it is.
I do agree that some of these ad campaigns come across a bit "me too", and I question their selection of their ambassadors at times. They miss the mark like only a bunch of white bike geeks can. But it will be that Image, video, story that sparks someone's imagination, enough to get them interested enough to at least think. "Maybe this cell phone will do me for a couple of years, so I can get that bike."
  • 1 0
 @charliewentoutside: exactly, nobody is doing that because it doesn't work. Hence increasing inclusivity through 'diversifying the sport' doesn't yield as many return customers as just pricing down your components. and based on your comments I'd imagine you've never worked in the industry and don't know what the cost for production is on a lot of these components. And nobody is arguing that inclusivity is pointless, but my whole point was that this industry, more than any other I am a part of, really likes to wave it's 'look how inclusive and in touch with social issues we are, bikes are for everyone' then also doesn't make a bike for less than $3k. I honestly don't know what you're arguing here?
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  • 19 0
 Leave the battery out and you have enough space to store a couple tents, cooler, and the whole family.
  • 14 3
 Is the $1999 price for the 900Wh battery a typo? It makes no sense that the 540Wh costs $250 per 180Wh, then the 720Wh goes up 180Wh and $250, then the 900Wh goes up 180Wh again, but adds $1000?
  • 3 1
 @mikekazimer the sight review article says that battery is $1199 not $1999??
  • 29 4
 The 900Wh battery is actually $1199 USD. Typo's happen to the best of us.
  • 19 1
 Oops, that's been corrected. I need to stop typing with greasy hands...
  • 15 1
 @mikekazimer: put the pop tarts down.
  • 21 0
 @mikekazimer forced into greasing the cogs of the big corporate machine.. you heard it here first ;-)
  • 2 1
 @norcobicycles: hurry up and send my c2 to Republic so I can get it
  • 1 0
 @norcobicycles: is the Aluminum Range VLT compatible with 200mm dual crown forks?
  • 6 3
 @mikekazimer: Popcorn addict or Pornhub ?
  • 5 0
 @Asamson25, bicycle maintenance.
  • 1 0
 I contacted Norco, it is not compatible with dual crown forks
  • 9 0
 I was just wondering how the bike industry could introduce another new “standard” that is completely unnecessary. Really looking forward to he 1.8” forks that will no longer be compatible with any existing frame on the market, you know, because we keep seeing all these eBike riders snapping their steerer tubes off from the extra 20lbs of weight that puts “substantially more stress” on the fork. Christ this industry is dumb. The bikes look awesome though.
  • 5 0
 And then they'll make a bigger board, with a bigger nail in it!
  • 10 2
 Oooof those battery prices. What a great way to pass the costs to the consumer.
  • 10 2
 Really piling it on today eh
  • 16 10
 *Prices don't include battery.

I don't know what's worse. Pinkbike getting bought out by Outside Online or these f*cking shenanigans Norco is pulling.
  • 10 9
 So.....you don't like having options, then?
  • 26 0
 @SpecSRAM: I think the better approach would have been to select a battery and then give people the option to pay x amount of dollars to upgrade if they choose. Just saying "batteries not included" is bad marketing. Even toy makers understand this.
  • 16 2
 @SpecSRAM: Are you fine with buying a car without a fuel tank?
  • 7 1
 @Almazing: not sure what happened with that comment. They are shorting you on a fuel tank, they just aren’t filling it up with gas.

I personally like the modularity but I think they missed some form of story with using a battery platform or making some type of promise around future interchangeability. If I can buy a battery now and use it on this bike and then use it on a future Norco then I’m buying into a system and I don’t have any problem with that. As a lot of E bikes continue to advance it doesn’t matter if it comes with a battery or not because the battery you need isn’t made anymore so you’re totally f*cked. I like that they’ve thought about that a little bit and it would be great to see E bike manufacturers buy into a battery platform much like the scooter industry has done so you just have to buy the bike and you can get the battery from anyone. But the industry is where it is right now
  • 4 2
 @usedbikestuff:

In the realm of electric things, the battery is both the fuel tank AND gas. So yea, I feel that Norco is shorting consumers by not including the smallest capacity battery as standard, then allowing consumers to pay more for upgrades. Hell, even my EGO lawnmower and string trimmer each come with a battery. Like, imagine buying one of these only to find out batteries are sold out until 2025.

