5 Things We Learned from Red Bull Hardline Tasmania

Feb 27, 2024
by Sarah Moore  
A fresh track and the first day of practice is often a recipe for a few little lie downs.

1. The big features get the limelight, but the technical sections are what make or break a race run.

It's often hard to show in photos and videos how steep and technical a race track is, but it's comparably easy to make a gap jump or the container drop look massive when you've got a rider for scale. While Red Bull Hardline Tasmania highlights included the Midline Gap, Log Jam, Cliff, Whoops, Road Gap, Crooked Cannon, and Greek Gap, the sections that took riders out were nameless sections of the 2.3km track with 575m of elevation loss.

Neither of Louise Ferguson's two crashes were on one of the drops or massive jumps that Red Bull Hardline is known for and Thomas Genon and Dan Booker both crashed on the same slippery technical section within 15 seconds of the start gate. It was a section of track that the riders still at the top waiting for their start time could practically see from the start gate, and definitely could hear.

Most notably, 2022 winner Jackson Goldstone also hit the ground and most likely tore his MCL on what looked like a relatively benign section of track near the top after commentating a play by play course preview earlier in the week that made the insane track look like a ride through the park.


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2. The women are just getting started.

When Gracey Hemstreet crossed under the Red Bull Hardline finish line arch she made history as the first woman to ever finish a top to bottom Red Bull Hardline race run. It was a momentous occasion, not just because Hemstreet managed to link together all the features from the course, but also because it has been three years in the making. Minutes later, Louise Ferguson crossed the line as well after a gutsy ride, sending all the features and the final 70 footer despite two crashes.

Jess Blewitt was the first woman to ride at Red Bull Hardline in Wales in 2022 before a group of six women took on the Wales course in 2023. That event ended up being cancelled due to high winds, but for 2024, the women had earned spots on the rider list for the first time.

Tahnee Seagrave, Louise-Anna Ferguson, Cami Nogueira, Hannah Bergemann, Gracey Hemstreet and Harriet Burbidge-Smith ticked off feature after feature on the Tasmania course and if there hadn't been high winds and rain on the final practice day, more of them would have undoubtedly hit the final jump. It sounds like it was the only feature that the rest of the women needed to tick off to complete a top to bottom run.

Without a dedicated women's category and prize money, Seagrave said on the broadcast that there wasn't the pressure of winning and the women worked together and encouraged one another to piece together the course throughout the week, as did all riders by the sound of it. The next logical step in this progression is a women's category and prize money.


Red Bull Hardline Tasmania 2024 Podium

3. The prize money is much better than at a World Cup DH.

Speaking of which, the prize money is really good. While some of the top World Cup downhill riders were in attendance, many more were either not invited, or turned down their invitations like Loïc Bruni and Vali Höll. Bruni got quite a lot of heat in the Pinkbike comments for first appearing on the start list, but then deciding not to compete. He's no stranger to Red Bull Hardline however, placing third at the inaugural event in Wales in 2014. We haven't seen his name on a Red Bull Hardline start list since.

The tracks might be gnarlier, but the field of riders isn't as deep and so the risk of Red Bull Hardline is obviously worth the reward and recognition for many riders. Wyn Masters suggests that it is a hefty sum compared to what a World Cup DH win gets you when he interviewed Ronan Dunne for WynTV so I did some digging.

Craig Evans received £7000 ($8,879 USD) prize money for winning Red Bull Hardline Wales in 2017, but in 2024, a winner gets £12,000 ($15,220 USD). That's more than triple what you'd take home for winning a World Cup DH round at €3,750 ($4,066 USD) for the winner. A World Championships win won't come anywhere near that at €5000 ($5,422 USD) prize money. Even if you win the UCI DH World Cup overall you won't earn near that amount, with €10000 ($10,845 USD) on the line for the overall winner. There's also an appearance fee of £2,100 ($2,663 USD) for Red Bull Hardline.

Of course, many sponsors will also give riders bonuses for their World Cup podiums and so it's an individual choice for each rider. As with any start line, it's never certain that you'll make it through practice and race day without a few crashes and we hope to see Jackson Goldstone back on the bike in time for Fort William on May 3rd in Fort William.


