6 New Enduro-Ready Full Face Helmets Ridden & Rated

Feb 19, 2019
by Mike Kazimer  



The concept of a lightweight full face helmet isn't exactly new – remember the original Giro Switchblade? That helmet debuted back in 1998, but thankfully helmet technology has progressed since then, and the modern equivalents of that freeride relic provide much better protection against high- and low-speed impacts.

Enduro racing deserves a good chunk of the credit for the recent influx of more trail-oriented full face helmets. Carrying two helmets, one for the climbs and one for the descents, is about as silly as it gets, but for a time that was a fairly common sight at races where wearing a helmet at all times is mandatory. That's no longer the case, and there are now numerous options that are well suited for enduro racing or rowdy trail riding. These helmets typically use a lighter weight construction than their DH-oriented counterparts, with ventilation and breathability taking a higher priority over the ability to survive multiple Rampage-sized impacts.


MIPS headquarters


Helmet Standards

All of the helmets profiled here are certified to the ASTM F1952 DH standard. In order to achieve that certification, helmets must withstand a higher impact level than what's necessary to achieve CPSC or EN-1078 certification, due to the fact the downhill riding typically involves higher speeds, and thus, bigger crashes.

For instance, in order to achieve ASTM F1952 certification a helmet can't transmit more than 300 G's to the headform when dropped onto a curbstone shaped anvil from a height of 1.6 meters. In comparison, that drop is 1.2 meters high for the CPSC standard, and 1.1 meters high for EN-1078. It's worth noting that a chin bar isn't required for a helmet to be DH-certified, but that if a chin bar is present it needs to pass an impact test as well.

Another similarity between these six helmets is that they are all designed to reduce the amount of rotational energy that reaches the brain during an impact, whether that's via a MIPS liner or Leatt's 360 Turbine technology. Unfortunately, there's currently no standard in place that tests the efficacy of these features, but talks are ongoing among various manufacturers and organizations in order to implement a standard test procedure.

It's worth noting that the purpose of this review is to evaluate the helmets based on their fit and design, not their impact resistance. There weren't any lab coats or complicated test rigs used for this article; instead, it was multiple rides out in the real world that delivered the necessary data.




Enduro full face ridden and rated

Bell Super DH


The Super DH is Bell's flagship convertible full face, a DH certified helmet that has a laundry list of impressive features. It's the MIPS Spherical technology that's especially noteworthy. The helmet is constructed with two separate layers of foam, with a harder foam located under the shell, and a softer foam that sits closer to a rider's head.

That inner layer of foam, which has a MIPS slip plane on top of it, 'floats' on elastomers, which allows the two layers of the helmet to move independently. The idea is that during a crash the outer layer is able to rotate enough to help dissipate a portion of the impact force, reducing the amount of stress that reaches the brain.



Details
• Shell material: polycarbonate
• Rotational impact protection: MIPS Spherical
• Buckle type: Fidlock magnetic
• Additional features: removable chinbar, breakaway camera mount
• Seven color choices
• Sizes: S, M, L
• Weight: 887 grams (size M)
• MSRP: $300 USD
www.bellhelmets.com/super-dh-mips

The Super DH is one of the few helmets here with a dial adjust retention system, a feature that I'm a fan of due to the ability to really fine tune the fit, rather than relying on foam pads. Other features include an adjustable visor, a breakaway camera mount, and Bell's Sweat Guide padding, which is designed to help keep sweat from dripping straight into your eyes.

Switching the helmet from full face to half shell mode only takes a few seconds (there's a latch on each side and one on the back that flips open to release the chin bar), although re-installing the chin bar properly without taking the helmet off does take a little practice. There's also no easy way to transport the chin bar if you're not wearing a pack – it's an awkwardly shaped item, and much larger than the chin bar on the Giro Switchblade. The front of the chin bar also isn't as open as some of the other helmets tested here, which means it's not really possible to spit through it. A tiny detail, I know, but one that can make a difference in the middle of a grueling race run.

That being said, the Super DH really is two helmets in one – I've taken laps in the bike park with it in full face mode in the morning, and then removed the chin bar to go on a more pedally ride in the afternoon, all without feeling like I was compromising on safety or ventilation. The Super DH is a great choice if you're traveling on a mountain bike vacation and don't want to lug two separate helmets around.


Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated



Pros

+ It truly is two very usable helmets in one
+ MIPS Spherical
+ Excellent retention system
Cons

- Chin bar is bulky when not in use
- Can't spit through chin bar




Enduro full face ridden and rated

Leatt DBX 4.0

The DBX 4.0 is Leatt's DH-certified lightweight full face, a model that falls in between their dedicated downhill helmets and the convertible DBX 3.0 helmet. While the other helmets in this roundup use some version of a MIPS liner, the DBX 4.0 uses Leatt's own 360-degree Turbine technology, which consists of 10 'turbines' constructed from an energy absorbing material. Those turbines are strategically placed on the inside of the helmet, where the rest directly against, or close to, a rider's head. In the event of an impact, that material is designed to help reduce the forces that reach the brain.

Along with the Turbine technology, the DBX uses two different densities of foam to further help with impact absorption.



Details
• Shell Material: polycarbonate
• Rotational impact protection: 360° Turbine Technology
• Buckle type: Fidlock magnetic closure
• Additional features: removable mouth vent, breakaway visor, quick release cheek pads
• Colors: steel, ruby, ink
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL
• Weight: 852 grams (size M)
• MSRP: $230 USD
www.leatt.com

Like the Fox Proframe, the DBX 4.0 has a non-adjustable, breakaway visor. It was slightly in my field of view while climbing, but I didn't notice it while descending with goggles one. Still, I do wish it could move upwards at least a few degrees.

The DBX is on the roomier side of the spectrum for a medium, although that may be due to my more oval shaped dome – it seemed like the excess room was mainly near the top of my head on each side. The cheek padding is thick and comfortable, and overall the DBX has a fit and feel that's closer to a traditional DH helmet.

There's not quite the same level of ventilation as what the Stage and Proframe provide, but the DBX does reasonably well with heat management. The removable screen on the front of the chin bar is a nice touch, and helps increase the amount of breathability for climbing or sprinting.



Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated



Pros

+ Comfortable padding
+ Overall feel is closer to a DH helmet
+ Removable chin vent
Cons

- No adjustable visor
- Slightly roomier fit than other size medium helmets in this test





Enduro full face ridden and rated

Giro Switchblade

The Giro Switchblade debuted all the way back in 1998, but the current iteration is a far cry from the original. It still has a removable chinbar, but not only is this model much better looking, it's also DH certified in both the full face and half shell configuration.

The chin bar is removed by pushing two buttons on the underside, and then rotating the bar upwards. The resulting helmet is more of a ¾ coverage helmet rather than a true half shell – it reminds me of something a spaceman in a 1950's comic book would wear, a look that I can appreciate. It may have 20 vents, but it's still quite warm with the chin bar removed due to that extra coverage over the ears. It's become the helmet I'll grab for chilly fall and winter trail rides, but in the middle of summer I'd rather have a 'regular' half shell.



Details
• Shell material: polycarbonate
• Rotational impact protection: MIPS
• Buckle type: double D-rings
• Additional features: removable chinbar, spare visor with camera mount
• 9 color options
• Sizes: S, M, L
• Weight: 986 grams (medium)
• MSRP: $250 USD
www.giro.com/switchblade/

The chin bar itself is much more compact than the one on the Super DH, which makes it easier to stash during a long uphill grind. I did find that the retention dial had a tendency to dig into the back of my head if I tried to put the helmet on without loosening it up first, but once the helmet is actually on it's very comfortable and secure. It's not the lightest helmet, but it has a reassuring heft to it – it feels like it could take a solid hit without disintegrating, and feels closer to a standard DH helmet.


Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated



Pros

+ Compact removable chin bar
+ Adjustable visor
+ DH certified in both full face and half shell mode
Cons

- Not the lightest option
- Still very warm in half shell mode
- The look of the half shell won't be for everyone





Enduro full face ridden and rated

Troy Lee Designs Stage

Troy Lee took their time before entering the lightweight full face helmet, but when they released the Stage it snagged the title of the “lightest DH-certified full face helmet in existence.” At only 685 grams, it's half the weight of a typical downhill helmet. There are 25 vents to keep the air flowing, an adjustable visor, and different thicknesses of foam padding to adjust the fit. The helmet is constructed with both EPS and EPP foams in order to help it both high- and low-speed impacts, and there's also a MIPS liner in place in order to help reduce the amount of rotational impact force that reaches a rider's head.



Details
• Shell material: Polylite with fiber reinforcement
• Rotational impact protection: MIPS
• Buckle type: Fidlock magnetic
• Additional features: adjustable visor
• Five color choices
• Sizes: XS/S, M/L, L/XL
• Weight: 711 grams (medium)
• MSRP: $295 USD
www.troyleedesigns.com/stage-helmet/

The Stage's light weight is immediately noticeable on the trail – I'm not really a fan of climbing with a full face on, but the Stage makes it as bearable as possible. The chin bar has plenty of ventilation for heavy breathing, and the cutouts above the ear make it possible to hear what the rider next to you is saying. Those same cutouts do create more wind noise on the descents, but whether or not that's an issue will depend on rider preference.

Paul Aston encountered some discomfort with the chin strap positioning when he reviewed the Stage, but I didn't experience that issue – head and ear shapes vary, so as always it's best to try before you buy.

The Stage would be an excellent pick for an enduro race helmet thanks to all that ventilation, but it wouldn't be my first choice for taking lap after lap in the bike park. It's best to think of it as a trail helmet with extra protection rather than a light DH helmet. After all, Troy Lee already makes the D3 Carbon for riders looking for a light, World Cup DH ready full face.



Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated


Pros

+ Light weight
+ Very well ventilated
+ It barely feels like you're wearing a full face
Cons

- More wind noise than other helmets in this category
- Chin straps may not be comfortable for all riders






Enduro full face ridden and rated

Fox Proframe

The Fox Proframe weighs only 40 grams more than the TLD Stage, and out on the trail both helmets deliver a level of airiness that's as close as you can get to a half shell without actually wearing one. The Proframe is constructed with Fox's Varizorb foam, which uses different densities of cone-shaped EPS to provide protection from impacts.

There's also a MIPS liner, and a visor that's designed to break away if things take a turn for the worse. The visor is fixed in place in order to ensure that it directs air into the vents helmet's vents, but once again, it'd be nice to have at least some range of motion in order to get it into that 'just right' position, or to make room for goggle straps. I usually wear my goggles backward when climbing, and with the Proframe there wasn't that much room for the strap to sit underneath the visor.



Details
• Shell material: polycarbonate
• Rotational impact protection: MIPS
• Buckle type: Fidlock magnetic
• Additional features: breakaway visor, dual density EPS liner
• 7 color options
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL
• Weight: 756 grams
• MSRP: $250 USD
www.foxracing.com

The Proframe's chinbar is the most open of all the helmets here, which helps with airflow, especially when you're seeing red and want to suck in as much air as possible. However, that design does mean that rocks or other pointy things have a better chance of making it through to a rider's face during a crash. It'd take an unlucky set of circumstances for that to happen, but it is possible.

The overall fit of the Proframe was comfortable, except for a slight pressure point at my forehead – the padding in that area isn't super thick, and it has a tendency to slide upwards and out of place.


Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated



Pros

+ Excellent ventilation
+ Light weight
Cons

- Visor isn't adjustable
- Thin forehead padding





Enduro full face ridden and rated

Fly Racing WERX Imprint

As one of the lightest downhill-oriented full face options available, the Fly Werx Imprint was included in this roundup to see how it would stack up against the more enduro-oriented options.

It has a snug, incredibly comfortable fit, thanks to a generous amount of padding, and it stayed securely in place with or without goggles. It doesn't have the same level of ventilation as the other helmets tested here, but it doesn't feel like a portable sauna either, and it felt most similar to the Giro Switchblade in this category. The angle of the chin strap did cause it to sit against my Adam's apple more than I would have liked, but that may not be the case with everyone.



Details
• Shell material: carbon / Kevlar
• Rotational impact protection: MIPS
• Buckle type: double D-rings
• Additional features: quick release cheek pads, 18 intake and 6 exhaust vents
• 5 color choices
• Sizes: XS, S, M, L, XL
• Weight: 980 grams
• MSRP: $449.95 USD
www.flyracing.com

The Werx is best suited to the downhill racer who may also try out an enduro race or two. The light weight and high level of comfort mean that you won't mind having it on your head all day, but the reduced ventilation and breathability do hinder it slightly on the climbs. There's also the price to consider, which is quite steep due to the carbon / Kevlar shell construction. Overall, this is a very well constructed, high-end helmet that's an excellent option for the gravity-oriented rider, but isn't the best pick for an everyday lid, unless your daily ride includes a chairlift or shuttle truck.


Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated

Enduro full face ridden and rated



Pros

+ Very comfortable, well padded
+ High end construction
Cons

- Not as breathable or ventilated as more enduro-specific options
- Pricey






Top Picks

All of the helmets featured here are worthy options if you're in the market for a lightweight full face, but choosing the best one will depend on what type of riding you're planning on using it for.


Racing

The TLD Stage would be the helmet I'd grab if I was heading out for an enduro race, especially if it was going to be a long, multi-day event. It's light, very comfortable, and well ventilated. It also has an adjustable visor, which is part of the reason it snagged the top spot over the Fox Proframe, which would be my second pick. The Proframe didn't fit me quite as well as the Stage, but it offers a similar amount of ventilation, and it's only a smidge heavier. Both would be excellent options for the racer who doesn't want to be encumbered by a bulky, heavy helmet, or even for the trail rider looking for extra protection without incurring a massive sweat penalty. The ability to spit through the mouth piece may seem like an odd detail, but in the middle of a race run it can come in very handy. The Stage, Proframe, and DBX 4.0 rank the highest on the spittability index.


All-Purpose

The Super DH takes this category due to the fact that it's very usable in both the full face and half shell configurations. It's nice being able to travel with only one helmet and be able to adapt it to the day's ride plan. The chin bar is bulky when it's not in use, but once it's in place the Super DH has a very solid feel – I spent numerous hot summer days wearing it in the Whistler Bike Park and never felt underdressed for the occasion.

The Leatt DBX 4.0 also falls into this all-purpose category – it feels closer to a DH lid than the Stage or the Proframe, and I wouldn't have any qualms using it as a bike park helmet or for rowdy shuttle laps. I do wish the visor was adjustable, though, and the fit of the Super DH (along with the retention dial) worked much better for my head shape.

Honorable mention goes to the Fly Racing Werx. It was slightly out of its element in the breathability department, but there was no shortage of comfort, and for the DH racer who's thinking of dabbling in enduro it fits the bill.


What About the Switchblade?


The Switchblade was designed as an enduro helmet, but I'd call it more of a freeride lid, in both configurations. It's the heaviest helmet here, and one of the warmest as well, but I often found myself wearing it in the half shell mode for chillier rides in the fall and winter. That look might not jive with your style sense, but I like pretending I'm an old-school spaceman. The extra coverage over the ears also provides an additional sense of security compared to a traditional half shell.