I wouldn't be so annoyed with this if there was a battery standard across ALL eMTBs and you can just swap batteries between all brands. But there isn't. This is some shit I would expect from the likes of Specialized and Santa Cruz. I thought Norco was one of the good ones.
  • 3 0
 @onemanarmy: perhaps this product launch is pitching as battery not included. A lost of Norco dealer will have a bike in store with their choice of battery " mostly the 720" if you're interested by the 900 or te 540 the option will be there for you to order and pay the difference.
  • 1 1
 @Almazing: yeah voice to text got the best of me. I meant to say aren’t shorting you a fuel tank. I think the best company to reference is rigid tools from Home Depot. They give a lifetime warranty on all tools including batteries and wear parts. Their new stuff and batteries will fit my older tools so there isn’t any concern over the service life. Everyone is real excited about sustainability but there is zero exit strategy regarding how to recycle this stuff right now. I would much rather see universally compatible battery packs or have a brand present a strategy to tell me how my investment now will correlate to future product. If I can have my battery go to a commuter too, then buying into an ecosystem gets a lot more appealing. I’d be more likely to get another bike from that brand. *I had an electric mower and after a year on a half it was so depleted I couldn’t mow a quarter acre lot. Now I have gas
  • 3 5
 @Almazing: man, you're gonna be real disappointed when you find out this bike doesn't come with a helmet or riding kit either.
  • 2 1
 @dkidd: False equivalency. But nice try.
  • 5 1
 @usedbikestuff: I like the pricing and options for battery size. All other companies sell you a bike with the battery they think you should use. This way I can get the one I want. I, like you, hope thatthe battery can be used on other platforms in the future.
  • 1 2
 @onemanarmy: so you're saying 5300+750/1000/1200 is harder than 6050+250/450? It's the same equation essentially, and there's no confusion of how you get the extra power, obviously some ebikes have range extenders
  • 1 0
 @inked-up-metalhead: don't think I said anything remotely close to that but thanks for your time.
  • 9 6
 Really like the idea of them having modular batteries. I could see myself on a Range VLT, then sliding the battery out for use at the bike park. The lack of backpedaling from the motor + lower anti squat because it's an eeb means it feels like you're riding chainless. Low extra weight at the motor makes it jump amazing too. I'd rather jump my Sight VLT (with the battery in it, since it's integrated) than my Giga any day of the week. It just feels better in the air and on the ground.
  • 4 1
 Hopefully the battery isn't integral to frame durability. You'd need a bike designed around this idea, I think.
  • 9 11
 Lol... When you see an ebike at the bike park
  • 14 2
 @leviatanouroboro: an ebike might be someones only bike (my nearly 60 year old dad for example), why shouldn't be allowed to ride his full suspension ebike at a bike park?
  • 4 3
 @Ryan2949: I just like to laugh and have a good time. Don’t think anyone is trying to keep your pops from taking lift assist on his pedal assist.
  • 4 1
 Needs a 200mm dual crown option.

Why does no one make an aluminum ebike, with a dropper post, 63 or less head angle, and 200mm of suspension?

Closest I can think of is Specialized Turbo Kenevo, but that's 64 & 180mm.

Husqvarna Extreme Cross is 65 & 200mm
  • 1 2
 Haibike did, and no one bought it. Pole will make their 190mm ebike soon, and its actually priced reasonably. You'll just have to own a Pole.
  • 1 1
 @hamncheez: are Pole bikes reliable? The haibike doesn't have the right head angle.
  • 1 4
 @hamncheez: Just looked up the pole 63.5 head angle, and ridiculously overpriced. $5,800 for just frame, shock, battery, and motor.

It should literally be illegal to sell a mountainbike for more than 5k.
  • 2 1
 @wburnes: If you think thats bad, check Specialized ebike prices. Thats what I meant by "reasonably"
  • 1 0
 The Haibike Dwnhill has 63 head angle 200mm front, 180 rear, but not available in the US.
  • 3 0
 the 21700 cell batteries aren't to be sniffed at, they are about 8% lighter per watt hour than the EP8 18650 cell batteries & i think they'll prove to have more usable power in the last ~third of the battery capacity. 21700 cells are capable of higher discharge rates & charge rates compared to 18650.
i've been on a 2021 commencal meta power 29 signature (160mm/170mm, EP8 630wh) since november & read battery capacity to the 1 percent increment using a garmin. in the last third of the battery capacity, if you use anything but eco you'll drain the battery drastically fast--i've seen it drop from 20% to zero in a few minutes. in eco however it'll tick down gradually percent by percent similar to the first 2/3 of the battery capacity. i use EP8 assist multiplier 2/10 for max range e.g. 6000' climbing & 35+ miles of mostly climb/descend, & 3/10 when doing 5000' or less.

in terms of value & aesthetics i far prefer the commencal to these norcos. $7600 USD (up from $7200 USD since the first round of orders starting 8/31/2020) includes the 630wh battery, fox float x2 factory + fox 38 factory, XT drivetrain & 4-pot brakes & the same wheelset. the closest equivalent norco in terms of travel & spec would be the Range VLT C1 with 720wh battery at $9400 USD--it has a bigger & better battery, probably heavier with the coil shock & more drag with the maxx grip tires however.

check out the polished aluminum full ohlins metapower, it's a dream:
www.commencalusa.com/meta-power-29-ohlins-edition-2021-c2x31920253
  • 6 0
 Can anyone tell me how these bikes can be cheaper then the new Range?
  • 3 1
 they all have a significantly less complicated to manufacture suspension design than the new Range, and those prices listed are virtually unrideable as they don't include the battery that they need to function as intended.
  • 5 0
 When your special other argues with you but you have to continue doing "fun stuff" like nothing happened...
  • 4 2
 I think Norco has the right idea, allow the customer to decide size battery, next will be to let the customer select the motor Nm output.