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4. Bernard Kerr is still the man to beat at Red Bull Hardline.

Bernard Kerr's track record is like none other in the past decade of Red Bull Hardline with a second place in 2015, win in 2016, second place in 2017, second in 2018, win in 2019, win in 2021 and a second place in 2024. He didn't attend in 2014, there was no event in 2020, and in 2023 the event was cancelled. The only year he raced and didn't finish on the podium was in 2022.

That means that out of eight Red Bull Hardline events he's taken part in, he's podiumed in seven. He's the only person to win the event more than once with a trifecta of wins in 2016, 2019 and 2021. Danny Hart won in 2014, Ruaridh Cunningham in 2015, Craig Evans in 2017, Gee Atherton in 2018, Jackson Goldstone 2022, and Ronan Dunne in 2024.

Kerr said on WynTV that he was distracted during his run on Saturday and was gutted not to take the win, but we look forward to seeing what he can do in Wales this time around.

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5. Red Bull pulled off a delayed broadcast.

The trio of Rob Warner, Eliot Jackson and Tahnee Seagrave did a great job of covering the event, but an interesting fact was that the event wasn't live. There aren't many places you'd be able to pull off an event and embargo race results until the end of a time-delayed broadcast, but Red Bull was able to do just that by hosting Hardline Tasmania in a remote part of the world.

I often end up watching race replays for World Cups since they're usually sometime in the wee hours of the morning in my time zone and I ended up doing the same thing with the Red Bull Hardline broadcast, but it's almost laughable to imagine that working for an event like Red Bull Rampage or a World Cup DH, where fans lining the track would be able to share the results with their audiences live on social media.


Other fun facts:
- The course took approximately 7,500 hours to build.
- The geology on the course changes three times, which resulted in totally different rock and soil types for riders to contend with.
- Reed Boggs said he struggled with how long the course was compared to a 30 second Rampage run and he couldn't remember all the features. On the live broadcast, you can hear him say "darn, forgot about that one" when he got hung up on a rock.
- Likewise, Matt Jones said that he normally competes for 30 seconds and mostly rides dirt jumps and air bags. This was his first downhill race as an adult.
- While many riders were kicking off the season on new teams with fresh frames and different components, Dennis Luffman jumped straight on a fresh Atherton bike for Hardline. He had had his bike for two seasons and it had two World Cup seasons and two Hardlines under it so Dan Atherton decided it shouldn't contend with another Red Bull Hardline course and loaned him a bike. He finished 18th.

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167 Comments
  • 380 1
 6. Warner is still the one to beat in the box. We miss you Rob.
  • 33 31
 I too really enjoyed having Rob and Eliot back on the mics commentating. And having Tahnée in there with them until Kaos completed his run was a sweet added bonus too!

I will comment though, that in spite of a self-imposed (and for once successfully carried out) media blackout prior to my watching the event (so as to not accidentally see any spoilers as to who won), Rob's little slip of the tongue at 1:58:01 as Ronan neared the finish line did somewhat kill the suspense of watching the last few riders come down the mountain :

"Ronan Dunne is gonna take the win...er ... take the lead, excuse me..." ‍♂️
  • 38 1
 @Bajora63: you misunderstood
  • 77 0
 @Bajora63: the commentary was live. That was just a slip of the tongue. I think it’s Ed Masters vlog you can see that the crowd is watching it on screens as the race was happening. Was just delayed on redbull tv
  • 2 3
 @bgoldstone: any relation?
  • 2 2
 @bgoldstone: ahh, sorry if I have to explain it
  • 4 0
 @skiwenric: I’m Jack and Bailey’s uncle if that’s what you were asking.
  • 1 0
 @bgoldstone: yes, please pass on healing vibes
  • 129 0
 How is the prize money for winning a World Cup race so pathetic? The riders deserve more than $4k for winning the sport's premier races!
  • 33 1
 Risking your life for $4K... no thank you.