The Switchblade's chin bar is much more compact than the Super DH's, and it's easy enough to carry it on the waist strap of a hip pack. It's certainly usable as a race helmet, just be aware that there are better options when it comes to breathability and ventilation.









Title image: Boris Beyer


210 Comments

  • + 159
 What spaceman has an open face helmet? I mean, that will just never work, because, well.... It's space.... You kinda need a front bit to keep the space out and the air in. So there you have my review. If you are planning on going to space don't use any of these helmets.
  • + 47
 Thanks, you just saved me from looking a proper fool on my next trip there!
  • + 78
 @bigtim, Buck Rogers did.

goo.gl/images/4sBAVp
  • - 65
flag WAKIdesigns (Feb 19, 2019 at 1:10) (Below Threshold)
 @bigtim you are being ridiculous, he meant comic book and they are not based on reality.
  • + 39
 instructions unclear, died in space
  • + 42
 @WAKIdesigns: your comment is ridiculous and based on reality.
  • + 3
 At least, in space, no-one can hear you scream. Meanwhile, on Friday....no such problem!
  • - 17
flag WAKIdesigns (Feb 19, 2019 at 2:53) (Below Threshold)
 @j7mb: in space no one can get my sarcasm.
  • + 30
 @WAKIdesigns: You are the ultimate spaceman......you love Uranus.
  • + 5
 @mikekazimer: And also fabulous dungaree short shorts. I think with hindsight he dressed for the Blue Oyster bar, not space. (Although, his helmet fin is very 1996 stick on fin style that was all the rage)
  • + 40
 @watchmen: I think Pinkbike should do a feature on Wakidesigns. Full on video interview and profile. A documentary perhaps. Who is the man behind the trolling? What is he really like? How does he find the time to write so many comments? Are there more than one of him? Does he even ride (bro)?

I for one am genuinely fascinated.

*note: I realise some of the above information might be found in social-media-land, but I don’t do that. A proper Luddite I is.
  • + 2
 @trialsking95: I just realized that Luke's helmet has the Princess Leia cinnamon buns built into the design!
  • + 4
 @aps62: I would definitely like this...

"People need dramatic examples to shake them out of apathy and I can't do that as Bruce Wayne, as a man I'm flesh and blood I can be ignored I can be destroyed but as a symbol, as a symbol I can be incorruptible, I can be everlasting."

Is @WAKIdesigns a mortal man, or a philosophy....
  • + 0
 @Rance: in space Waki can’t write comments...
  • + 1
 @bretttippie: Ha! sweet. never seen that one before!
  • + 1
 @aps62: you got my vote!
  • + 1
 Unless you only wear it inside your Spaceship!!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud60i0o-mdc
  • + 64
 I had a really ugly accident in 2017 in Leogang. Did shit load of research about safety and what I can do to make myself more secure. Back in a day I didn't care so much, but 1 child and now 2nd changes your perception. I hope that somebody will find it useful. This is how you can protect your head and the rest of your body. In order of importance:

1. Practice practice practice. Don't do 5m drops if you aren't 99,999% you will make it. Progression should be slow. I am riding mountain bikes for 25 years now and I just wasn't prepared enough for this place and this drop. All the research supports me here. Helmet is important. But what saves MOST lives is skill, not gear. I stopped being a lazy weekend warrior and bought myself Inspired Fourplay. I practice almost every day. Amazing new adventure Smile .

2. Practice your overall mobility and stretch. Don't be a bag of meat when you fall. Do gymnastics.

3. Fu&^ck all the MIPS and other shmips. The science behind it is sloppy and what is there says almost nothing. What IS important is the fit. If the helmet is really nicely tight in every place, and touches your head everywhere it will be 20x better that the supposedly best helmet out there with all those fancy systems.

4. Neck brace. Wear it or not. Science here is also not supporting it. I don't wear it because I want to be in charge of my head position when I fall. Not a passenger of my own accident. And remember that if you hit anything with the top of your head and compress the neck, the neck brace is useless.


I am riding Giro Switchblade for trail (please don't laugh here Frown ) and enduro riding in Austrian Alps. By enduro I mean climbing 2 hours and than charging down with the chin bar, on trails like Hacklberg trail or X-Line. This helmet is nice but this is definitely some compromise when it comes to comfort. But I got used to it. I am riding this thing even in 30°C for 5 hours. Your brain will not boil. I promise.

For strictly park days I have something special. And that is Bell Full 9. This is a helmet without any fancy systems. But the fit is just crazy. It's light and fits so well that I honestly don't feel I have something on my head. Amazing helmet.

Stay safe.
  • + 10
 Sorry, but this is bad advice. You're 100% right that the science behind concussion-reduction technology is marginal. But you're wrong that lack of good data means you should just buy an old-design helmet that makes *no effort whatsoever* to prevent concussions. Decide as best you can which tech is the most promising and go with that. But "f* it, there's no data" is dumb. I doubt there's actual science proving that mountain biking is safer with a helmet, period, but that doesn't mean we should DH in baseball caps.
  • + 4
 Good tips! The 2nd one is i my eyes a real life saver in a lot of situations: more flexibility means less injuries. Also, train to fall and roll, so it becomes automatic.
  • + 11
 your #4 reminds me of people's rationale for not wearing a seat belt, that they "want to be thrown free of car wreckage or easily be able to get out afterwards". I've accepted the reality of peripheral damage due to the neck brace knowing the alternative is probably going to be much worse. Most good crashes you don't get much time to adjust body position.

Good takes otherwise though.
  • + 12
 @Phillyenduro: There is no actual data that anti rotational technologies really help in any meaningful way. There is a marginal improvement if you use those technologies. Maybe the science advance and show that in fact there are use cases where those technologies shine.

What is known is that the helmet fit matters. A lot. And also how smooth it is. Any helmet that has any sort of hooks that could attach themselves to the ground are a big no no. Rotational forces will smash your brain in that case.

I don't want to tell anybody not to buy helmet with MIPS or equivalent. I just want to point out that there are other factors that matter more. But you cannot charge money for a better fit. You can charge money for MIPS and others. So this is what is stressed by all companies. Not fit but tech.

The best you can do is to buy a helmet with a great fit and with MIPS Smile .
  • + 3
 @twozerosix: Sorry but I mixed 2 things here. My thoughts about neck brace and science. Science says that it doesn't work. Statistics for people using neck brace aren't any better or worse. This is not a seat belt situation. Seat belt saves your live in 99% of cases and lets say in 1% of cases it makes the accident worse. Neck brace changes nothing. This is at least what numbers say. So I prefer not to use it. But yes. This is just my personal preference. Using it will not make (statistically speaking) your accident any worse.
  • + 3
 @goroncy: I don't have much faith that MIPS provides any real-world benefit. I do believe in Leatt's turbines, Kali's composite fusion, and MIPS Spherical, and in dual-density foam.

I agree with you that fit matters, I just disagree that none of the concussion-tech innovations of the past 5 years do anything, just because there's no data to prove it. There's no data to prove that smoothness reduces concussions either, but you're absolutely right that riders should take it seriously anyway.