FYI for everyone who uses the term "Mopeds" for an eMTB doesn't understand the tech.
eMTB's are pedal-assist, Mopeds are not-pedal-assist. eMTB don't go anywhere until you start pedaling and a Mo~ped will go with a twist of the throttle "Motor" or pedaling.
  • 6 2
 Why would anyone invest in a non-high pivot, non-mullet, e-MTB? Wink Gotta keep up with the trends!
  • 8 5
 PinkBike jumped the Shark and now almost every article is on what's new in the E-bike world. It's not even a Mtn bike website anymore.........
  • 1 0
 going by grams per Kw and price per KW, the bigger battery is the clear winner. Unless you are weight weenie-ing a 50lb Ebike, or even worse, buying an ebike you cannot afford(if $500 means buy/no buy....you should be looking at cheaper bikes all together. A f*cking toy should never stress your budget that hard), its a no brainer.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer "We're also going to have an eMTB category in our upcoming Field Test for the first time ever, and the Range VLT will be included in that group of long-travel machines - look for those videos towards the end of the summer."

Does that mean it'll be long travel regular bikes and the Range VLT will be stacked against them or can we get a comparison of a bunch of long travel ebikes pretty please?
  • 2 1
 It's going to be two categories - one with long travel, non-motorized bikes, and the other with longer travel e-bikes.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: excellent. Thx
  • 4 0
 PB dropping back to back fan service today
  • 7 5
 Pinkbike announces corporates ownership and that they will introduce paywalls soon, and then drops two e-bike articles.. yeah I might not be sticking around
  • 6 2
 I’m not buying an E bike unless it has a dual crown fork and no pedals
  • 4 0
 Sounds painful riding without having anywhere to put your feet, eh!
  • 6 2
 Bikes shouldn’t need batteries
  • 1 1
 A couple things I don't get. So it's a Fluid, a Sight, and a Range, only because of travel, where as other e-bikes you see the same suspension design and lay-out. Why did Specialized work to keep the Enduro suspension with the Kenevo SL?... Levo, etc. With all the work that went into the Range and positive feedback so far, I would be disappointed to get this "Range" without the same suspension platform.
Also, I agree with @Seb Stott that there's not much point in a 130mm e-bike.
  • 1 0
 Maybe Norco should focus on actually having stock of their existing models and parts available before releasing new shit. I've been trying to buy a bike for two years now and there's none anywhere.
  • 1 0
 These seem really expensive compared to the offerings from Devinci, Commencal or Marin. Like $1000 CAD more for similar specs and battery size.
  • 2 0
 That title is bonkers-well played
  • 3 1
 Someone corking out Champaign at the big S bike department
  • 1 0
 If the batteries are sold separately, maybe they are giving pedals included in the price?
  • 3 2
 weight doesn't matter on an e-bike on a climb when it makes an additional 250w. Gimme dat 900wh, pls.
  • 4 2
 Norco is learning price gauging from Specialized.
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 e-MTB look sweeter every year! I'm just counting down the days until I get my hands on one. The only thing I don't get is the 29" wheel size that Specialized and Norco are going with exclusively. Why can't they make bikes with 27.5/650B wheels? Bigger wheels mean heavier tires - not that it matters for e-MTB but still making the bike even more heavy than it needs to be for carrying on those hike a bike trips or for lifting it into a truck. Smaller wheel size has better frame geometry for shorter people as well.
  • 1 1
 Awesome new models! I have the Sight VLT 2021 and it’s a great bike. Putting the motor as they did is a great way getting more clearense
  • 1 0
 geo starting to look like a grim donut... wait does that mean this is the future...?
  • 1 0
 Range, apt name. I've no desire for an E bike right now but these Norco look good.
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 Just add the flipping battery price and sell it as a complete emtb. This is just stupid because we all know absolutely no one is gonna just buy the bike without the battery. Next it will be heres a 6k bike but you gotta drop another thousand if you want the rear triangle.
  • 4 3
 Get a free norco battery with 12 month Pinkbike subscription
  • 1 0
 Should have gone with a Bosch motor.
  • 1 1
 I've got the most recent range vlt. Any chance the new batteries fit in the old frame?
  • 1 1
 Those are none-removable, eh.
  • 1 0
 .... Nah mate. I'll give it a miss.
  • 2 1
 Hey Outside, paywall the ebike content.
  • 3 2
 5k for a aluminium Frown
  • 3 0
 Aluminum is better than carbon
  • 6 5
 Mopeds Frown
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 Prices DON'T include battery?!?
  • 1 2
 Shouldn't judge the book by its cover but Norco doesn't make sexy bikes except the newest high-pivot one...
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 You should pay us to read your shitty ebike content
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