On another note, RIP Jayo Archer.
  • 3 0
 As with most of these scenarios, it seems it goes to the suits and pencil pushers as it were. (And riders are expected to be grateful for the privilege to scratch and claw for sponsor money on their own.)
  • 34 1
 Have you seen the UCI HQ? Someones gotta pay the electric bill + executive bonuses.
  • 4 0
 Can it really be considered a premier race if the racers are getting paid peanuts?
  • 2 0
 Spot on. Sure maybe the factory team riders and other sponsored athletes may get bonuses that would top it up but that's ridiculously low prize money. And it's not like the UCI is short of any cash. And this is a career for these people Damn it though, really makes me especially feel for the privateers. Just think about it...even if you ever fluked it and actually, somehow managed to win a single race...it probably wouldn't even cover the cost of your airfares, hotel accommodation and the rest. Wonder if the XC pay is any different. Doubt it.
  • 20 5
 @SBdhmtb: not even that. Imagine winning 4 rounds and the overall. €25,000. That's £21,382. UK minimum wage is about to go to £11.44 an hour. If you work 40 hours a week, 48 weeks a year. That's £21,964. So me, doing menial work shelf stacking or flipping burgers, would earn more money in a year than the worlds best dh racer earned from the uci. That's Pathetic.
  • 17 1
 There's always moaning about prize money
on PB but it's really a lack of perspective from people who see the sports world from a mountain bike PoV.
Downhill mountain biking is not a big sport globally, it is niche and as a televised event it has little interest to the general sports viewing public. A lot probably find it really boring to watch if they no intrinsic obsession with bikes.
Funding prize money is heavily tied to viewership regardless of the risk involved.
It isnt a charity you dont pay more just because it's risky - just look at some even riskier niche sports and look at pay.
For reference cyclo-cross UCI is on a par with UCI Mtb prize money.

English professional cricketers (cricket is a massively popular game and mainstream sport worldwide [aside from Americas] and televised in many countries) on central contracts only earn £30k! Ignoring sponsorship.
  • 5 2
 @puukkopedro: Sadly true and anyone who disagrees is a communist.
  • 6 0
 Risk aside, the stage winners at the Tour get something like $12k and that's likely the best known bike race in the world with a massive TV audience. Seems proportionate to me.

[Of course the overall winner gets c€500k, but I'm not going there]

Still sucks though.
  • 5 0
 @CrookedCrank: The winner shares that money out to the other riders, and staff.....that's how it's always been done.
  • 3 0
 @puukkopedro: Only the other day the CX season prize money was revealed; the top woman earned approx $125,000 for the season.....that's from World Cups, Superprestige and other races.....
  • 14 0
 @puukkopedro: Sorry but the money is there it just isn't being shared with the athletes. The UCI are reeling it in with TV money, sponsorships AND venue fees. They don't even pay the prize money for WC rounds, it's the venues that do.

So you have a venue that pays to host the race, a broadcaster who pays to show it, teams who pay to be there, sponsors who pay for branding, and then you have the UCI who do f*ck all.

There is no way to look at it other than being completely unfair. Greed wins.
  • 5 0
 @puukkopedro: I’m sadly old enough to remember early ‘80’s BMX racing in the USA where they raced for big money and often a Porsche 911 or similar. I’m sure casual viewers would tune in to DH racing if there was something impressive on the line. I mean, folks watch snooker and darts for goodness sake! But there’s a gladiatorial element, winner takes a huge prize, people like to see that. My 2 cents….
  • 4 2
 @puukkopedro: 84 million views across all uci MTB media accounts in 2023. That's a lot of views to pay less than minimum wage to the only reason those views exist. No riders, no race, no money.

And actually, every other high risk job in the world gets bonus pay. Rail line workers get paid double grounds workers doing the same jobs in a safer environment.

Woe is uci isn't a good stance to take, it's like arguing Jeff bezos shouldn't pay his workers a fair wage because it was his idea.
  • 5 1
 @inked-up-metalhead: every other high risk job in the world gets bonus pay? In developing countries, which is most of the world's population, you don't get rewarded for doing shit jobs. You do shit jobs because you have nothing better
  • 1 0
 @inked-up-metalhead: but you wouldn’t get to ride your bike as much.