If there's no data proving that EPS is safer than the leather hairnets of old, would you keep buying leather?
  • + 4
 @twozerosix: I checked if there is anything new about neck braces. Last time I did my research it was in 2017. I found this: docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/8696ef_e368603256a842af99cf2270914596b4.pdf

It looks much more like a bunch of statistics not a study, but maybe it shows something new. Seems like neck braces might work after all. I'm posting this only to show what I found. I unfortunately didn't have time to check what is the quality of this source.
  • + 4
 @Phillyenduro: When I was in search for a new full face helmet I met Kali's owner Brad. Very nice and extremely competent guy. He heard about my accident and brought especially for me from US a helmet. We've met on Eurobike. Unfortunately my huge head was too big Frown Frown Frown .
  • + 5
 @goroncy: I'm super impressed with what Kali's doing with helmet design these days.
  • + 3
 @goroncy: after a quick perusal, I think that might have sample size issues but it is interesting nothing how much of an improvement they found. Would love more science on this. I wear a brace because I've never seen data that says they are harmful, and mine is comfortable enough I forget it's there.

I always wonder about the practicing to roll advice. While I don't think it could hurt, it seems that it applies in very few tires of crashes. The only ones I can think of are ejections out the front at reasonable speed and bails from large jumps. In both of these the natural reaction is going to be to roll out anyway. Anything else, slow speed OTB, washouts, high sides, and most bad landings on jumps, I'm just going where the crash takes me. I can try and stay relaxed, but I don't even really seem to have control over whether I put my arms out. So flexibility seems more important. Do people actually practice rolling from various awkward starting positions (like standing on a 3 foot platform that randomly slowly ejects you, or sideways on a platform that sides and comes to an about stop, or is it more like the practice falls and rolls in judo? Is there any data that training to roll helps?

As for everything else I basically agree.

Develop skills
Develop strength
Get the best fitting helmet you can. Spherical, light weight, smaller, anti rotation in that order.
Wear as much armor as is comfortable
Learn to roll
  • + 4
 Still rocking a Specialized Deviant which was made and discontinued before anyone else came to the party. Its still alive thanks to my tuck and roll skillz. Controlled crashing is an art.
  • + 3
 @pcmxa: When I broke my C5/6/7 it was rolling out of a forward OTB. Tucked my head and everything but the speed and impact was still too much. That's after 6 years of aikido and 4 years of wrestling too.
  • + 2
 I may add: Train your neck...all boxxers etc. do it.
Neck curls/ bridges and so on... Takes 5 mins a day and makes a difference.
  • + 2
 @goroncy: thanks for finding that doc, very interesting.
  • + 2
 @Boardlife69: It was once the lightest and the best ventilated FF helmet, not to mention Snell95 certificate... Kickass helmet!
  • + 2
 @goroncy: Kali's is the way to go, softer/self healing foam, vicoelastic pads.

I'd like MIPS to do their tests in real world conditions: not so tightly strapped helmet on a dummy head with hair and a layer with a bit of give (scalp) on top of the head's hard material.
But until that happens I'll call it bs, cause they test helmets tightly strapped to a rubberized head.
helmets.org/mips.htm
  • + 4
 @twozerosix: That's what I wonder about. How much is still luck? I've had crashes where the bike just stopped (hit a stump doing 18-20mph, caught a handlebar against a tree) and I'm ejected out the front door. A couple of tumbles later I'm standing trackside, no scratches or bruises. There was no reaction on my part, really (though maybe all those years skating and riding bmx bikes in the woods helped). Then, going down a steep (-45%) grade or so at 3-5mph front wheel found a hole and went over the bars super slow and basically body slammed a boulder. That was broken ribs and a shattered finger. Not sure if I could have kept my arms from extending on that one or tried to roll out of it, but I doubt it.

Watching races it seems almost entirely the type of crash that causes injury, rather than if someone has practiced rolling.

Of course there is no downside to learning to roll out of impacts, so learn it. I'm just not convinced it is all that effective.
  • + 2
 @Boardlife69: your helmet may be old, but it is beautiful. Is it still shiny or had father time worn off the gloss?
  • + 3
 @Phillyenduro: Yes, exactly. I live in BC, Canada where it's the law to wear a helmet while riding a bike. But idiots who don't want to mess their hair up by wearing a helmet keep bringing up a study done by the University of BC (UBC) that shows helmet laws make no difference to head injury hospitalization rates -

cyclingincities.spph.ubc.ca/injury-rates-vs-mode-share-helmet-laws

"See, I don't need a helmet while commuting!" They say...

Then I tell them... "Ok, come here, leave your helmet on, get down on your knees and bonk your head on the pavement... yep, not bad right. Ok harder! Good, still not too bad... Ok, now take your helmet off and do it again... oh what, you don't want to do that? It'll hurt too much? Hmmmm.... So now, if you're still confident in this "study", why do you make your kids where helmets?"

Sometimes studies & data paired with idiocy can be a very, very bad thing.
  • + 1
 @goroncy : I have to disagree on the neckbrace thing I can personally say some of the crashes I've had would have been so bad without a brace (landing on head kinked neck but brace stopped it from kinking further!) also Trey Canard was told he'd be dead without it from multiple doctors!

point number two while i do agree mips is new and without much back up systems like like leatt's turbines show dramatic reduction in impact! and they also slow rotation and anytime you can slow a crash no matter what direction being impact or rotation thats a good thing! I'd say leatt's turbines are better than mips because it slows impact aswell as rotation!
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 @BenPea: its still matt black, so it still kind of looks like new, from afar, with squinted eyes. Its really one of the best helmets I have ever owned. I dont know how these new ones compare, but spesh was -ahead- of the times with that helmet. Why did they discontinue it? Why wont they bring it back? WTF? Just like the Pitch, WTF?
Anyways, regarding crashing, tuck and roll is just one of many techniques. It may or may not help depending on the situation. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you dont, thats why crashing is an art. Or roulette.
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 @rockchomper: This is called "anecdotal evidence".
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 @islandforlife: I read about helmets in city environment. You mustn't compare it to trail riding, enduro, DH etc... In fact there is statistical data showing that car drivers are passing by bikers with helmets much closer than those without. And this causes serious accidents. Deadly. Don't be against data. Sometimes reality is really awkward and doesn't give a damn what is YOUR logic.
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 @goroncy: @islandforlife: some interesting words on that
youtu.be/07o-TASvIxY
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 @goroncy: I doubt that you have time to think about your head position when you go down. Unless you're crashing in slow motion.
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 @Boardlife69: joking aside (really sorry...), I particularly liked the deviant 2, especially as it's also a drum and bass classic.
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 @goroncy: That it may be but if it gives me confidence to hit a feature I might not otherwise hit im all in! Also I belive leatt shows some good evidence of neck braces acutally working!

The Turbines also have Huge amounts of data showing reduction!
  • + 1
 @goroncy: I've got to say, I disagree with your #4 point. I guess in your imagination that "being in control of your head" during a crash seems like a good idea and all, but in the worst accidents, there's no time to react; sometimes you can't even bring your hands up. Of course, being completely unconscious obviously means that you have no control by nature. I had a massive stack at the end of 2017 and I lost about an hour (or more, it's hard to say) of memory and suffered a ruptured kidney and liver. Thanks to my helmet and neckbrace, I didn't suffer a spinal injury (confirmed by two different hospitals and MRI machines), which I believe I would have if I hadn't had the neck brace because my neck remained stiff and sore for half a year afterwards. I'd also like to point out that if you land straight down on the top of your head (which seems like a pretty unusual and unlikely scenario) that you're kind of screwed no matter what so that really doesn't argue against wearing a neck brace.
  • + 1
 Now you've poked the hornet's nest with some of those points, I'd like to say I agree with number 3! The number of people I see commuting with badly fitting helmets is quite shocking. It's a bit more rare on the trails as people there are more serious about riding and tend to know their stuff. I spotted a kid (on the road) last week with a helmet on backwards! In many situations a badly fitting helmet is worse than not having one, so maybe this is something we really shouldn't be buying online unless we have tried different sizes first in a shop.
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 @goroncy: Also, while my story is obviously anecdotal evidence, it just doesn't make logical sense that a device which restricts the movement of your head couldn't help protect your spine from an impact to the head.
www.revzilla.com/common-tread/ask-the-doc-do-neck-braces-reduce-injuries
Apparently, there was a 2018 study of 8000 patients in motocross accidents which seems to be a pretty clear argument in favour of the neck brace if common sense and observation aren't enough for you.
  • + 2
 @goroncy: Helmet use for road riding is a complex and nuanced debate, where studies have shown that mandatory helmet laws dissuade people from riding, leaving those who do contend with traffic more vulnerable to careless/ bad driving and poorer driver awareness.
Thankfully the situation on the trails is a little clearer as trees and rocks aren't influenced by what protection you choose to wear, and the aim of the game is to prevent your face being ground away, your skull getting cracked, and to decelerate your brain in the gentlest possible manner.
  • - 1
 @goroncy: My point was... obviously, during a crash your head is safer when you're wearing a helmet. Yet there are people who, using their idiocy, will totally misinterpret and misunderstand data to justify something they want to do.

Data = good
People = dumb
  • - 2
 @ismasan: Again these studies are always so strange. What I'd like to see is a study done where people had an accident fell of their bike and hit their head on the pavement... with a helmet on and without a helmet... what were their injuries like.

I don't give a f*ck about the physiological perceptions and cultural implications of how people fall off or don't fall off their bikes and how that makes society feel.

This whole idea that promoting helmet use lowers bicycle use is just stupid. Of course it does... but you have to finish that thought because helmets ARE saving lives. So, we stop wearing helmets, some people are going to die because of it. Ah it's ok, look at how many more people are riding bikes!! He contradicts himself by telling us that we should be putting smoking-like disclaimers on cars because they're so dangerous but then tells us not to wear a helmet while riding a bike, which is also inherently dangerous and should probably carry the same warnings of we care about saving lives. So which is it? Do we care about people dying from head injuries or do we care about getting more people on bikes?

I'm sorry, I'm not willing to be one of the sacrificial lambs that dies because I wasn't wearing a helmet just so more people ride bikes. haha... such bullshit.

When I'm riding to work and some pedestrian steps off the sidewalk right in front of me while I'm doing 30km/h... and I fly off my bike and my head impacts the pavement... sure as shit an unprotected head is going to get much more f*cked over than a protected one. And it's as simple as that. Talk to any ER doc about this subject and you'll get the same answer. Wear a f*cking helmet stupid.
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 @islandforlife: I've grown in the 80s, and took diggers all my childhood without a helmet. Now I never ride mtb without one of course, but never used it for commuting until I had to do it in London.

The guy is talking mainly about Denmark and the Netherlands, which is phead and shoulders above when it comes to city biking, but still it has interesting points, and I have seen/experienced some of them. Posted it just as food for thoughts, not that I suggest stop wearing helmets. Smile
  • + 1
 After an OTB last spring that left me with a chunk of meat missing in the bridge of my nose and a dozen plus stitches in my upper lip to nostril, I decided to get a Fox Proframe and wear it for all my riding, plenty of which is trail in the summer heat. Turns out, it's fine.

At 40 years old, my line of reasoning was:

1) If I'm wearing any helmet, I'm acknowledging there is a chance of trauma to the head.
2) If I'm acknowledging there is a risk of trauma to the head, why shouldn't I be concerned about the face part of the head?

I get everyone has their own tolerance for risk, but I wouldn't be surprised if full face becomes more common as these have become sufficiently light and well ventilated.
  • + 27
 “Can’t spit through chinbar...”

Never found that a minus with my Super DH......
  • + 45
 Don't even try. Your helmet will spit right back at you.
  • - 3
 can't say I've ever felt the need to spit while on a bike ride. Is MTB trying to emulate pro football (soccer)?
  • + 3
 That really doesn't seem like a 'con' to me either... Shouldn't be doing 'those' activities that require spitting whilst wearing a helmet!
  • + 9
 I wondered why that was a con for the first helmet but not three others with similar obstructed chinbars.
  • + 22
 Next review: Enduro goggles.... con can't scratch itchy eyeball
  • + 3
 @AyJayDoubleyou: more of a swallower, are you?
  • + 2
 I was hoping for a review of full face helmets that included which ones are best for smoking saggrits, instead only got info on what not to wear while I got dip in my cheek.
  • + 2
 @DutchmanPhotos, I didn’t really consider that as being a negative either until I tried other helmets with an unobstructed opening on the chin bar. It makes a difference, at least to me, and it helps make it seem less like you’re wearing a full face.
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 Water bottle mounts?
  • + 16
 zip tie it to the vents, it helps also to lean into corners
  • + 1
 Is there a 29" version ?
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 @Andi361: thanks for the pro tip! I'll include you in my final speech when I won enduro nationals.
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 Giro Switchblade may be heavier, but from personal experience, it saved my face in a big face first smash when racing. So from a real-world (not EWS racing) amateur racing perspective, the extra 100-200g in weight is nothing compared to the safety performance when you really need it.

Props to Giro!
  • + 1
 I had a Giro Switchblade come apart in a crash...and I'm not the only one. There's a whole thread on MTBR:

forums.mtbr.com/apparel-protection/giro-switchblade-failure-1041207.html
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 @Circe: Yes and the conclusion copied from the thread is as such:

"Ok, so a helmet, that breaks after a hard crash and you suffer from concussion didnt do its job because it should not break and prevent you from any injuries... right.

of course would be the purpose for the chinbar to stay on, but at some point it has to crack somewhere... yes, a full on DH helmet would be safer and anybody that thinks a convertable helmet is as safe as a non convertable helmet is pretty naive. ASTM is just a norm that a helmet has to pass. It doesnt say if two helmet pass these norm that they are equally safe.

hybrid helemts are always a compromise.

Conclusion:

- Probably would have gone away without any injuries wearing a full on DH helmet.
- probably would have lost all his teeth and broke his jaw wearing an open face helmet
- suffered from (minor) rashes on lip/chin with Convertable helmet"
  • + 2
 @islandforlife: I had a good customer crash in a switch blade and end up with a broken eye socket. The way the switchblades chin bar comes off is asking for it to happen in a crash. I went with a Super DH because the chin bar hooks face into the helmet. That way, if you face plant, the hooks dig further into the helmet rather than sliding out and up and out of the way like the Switchblade. Giro had one job not to make it like the old switchblade, and they failed imo.
  • + 8
 The rotational slip plane on the Super DH works. This winter I hit a patch of ice coming into a g-out and went down hard. My head hit crusted-over snow, and the impact felt minimal. When I got up and took my helmet off to check myself over I looked over at the impact spot where my head hit and there was a rock poking through.
The helmet took the impact (left a nice dent), and the rotation from the snag of that rock. I was totally fine, and I truly credit the helmet for that.
They even sent me a 30% off coupon for crash replacement. I just wish they would sell the half shell alone so I didn’t have to buy the whole setup again.
  • + 1
 I hit my SuperDH from a side at lower speed ( hugged a tree at 15km/h or so) and the helmet didn't even had a scratch. I cannot not tell for sure that the slip plane helped. I felt a little dizzy for about a minute, the effect was similat to that when you receive a basket ball in the head so nothing dramatic.
Your impact was for sure stronger. Did you check the internal layer of the helmet to see if it got deformed more than the outer layer? I would expect that the different density helped more than the slip plane in your case.
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 I think the rotational slip plane works pretty well too. I had a lay-down in the trail the other week (bent cranks and pedal) and hit my head pretty hard. I'm certain that if I wasn't wearing a helmet with that feature it could have been a lot worse.