I agree the winnings are pitiful and the costs immense
  • 1 5
flag chrismac70 FL (Feb 28, 2024 at 4:52) (Below Threshold)
 That’s 4k more than you get for wining an F1 race from the promotors.
  • 1 5
flag chrismac70 FL (Feb 28, 2024 at 4:53) (Below Threshold)
 @vitaflo: that’s down to their employers what they get paid. Many of the top riders are earning over 100k per season plus expenses
  • 1 5
flag chrismac70 FL (Feb 28, 2024 at 4:55) (Below Threshold)
 @SBdhmtb: privateers might still be earning a salary add up of bits from various sponsors depending on what they have negotiated. They will never be as much as the factory teams as that’s where the best riders end up
  • 1 2
 @CrookedCrank: of which the winner gets none of it. By convention the winners prize money is shared across the rest of the team as a thank you for the support. The winner is happy to do this as the will make way more in commercial agreements they can get off the back of the win
  • 1 0
 I think there are regional xc mtb races with $500+ for 1st smh. I thought they were going to say hardline winner gets 50k or something.
  • 1 1
 Because the WC is about making money for the organisers from the risks / effort of the riders.
Redbull Hardline not so much
  • 1 0
 @puukkopedro: While I sort of agree with you, isn't this event and others like the Fox US MTB Open proof that more prize money is possible for a professional mountain bike event? It's the same sport yet somehow others are able to pony up larger purses than the UCI.
  • 1 0
 @yoimaninja: it is possible but UCI is just the rubber stamp authority that holds the legitimacy as the governing body of cycling. It's not out there to run things, it just needs to make sure the rules are followed, for the most part.
  • 1 0
 To play devil's advocate: say the prize money alone was enough to sustain every single world cup rider (or maybe make it livable for the top 30, good for the top 20, and really lucrative for the top 10.) These riders wouldn't need to have any sponsorship, wouldn't be out promoting brands, etc. Would that be better or worse for the sport? It would turn the world cup into being 100% racing and take away the part that's about promoting mountain biking, but on the other hand it would make the fortunes of MTB less tied to the whims of big name sponsors (Red Bull, Mercedes, etc.)

My personal opinion is that top level events like world cups should give out more prize money if they want to stay relevant/ ward off rival series like Hardline, but that prize money alone will never sustain mountain bike racing and we'll always have to rely on brand sponsorships.
  • 3 0
 There is no money cycling as it compares to many mainstream sports. In order to get money into a sport, it needs to be easy for non-participants to consume as entertainment. Very few cycling disciplines translate well as an entertainment product. Let's use the NBA as an example - 20,000 seat arena, 82 games per year, easily captured on video for the TV audience, and 12 players on the team. It is much easier to generate a lot of money for each athlete. Cycling is a lifetime sport, so there are less out of shape has-beens living out there dreams through a television. Cyclist are out riding - not dreaming about the good ol' days.
  • 3 0
 @puukkopedro: people think athletes are "paid to play the sport" and that is not at all true. They are paid to generate revenue for the people paying them. In theory, the more you make for your "employer" the more they pay you. In the big picture, professional mtn bikers are in a tiny niche sport. And if they ride for a large team they are getting a salary/contract wage AND whatever bonuses come with winning on top of their race purse. So they are doing OK, or they would choose something else. Even the privateers willingly take the "crap pay" for love of the sport.
  • 1 0
 @PB-J: Skateboarders making multi millions is another one. These poor bikers are getting royally shafted.
  • 59 0
 Tahnee did a great job. Her experience on the track added to the dialog during the race. And, Rob and Elliot are always a hit.
  • 3 0
 I was thinking exactly the same, Tahnee is a natural!
  • 56 0
 I find it strange that prize money isn't public info and I wasn't aware that prize money for world cup's was such a complete joke.
  • 6 0
 Here's some transparency.

www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1139673/uci-loss-lappartient-bonus