I'd actually recommend the helmet a lot. I've been travelling around NZ for the last few months with mine and its been great to have both types of helmet in one.

That being said, I am on my second Super DH now.
The first one was the same colour as the one tested and the liner fell apart within 6 weeks.
The second one the adjustable cradle is broken (and now has been well crashed) so will have to go back for replacement too.
  • + 1
 @uskas: The inner layer did not show any deformation, but the outer did.
  • + 9
 I only wear Beanies, bc if you drop a helmet it will break but has anyone ever Seen a beanie break? Case closed and thanks for listening to my ted-talk
  • + 10
 How about the MET parachute? Would that not fit this category?
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 The 'Muricans bros disqualified it a couple of years ago for being too "Euro".
I'd just like TLD to release a full US redneck edition with flames and dragons.
  • + 5
 The MET parachute looks kinda goofy, but the fit is super good and comfortable. Fits better than any other helmet I've tried on.
  • - 3
 @Whipperman: I’d rather wear Flames and Eagles with Ramen track suit and fanny pack than Met Parachute... the only helmet I can think of that is more hideous is the Lazer...
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 @WAKIdesigns: If it wasn't for folks on Pinkbike I would never know if my safety gear looked cool or not.
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 @Rusettipasta: mine looks effing rad and is damn comfy despite the lump at the back oh my head, which the Bell just attacks immediately.
  • + 1
 @acali: I don’t have those problems...
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 @BenPea: Damnit, I seem to have the exact same lump, as I've noticed the same thing happening with the Bell.
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 @Rusettipasta: the hazard of excess braincells
  • + 0
 @Whipperman: Its coming, 4th of July edition.
  • + 1
 @Whipperman: Redneck edition would have to be a fat dude wearing a wife beater and cutoff jeans riding an ATV with a gun rack and drinking whiskey with his wife/cousin on the back and 3 pitbulls following.
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 @davec113: I see you’ve been to one of my family BBQ’s
  • + 6
 Is there a comprehensive lists of all these helmet safety standards? I've got to admit I'm a bit lost. I know for back protectors you have level 1 and 2 (and I know 2 is higher but I don't know the criteria) but for helmets I'm completely lost. Yes I've read the impact requirements in the article, but I recall there are also penetration requirements etc. There is currently no standard on the transmission of rotational impacts, I get that too. But for instance motorcycle standards like Snell and DOT, would some of these still make sense for riding bikes or is the deceleration way too high? And what about CE? I know it basically says "it complies to applicable standards" to help dumb things down for us Europeans, but now I've got to admit I don't know what these "applicable standards" would be for a helmet like this.

And the big question of course would be: if these lightweight enduro specific helmets are already DH certified, is there a higher standard that tells the not so lightweight true DH specific helmets apart?
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 @vinay, Helmets.org and Helmetfacts.com are two good resources if you’re interested in learning more about the differences between the testing standards.
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 @mikekazimer: Thanks a lot Mike! It appears helmetfacts (owned by Giro, Bell etc) has a great description of all these standards so that's what I was looking for. Funny enough helmets.org seems more independent though they seem more on the foot of Snell. Good to browse through someday.
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 Here's what the article *should* have explained about safety. All of these helmets will protect your skull from fracture caused by a huge impact. The difference--a hugely important difference for you, if you care about your brain--is how they'll protect you from a *concussion* caused by a *smaller* impact. The problem is that, after years of talk, the industry still hasn't come up with any relevant testing standards, an appalling failure that's doing lasting harm to a generation of riders. What we do know is that there are two ways to reduce risk: reducing rotational forces and making the helmet "softer." Regular old MIPS (the yellow plastic liner) only does the first, and it may only make a difference in the lab not in the real world where your head isn't a hair-free, sweat-free dummy. So standard MIPS may be better than nothing, but if you care about your brain you want something more. Both the Super DH and the DBX 4.0 helmet here provide that. Spherical MIPS and Leatt's Turbines work in a similar way, with little squishy things deform to absorb rotational energy *and* squish to absorb energy from smaller impacts. Without a modern safety certification standard and independent testing, we can't know for anything for sure (sorry, blame Giro/Bell probably) but your best bet by far of the helmets here is the Super DH or the DBX 4.0, whichever fits you better.
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 While I definitely agree with you, I don't think the blame for concussion protection really lies with the helmet manufacturers. The medical world doesn't really have a good way of diagnosing concussions or traumatic brain injury and until there is, any discussion on how to best prevent those is theoretical at best.
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 @BlackVR: Nonsense. That's like saying we shouldn't do vehicle-safety testing because it's hard to diagnose whiplash. Whether you can diagnose a concussion in an individual has essentially nothing to do with establishing standards for rotational and lower-force impacts. Maybe the numbers will change over time as the science continues to progress, but that's zero excuse for failing to establish standards like 4 years ago.
  • + 1
 ..
  • - 1
 But, sure, thanks for all the good info on spitting.
  • - 2
 While the Leatt and the Bell use a similar technology, they're significantly different. The Leatt is a single foam shell with the squishy things on the inside, against your head. The Bell is two shells with the squishy things between them. Which design is better at preventing concussions? Impossible to say. The advantage of the Bell design is that the *entire* inner surface moves--you don't have to guess whether the squishies are in the right spots. But the disadvantage is that the two-shell design is bigger and heavier. Besides being a potential comfort and style issue, that also means there could be more leverage on your head in a crash (longer, heavier lever arm). All things being equal, a smaller, lighter helmet will protect against concussions better. My guess is that the Leatt is a bit safer overall, but that's really just one keyboard warrior's guess.
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 The science is conclusive. Dont hit your head and you wont get a concussion.
Everything else depends on the person. My skull/brain is slightly different than everyone else and so is yours. What may be a minor hit for one person could knock out another person.
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 @Boardlife69: Definitely varies person to person. And a key point is that, once you've had one concussion it is much easier to get them. Most people don't think much about getting a safer helmet until after they've had a concussion, but actually it's the people who've never had one who can benefit from a safer helmet the most.
  • + 1
 Agreed, which is why I really like the 6D helmets. They really look into those aspects and have worked to reduce all of those types of impacts. The thing is big, but their science is solid. Their website is chock-full of data.
  • + 7
 Is the word Helmet also insulting in American English?

"He is a right helmet".

I demand to know
  • + 8
 In my 28 years of life, I have not heard that as an insult in American vernacular.
  • + 22
 Yes, the word helmet refering the end of your meat sceptre. Otherwise know as a bellend.
  • + 6
 @austinlink my gift to you good sir!
  • + 2
 @mat-massini-media: Fun fact: on this side of the pond we call flared pipe fittings bell end fittings. And the hilarity escaped a lot of my coworkers.
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 @mat-massini-media: Lol only British English, we Americans don't tent to use helmet for anything derogatory.
  • + 2
 @mat-massini-media: Dickhead in American
  • + 6
 No mention of side mirror compatibility? A must have accessory for UberEats riders..
  • + 7
 wait, is spitting through the air vents a thing, now?
  • + 3
 i had the Giro Switch Blade was a very good skid lid, one problem i had was that where the chin guard clips in it wears out very quickly if like me you are taking the guard on and off alot, i had a crash and the guard just come off the helmet and after that it was loose, next thing is trying to get the guard on when its on your head takes alot of practice and is difficult with gloves. to get the helmet on and off you need to remove the chin guard as well.
  • + 1
 I fully agree. The one stage of the Squamish Enduro that I did not take the helmet off to put on the chin guard, I crashed and quickly came to the realization that one side was not in properly. Fully a user-error issue here, and I was totally fine, but it is worth noting how easy, or difficult, it is to switch between half shell and full face. With the Switchblade, and after a year and half, I still find it tricky and need to take the lid off to put on the chin bar. Also agree that is really is tight around the ears putting the helmet on and taking it off... Maybe I go with the Bell next time...
  • + 2
 Could you make a review on which Fullface helmets have the best field of vision?
I don't really need a fancy helmet with super high level of comfort or airy fabrics.
But the lack of vision when you ride super steep stuff with a lot of helmets is kinda annoying.
I have big goggles but most of the time wearing a neck brace which makes it worse. But better save than sorry.
I saw a few pros riding the POC Air Spin which seems great.
Maybe I will get that.
  • + 2
 I've had the Fox for approaching a year. It's very well ventilated for a full face and pretty lightweight. I haven't noticed a pressure point on my forehead like the reviewer - everyone's a bit different after all... A couple of minor things, I find the buckle is a bit fiddley and also for some reason I keep getting insects coming in through the chin guard.
  • + 2
 have found the same thing with the insects unfortunately. getting a bee in the face is never entertaining.
  • + 2
 I think if I saw a bee fly in your face, I would be very entertained Smile