All you gotta do to keep up is win 150 World Cups.
  • 48 2
 Let's just get rid of all UCI products and grow the alternatives
  • 1 12
flag Starch-Anton (Feb 28, 2024 at 1:55) (Below Threshold)
 UCI don't run the World Cup anymore.....It's Discovery/ESO....
  • 3 0
 @Starch-Anton: yeah but they own the rights so it kind of is their product even if they don't produce it
  • 9 11
 Yes, the amazing alternative of having a fizzy drink company invite a few of riders for a race with no real qualifying system, no junior category and no sanctioning body. Very healthy system for the sport as a whole. Not that the UCI doesn't get shit wrong, but a world cup series is a completely different product than this and Hardline is in no way an alternative.
  • 37 0
 10k for winning the WC overall?? Wtf !
  • 9 5
 Welfare pays more than that significantly!
  • 5 0
 Yeah obviously you expect the top earners to likely be winning that anyway but imagine winning it as one of the lesser known riders (which I think happened in 2020). Performing as the top downhill athlete in the premier series and walking away with potentially less than a minimum wage workers annual take...
  • 11 1
 Travel the world, get paid to ride your bike with friends or grind a 9 to 5 in a cubicle?
Count your blessings instead of your money. Nothing beats having a million good days.
  • 5 1
 @Exbow: Except for eating and housing and the cost of everyday life, sure.
  • 2 0
 @grnmachine02: That's when the Only Fans sponsorship comes in handy.
  • 25 0
 Louise was such a trooper to finish her run with two crashes, the second was mean! Honestly one of the biggest standouts for me watching the stream. Having both those crashes and still finishing out her run was super inspiring. Great event and was awesome to see the positive feedback from riders, seems like everyone really enjoyed themselves and the format.
  • 3 0
 I fall over in a bush and I'm nervous riding xc trails for the next 2 hrs
  • 45 21
 Calling Bernard the man to beat is disrespectful to Ronan. Bernard has not won the last two rounds, Ronan was fourth at his first, barely missing the podium in 2022. His best days are still to come I think.
  • 48 13
 The opposite I think. Huge props to Ronan to best Bernard at Hardline. We all know BK is at another level of confidence and speed at these events.
  • 3 2
 Kerr was clearly off on his run, we've all had days like that and I can only imagine the pressure of having to perform. His qualifying time was 3:01 vs 3:08 for the race win. Of course there were changing conditions but Kerr is absolutely the man to beat, hardline is his specialty. Wish we could have seen his run in 2022.
  • 11 2
 @DylanH93: We did see his run in 2022. It lasted about 40 seconds and then he crashed, same as Jackson this year.
You can't compare the quali run and race run, the track was shorter for qualis this year.

In my books, the man to beat is the current champion. Bernard has been beaten in the last two Hardline races, plus every World Cup he has ever entered.
  • 3 0
 @DylanH93: Seeding course was shorter. The finish for seeding was before the hip straight after the container road gap. They did not do the three hips or last creek gap in seeding. This is why seeding times were faster
  • 34 17
 All pretty weak points as usual, but I must say the ladies f*cking killed it.

I’m usually rolling my eyes at the borderline mandatory uplifting comments towards the female riders at races etc, but it was clear some real milestones were happening here that will change the progression of women’s mtb forever.

Exciting stuff.

I really hope RB keeps expanding the series.

Awesome to have a better prize purse too.
  • 10 0
 @PauRexs: wrong lol, they're top level athletes. You are joey on keyboard
  • 4 19
flag chrismac70 FL (Feb 28, 2024 at 5:05) (Below Threshold)
 Why? It’s not a race. It’s a overhyped marketing stunt that most of the worlds best aren’t interested or not invited to
  • 4 1
 @chrismac70: so you received the invite list and can provide that insight? Whom exactly are you that you have access to the invite list?
  • 4 2
 @tiffe: Without having the actual list, it is plain to see that plenty of not-the-worlds-best-but-sponsored-by-RB who'd never make it through WC qualies get an invite to this event.
  • 3 3
 @mi-bike: so you are complaining that an event created to generate revenue for a firm only invited those that increase the revenue potential. Not really understanding your point. All sports revolve around money. The best athletes are not all present anywhere, it takes capital to gain access and some of the actual best athletes do not have that capital.
  • 6 1
 @chrismac70: and maybe that's all it needs to be a) to get the industry growing again, b) to save riders from the pathetic salaries they are making and c) give them a chance to be something 'more' i.e. an actual athletic 'star' that is recognized.