The forehead pressure point for me was fixed by using one of these" traxfactory.com/store/product.cfm?product=3
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 @Thustlewhumber: strange I never had issue with pressure point till my proframe broke and when I got the warranty replacement the new one felt like my goggles strap was sitting across my forehead
  • + 2
 Big fan of the Super DH here, I've been wearing one in the SE for about a year now and got to test the Spherical MIPS in earnest at least once. I clipped a pedal on a log poking out in to the trail in a fast section, I was immediately ejected OTB and landed on the side of my head. While it was a hard hit and left me feeling momentarily dazed I was amazed at how well the helmet dissipated the force, I actually felt the layers "slip" at the moment of impact too. I didn't hesitate to pick up another Super DH to replace it.
  • + 2
 Got the Fox Proframe myself for riskier endeavors like getting out of bed.
Quite surprised at how light it is and breathable. Was good for belting down sections of DH track in the morning of a lovely mild Aussy Summer Day (cough 30+ degrees).

Haven't smacked it into a tree or the dirt so can't comment on the protection part of it but hey, I'm not trying to be a Crash Test Dummy. I'll take cool and comfortable for now.
  • + 1
 Friend of mine has smacked his ProFrame into a dirt when he went otb. The lid broke but it saved his head. No head injury thank god for that. I have had few crashes on mine as well, and it protected my head just fine. So thumbs up on the protection bit.
  • + 2
 I think there's a market for kid's ventilated full-face helmets, but they have to be in the $100-150 range. The mouth protection is a great feature for all kinds of kid rides from trail to DH. Can't shell out $200+ for a helmet that they grow out of in a year though.
  • + 2
 Tried a Leatt. Impossible to take off in assembled mode without ripping ears off.
Had a Bell (3R admittedly) and was so tempted to get this new one but had a bad incident when the chin bar disconnected at impact so ... no thanks. And besides its too tempting to leave it off or at home when you should have it on.
So i bought a Proframe and love it. Happy to wear it on all my riding. Dont even know its there most of the time. And its hot here. All. The. Time.
Brilliant venting and easy buckle. Would be nice to have the ratchet adjustment but thats not a deal breaker.
Yes can spit through the chin bar but more importantly can get the camelbak hose in.
  • + 3
 Same experience with the proframe. Only time i wear an half shell at this point is just tooling around the neighborhood. As a trail helmet, it doesnt have any downside that isnt heartily overcome by the increased protection
  • + 2
 Feels like these helmets give a false sense of safety. In no way are they as safe as a 1kg+ downhill helmet, just compare the thickness of the EPS for example. Also a friend got 3 teeth knocked out and had a very bad concussion after crashing wearing his Fox Proframe. I was not there but it was not in any way a high speed crash, just the weight of him and his head onto a rock and the chinbar failed. He is now riding a POC full face.
  • + 3
 Gotta say that potentially the helmet wasn’t fitted properly or done up tight enough.

Had a crash in my Pro Frame the other day. Full over the bars, at speed into a tree. The chin bar was the first point of contact and took all the force. It cracked in 3 places but my face was totally fine.
  • + 1
 I agree, I am not a fan of the Switchblade, got a concussion from a pretty minor crash on two separate occasions (separate helmets also). Now I ride with a DBX 5.0 full face for pretty much all my riding, honestly once you get used to it its not so bad. I have a Proframe for more XC riding, but I am done doing jumps or drops in anything but my DH lid.
  • + 5
 The Stages is the best helmet! Pro tip run the straps for the TLD helmet under the foam pads its way more comfortable!
  • + 4
 "Can't spit through chin bar" ranks up there with "Can't eat cheeseburger while riding", or "Can't talk on phone with helmet on"
  • + 2
 Does it? I usually save my cheeseburger eating until after a ride, but imagine sprinting up a brutal hill in the middle of a race and needing to get rid of some saliva - it’s a nice feature to have.
  • + 1
 @mikekazimer: isn't that a sign of dehydration? Don't you have issues with most chin bar helmets with spitting. You have to look up and spit down. Or lift up a bit on it and spit down.

For me it's more about actually breathing because I'm a fat azz. Chin bar sits close to my face I pass out because I'm breathing my own used air. At that point I'll spit on my face. Don't care. LOL!
  • + 2
 When will makers consider that fact the rider should be able to choose different buckle types on the same helmet?
I know the fidlock is comfy, but I don´t trust it as I´ve managed to lost my helmet while crash due to fidlock.
  • + 2
 I like the look of that Fly Racing helmet. I would definitely consider buying one for my next full face if I could get a good deal. Really stylish. I wish more companies would use the clicker band inside for fitting around the crown. With a bean head it's not always possible to get a good fit with pads.
  • + 1
 I own a Switchblade and I really like it. It came with two sets of padding, a thinner one and a thicker one. The thicker one is fine for me. One day I lost one of the pads in the chinbar. I thought I could replace it, but the thicker pads are not available as spare parts. Not cool Giro Frown
  • + 1
 I have the Switchblade and I've found myself wearing it just like was mentioned in the article. I bought it initially for my light park riding, but I wore it a ton in the fall last year when it's slightly warm design was a feature rather than a bug.
  • + 1
 I have the super DH and wear the top half as my every day helmet. I got to say that sweat channel works like a charm. The sweat collects at the front tip and drips away from your face. It’s a little thing but in regurlar use it’s a very welcome feature.
  • + 1
 The Fox Proframe saved my life last year during a big crash. Chin bar cracked almost in half and the foam was absolutely shattered. I was concussed and lost about an hour (?) of memory (only remember bits and pieces at least) and ruptured a kidney and liver but I survived with no longterm side effects.