Why do we need it to be compared to downhill racing, it's its own series of events and having riders of different stature and skills make it unique, particularly the way the women are involved too. In fact i'd argue this is a defining event, not just that Gracey and Louisa completed the course but the way the whole event addressed equality, perhaps inadvertently, has significantly changed the landscape for any sport. We've just legitimized a mixed sex event, and no rider seemed p*ssd off either. There is so much more to this event than what we seem to be focusing on here.

Once we 'keyboard warriors' bash it to death and Redbull starts to read the crap comments on here, they'll do one of two things bugger off and everyone has lost out or turn it into a race with dumbed down courses and it'll be another UCI event which apparently pinkbike readers don't want!
  • 4 0
 @tiffe: Not complaining. Just pointing out that while many people seem to suggest that this is much better than a WC race, hardline is invitation-only and that is a key difference.
  • 5 0
 @chrismac70: bro…it’s pretty clear that at least most of the worlds best would be included if they want to be. Who are you thinking of specifically?

And yes, some aren’t interested because they perceive the risks to not be worth the reward (Loic comes to mind). I personally respect that decision, but also feel it’s a bit lame and against the ethos of the dh / fr bike scene. Just my opinion though, and I hold nothing against the guy.

That said, it makes those that do choose to attend shine even brighter in my eyes.

It’s like when the likes of Gee Atherton would compete in rampage. What a f*cking savage that a guy with a racing pedigree has enough grit to come send it at what’s largely considered to be the pinnacle of free ride.

Hardline Tasmania offered a slightly different opportunity in that it was more akin to a race track the WC crowd is “used to” versus the welsh track that seemed to be less of a race and more like a rampage/“just happy to survive” kind of track, that also happens to be a race. It was so cool to hear people like Tommy G express how inspiring it was to see racers in their element and for him to improve his riding by osmosis.

I love the blended disciplines. And I don’t want this to replace WCDH, I just want a second series to watch and maybe even attend some day.

If the two events compete a little bit with each other, sounds good to me…it will make BOTH series better!!!!
  • 1 0
 Did the other person's comment get deleted?
  • 2 3
 @tiffe: The evidence is right infront of you. Most of the elite DH riders weren’t there. That means either they weren’t invited or chose to decline the invitation. What other explanation would you propose
  • 2 3
 @nvranka: most of the elite weren’t there
None of the top 3 from last season were there. For starters the following weren’t there

Bruni
Verbier
Kolb
Coulanges
Illes
Hart
Hatton
Minnar
Pierron x2
  • 5 0
 @chrismac70: I think Verbier decided to stay in Switzerland.
  • 1 0
 @teedubya: Grammer classes he didn't want to miss
  • 1 0
 @flaflow: geography* classes? Anyway, minnar and illes also wrong speling.
  • 1 0
 @chrismac70: yes but who are you thinking wouldn’t be included if they wanted to be?
  • 4 0
 @chrismac70: huh? Did you happen to miss the Goldstone crash and last I checked he was #2 finisher in 2023 and Bruni declined as the #1 (his choice, not Redbull). And do you have personal knowledge of Vergier not being invited?
Do you just make up stuff to suit your narrative?
  • 1 3
 @tiffe:

The Event is hyped up as the best DH riders in the world racing the scary course in the world. I’m simply pointing out that it isn’t factually true. Whether most of the best weren’t there becuase they weren’t invited or were and declined doesn’t matter. The fact is they weren’t so the basic premis of the event is false.
  • 3 0
 @chrismac70: it's a risk vs reward type of choice...Someone like Bruni probably has a contract that focuses on the UCI races. So, even though the one day payout vs a UCI round is better, Loic is making a choice based on what is going to be what's best for him..
  • 2 1
 @chrismac70: pulled from the Red Bull site.

Red Bull Hardline
Red Bull Hardline, the world’s toughest mountain bike race, adds a new event in Tasmania, Australia, on February 24th, as well as reaching its 10-year milestone in the Dyfi Valley, Wales, on June 1 and 2.

The gruelling track brings together the world's best and bravest riders, putting them through their paces in a challenging succession of mammoth jumps, boulder drops, technical puzzles and unrelenting weather. Hard by name, hard by nature.
And for the first time ever, Red Bull Hardline will also be taking place in Australia, at Maydena Bike Park, Tasmania, on February 23-24, 2024.
Red Bull Hardline 2024 will continue to promote equality of opportunity in downhill MTB.
Back in July 2023, one of downhill mountain biking’s most exciting talent Tahnee Seagrave led efforts to empower women on the Red Bull Hardline course. “Red Bull Hardline is the most difficult mountain bike race in the world,” she explains.
“We’ve seen so much progress by enabling female athletes to ride. We are approaching it in the right way, working towards supporting the progression at an attainable speed so that more girls can eventually get to tackle the course.”
You can stream all the action live via Red Bull TV and the Red Bull Bike YouTube channel. Look out for rider announcements right here.

Where does it state that it is the solely a DH event or that it is inclusive of all of the best riders? Personally, I consider that the field included a multitude of the best riders in the world.

Are your knickers in a knot just because you did not receive an invite?
  • 3 0
 @chrismac70: Warner said that Specialized didn't allow Bruni or Finn to attend.
  • 11 1
 Plus don’t forget to always lock your bike up .
  • 10 0
 Kerr is wild, that's a mental track record for Hardline
  • 12 2
 6. Speed traps at Hardline are as meaningless as they are on WC tracks.
  • 8 0
 This and Whistler Crankworx 1099 have been some of the best racing in the past few years.
  • 6 0
 Imagine doing Hardline as your first DH race (as an adult). That'd be terrifying as hell! Well done Matt!
(The OUCH! he uttered after crossing the finish line had me laughing though Big Grin )
  • 9 1
 I don't think Jackson won in 2024... he was unfortunately injured, no?
  • 7 1
 Whoops, fixed - thank you!
  • 4 2
 @sarahmoore: he won in 22, there were no winners in 23.
  • 4 0
 foreshadowing?
  • 7 0
 I would prefer a delayed to poor quality. I never watch live and just avoid the spoilers until I watch the races.
  • 11 3
 6 FK the uci
  • 2 1
 Fk yeah brother !!
  • 7 0
 Not sure RB appreciates Gracey's win being called Monsterous.
  • 3 0
 #1 is the reality for most riders. I have been riding bikes since I was a BMX kid in the 70s, and mtn biking since the late 80s/early 90s. The worst crashes I've had were directly tied to being complacent on "the easy stuff", not losing it on big hits and serious tech/gnar.
  • 1 0
 100%
  • 2 0
 The results weren’t kept under wraps. There was an Instagram account that was posting play by play stories as the racing happened but closer to the actual broadcast they were deleted. I saw the posts and was confused because the broadcast hadn’t started, then read about it being delayed
  • 5 0
 ...it wasn't live? i thought I was living in the moment but was really watching history
  • 1 2
 I was on the Maydena bike park page looking at the schedule and the race started at 1pm
Oz East coast time.

"Live" coverage on RB started at...5pm
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 While I have nothing against the race being broadcast delayed, I found it weird it wasn't mentioned at any point that it wasn't in fact live. Instead the broadcast started with the usual "welcome to watch Redbull Hardline, live from Tasmania" etc. I think some viewers deducted from the riders' social media feeds and such that the broadcast schedule can't really match with the race being shown in real time, but many didn't - at any point, since it really hasn't been mentioned anywhere officially. I'm just finding it weird why they couldn't openly say that the race will be at time x and broadcast y hours later. Would it really have made people try and dig up the results from somewhere (where?) before the show?
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 @donimo: the commentary was done live at the event. The broadcast was basically a replay.
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 @Tambo: I know, but surely they knew at the time of recording the race/ commentary as well. Of course it's super easy to do the usual "welcome to watch live" speech automatically without thinking about it, and that really isn't the main issue here. My point being nothing in the marketing beforehand or even during the broadcast suggested to the viewers it wasn't actually shown live, but quite the opposite. Surely there was no need to try and hide the fact the broadcast was delayed, why not be open about it and cut the confusion.
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 Why is anyone bothered about this? Seems like a non issue to me.
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 @commental: but not knowing means I was denied the opportunity to moan about it not being live. Now all I have is the poor substitute of moaning about not knowing it wasn’t live
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 6. You can still safely ride a downhill course with exposed elbows
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 Interesting to hear from Boggs and Jones. It´s the same when you try to ride the complete DH-Track in your park. It´s absolutely exhausting!
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 6. There may only be 2 races in the series, but it is better than the UCI DH World Cup series.
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 If it wasn't live on RB, how come the replay wasn't available straight away? Missed the first hour, had to wait until it was all over before I could watch the whole thing.
Anyway, Tahnee on the commentry with Warner and Eliot was brilliant.
Brilliant epic racing. Ronan simply pulled it out of the bag (would Jackson have bested him??)
Shame about Brayton pushing too hard. He had the pace, could he have got onto the podium?? Next time Grandad....
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 The fact that Ronan missed practices and also raced a bike he wasn't training on and still won is nuts. Kid's a mad man!!
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 Women still without a dedicated category and prizemoney ... sorry, are we still in the 90s??? FFS Redbull, the women are hitting 95% of the same features as the guys, but you can't find some money to reward their skills like the men??? Get your shit together.
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 the women decided they wanted to race in one class with the men.
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 @juanargent: Pesky facts getting in the way again.
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 Jackson Goldstone 2024 huh?
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 Just add a new hardline every year and in three or four years time youll have a race series that will kill off the UCI series.
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 Love Hardline and I hope we'll see a few more of them per year. However, it's really ironic how the pinkbike comment section always complains that world cups are getting too elitist and the privateers are pushed away, but then an event with no qualifying system other than a big sugary drink company inviting select riders is looked at as an amazing alternative...
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 @finnspin: yeah if you really read the comments there are some very common but wrong ideas and double standards. The more racing/ comps the better, as long as they're run well. Which can be done without Rob Warner
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 @finnspin: Racing's dead anyways, freeride is back with a vengeance after all that shit talking from the industry for the last 7 years. UCI is a bunch of clowns, I hate redbull as a cancer causing poison product but I appreciate what they are doing with hardline and rampage. I can actually watch racing if it looks like hardline
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 If they wanted to do that they'd need to build a feeder infrastructure for privateers and youth racers, setting up separate qualifier events instead of doing an invite only event. Kind of eliminates the essence of what started Hardline Wales. Not saying giving the UCI competition is a bad thing, we all would love more racing, but setting up that kind of infrastructure is costly and time consuming.
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flag MattQEkBp1 (Feb 28, 2024 at 14:49) (Below Threshold)
 Hardline is super boring though, this track was just a sanitized wales track. The uci wc series is nice and varied
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 Fort William, Fort William
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 According to an interview tahnne gave the appearance money is paid but you have to fund your own travel and accommodation from it so not much actually left unless your sponsors pick those costs up
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 What's your point? Do you think Discovery pay travel expenses and provide accommodation?
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 6. This even felt more like a Worldcup than an actual Worldcup.
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 The only thing it missed for me, was the visibly different line choices. We got a couple of gaps that only some riders did and a couple of high lines, but nowhere near as much as a good WC track. That's my favourite part. I like watching the 'first hits' videos for Hardline, but by the race, the big features are a bit of an anti-climax and don't usually decide the race.
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 I learnt nothing, just was happy to watch full replay with quality commentary. Good ol days.
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 What is an appearance fee?
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 Those prize totals for world cups are actually insane.
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 We learned that 2 chains didn't make BK twice as fast
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 we also learned that zero chains didn't make Remy stand still ;-)
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 7.500 hours to build? thats 540 days working 14 hours a day!

I think its 750 hours... @pinkbike
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 Did one person built the whole track? I think the term "man-hours" (or is it "person-hours" now?) would have been more accurate.
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 edit: barp beat me to it.
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 I'm going to guess there were multiple people working on it and that's their combined timed! 7,500 hours is cited from the Red Bull website.
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 15+ staff were involved in the build for nearly 4 months. The maths is pretty straight forward- total person hours on the project were over 7,500!
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 @maydenabikepark: love your work
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