I'd like to mention that the new Troy Lee helmet costs almost double the Proframe here in Australia making it an absolute non-choice. $300 or $500? Hard to see why anyone would go for the Troy Lee with those price tags.
  • + 1
 I have the Super DH and found that with the chin bar in place I can always get in enough air when climbing.
I've never felt the need to spit into the chin bar(I always either lift the chin bar up, or push it down), so I don't see the anti-spit-through bar as a problem either.
  • + 1
 Not that much experience in helmets, however right now I'm using MET which is have a most comfortable fit, however, lacks MIPS; and I saw face injuries with MET, so right now I'm in the market for the more secure helmet;

Tried BELL, it has a closer chin bar position to your face comparing to MET, which makes it less comfortable and breathable for me personally; however, mips works awesome;
Giro - ridiculously small size chart, and auto ejecting chin bar;

As all mentioned, FIT is the most important part;
  • + 1
 I own the Super DH. I agree with the review that it's very functional as a fullface. And it works fine as a halfshell too, but I doubt most users would be happy with it as their everyday trail helmet. It's quite big (because there are two shells with the MIPS Spherical thingies between them), heavier and sweatier. Also, for me it sits a bit low in front so that I'm always pushing it up away from eyes during a ride.So I think Kazimer has it exactly right here--great fullface with the flexibility to convert to a halfshell for trips/races etc. But don't buy it expecting it to be a great everyday halfshell with the flexibility to convert to a fullface. (Also, Bell is owned by Vista Sports whose subsidiary makes AR15-copy assault rifles, and REI & MEC don't carry them any more for that reason, so if you care about that then keep looking.)
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 I use mine as an everyday half shell pretty happily.
  • + 1
 @bjh0003: I did for a month or two but then went back to a regular trail helmet (Kali Interceptor).
  • + 1
 constructionwise there is such a big difference between lets say a proframe or super dh and a propper well ventilated dh helmet, they feel and look cheap. i like the leatt and even more the fly though. you can see where the additional 200 bucks went. (the same goes for the 100% aircraft)
  • + 1
 "Unfortunately, there's currently no standard in place that tests the efficacy of these features, but talks are ongoing among various manufacturers and organizations in order to implement a standard test procedure." Yeah, it's only been six years since the article on Bicycling on helmet certifications. How many years have talks been "ongoing" now? How many more years? Shame on the whole helmet industry.
  • + 2
 I know that pretty much all helmets come out of the same factories in China, but I don’t see the Fly being on the same level of construction and quality as a TLD.
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 Same factory can product entirely different products, its all in how the factory is instructed by design, development, product people at the brand.
  • + 4
 Leatt got a lot better lookin’.
  • + 2
 Looks almost like they've used the same mold and the fox.
  • + 0
 @Trudeez: They look and feels totally different. Stage looks more like Proframe
  • + 1
 @Retrovertig0: Stage looks very little like a proframe
  • + 1
 Need more love here for Bells sweat channel feature. As a sweaty bastard and one who rides in the middle east that is a game changer. No more sweat in the eyes or all over my glasses.
  • + 3
 Please more light coloured options for full face helmets. Black ones get really toasty in the summer sun!
  • + 1
 Gee, what riders really need is a fullface helmet review that tells them more about which ones are easier to spit out of than it does about which ones are better for preventing concussions.
  • + 1
 I own and have ridden extensively with the ProFrame, Parachute, and SuperDH. I agree with Pinkbike's pick- SuperDH best of the lot by quite a bit. Visor fits neatly around a hip pack and stays in place on the way up.
  • + 0
 That Giro Switchblade is the ugliest helmet I've ever laid eyes upon in "halfshell" (maybe better to call it 3/4 shell) mode. I wish the Leatte DBX 3.0 had been included since it's right in line with the Switchblade and Super DH. Leatte seems to be the only manufacturer with a convertible and a light full face.
  • + 1
 Don't F- around with your helmet , get the brand that fits good , I cant find a bell that fits but I can a Giro for example . A seemingly small but direct head impact can really chill your ass
  • + 2
 "Can't spit through chin bar" Kazimer's Dippin on the trail and aint gonna let nothin stop him
  • - 1
 If any of these helmets don't have a strong front chin guard facia forget about it! I've had a few friends that faceplanted wearing the 1st gen Giro full face helmets didn't do there jaws and teeth any good. These helmets are just for fashion statements, I'd grab myself a motor cross helmet for safety!
  • + 3
 Google the words ASTM downhill certification
  • + 1
 I find it interesting that most EWS/serious enduro racers use a dedicated dh helmet and not one of these enduro style helmets.
  • + 1
 Fox and TLD are starting to get into light enough weights where those helmets make sense for trail riding. Still need to shave off a couple hundred grams.
  • + 1
 TLD is the lightest on the market, try one, you wouldnt want it any lighter.
  • + 1
 @stikmanglaspell: The UVEX Jakkyl is 630 grams with a removable full face guard. I think companies can make a lighter one for trail riding.
  • + 3
 The Proframe vents are great bee catchers. Ask me how I know.
  • + 2
 Ok, we gonna test some ENDURO helmets... (And the 1st had a big DH on his name)
  • + 2
 Bicycle helmets are not motorcycle helmets, that's all I can say. You need tons of ventilation.
  • + 3
 Orders new helmet, PB posts this article 5 minutes later.....
  • + 3
 What? People spitting while wearing a full face is a thing?
  • + 1
 yeah, I also developed special technique for FF helmet spiting, so I don't spit inside of helmet.
  • + 2
 Race the Megavalanche sometime, than tell me how many times you spit on your fullface helmet.
  • + 1
 I bought a fullface helmet for any ride that is in the woods/offroad as Im a beginner but cant wear 1kg on my head. (I have an Oneal Backflip)
  • + 2
 The Bell Super DH chinbar can be worn quite comfortably around the waist if one is not fat.
  • + 1
 With the Giro Switchblade, you can always take some of the padding out if you want it to breath better.
  • + 1
 We need to get bicycle helmets added to the Sharp Report for proper testing. sharp.dft.gov.uk
  • + 1
 I'm in the market for full face and this is exactly what I needed right now! Thank you!
  • + 1
 All i want is a poorly ventilated openface lid for winter days like the urge real jet (which doesnt fit me at all)
  • + 2
 The Switchblade for when you ride your mototrials bike to the bike park...
  • + 2
 Could've sworn I clicked on Pinkbike and not vital mtb.com
  • + 1
 Any tips which goggles go fine with the Bell? My Oakley Airframe is to big and the 100%s also don´t fit well.
  • + 1
 My Giro googles work great.
  • - 2
 Can´t believe the micro adjustment of the rear like in Bell is not mentioned or positionned as a clear Pro and Cons on the others... To get your helmet moved around without having crash with big impact it sucks A LOT... So it also sucks to may keep suporting weaponry industry...
  • + 1
 Are people climbing in these full faces?
  • + 1
 Sure are. I climb comfortably in my Leatt when the downside calls for it. Welcome to the future where the world climbs in peace in a full-face on 170mm bike Wink
  • + 2
 What about 100% helmet?
  • + 1
 They haven't released a convertible or ultra-vented lightweight DH helmet yet. They have a guy wearing a Bell on their All-Mountain section....
  • + 1
 The Bell in open face mode still looks like a, um.... bell?
  • + 1
 At least it doesn't look like the whole dong.
  • + 1
 i use the stage for enduro racing, very niiiccce!!!
  • + 1
 no 100% Aircraft? Interesting.
  • + 1
 IMO the Bell Super DH is in another league vs the others.
  • + 1
 Spit is very important isn't it?
  • + 1
 When does that Endura version come out?
  • + 1
 Erm. I have a Giro Chronicle and a Troy Lee D3... so I guess I am set?
  • + 1
 Great review, one of the best developments in the industry lately.
  • + 1
 Bummer MET Parachute wasn't included.
  • + 1
 The Fly helmet looks stunning!
  • + 1
 That 100% looks fantastic. Yeah it’s pricey I know.
  • + 0
 Old school spaceman you say... but I want to be A Rocket man
  • + 0
 I cracked my Fox Proframe after less than a year ;(
  • + 4
 What took you so long?
  • + 4
 As much as that must have hurt in the wallet, if it was a crash situation and you didn't get concussion I'd say it did it's job well.
I was looking at a Proframe about 16 months ago when I got my full-face, but got an absolute steal on a factory sample Fox RPC instead (Fox's full helmets seem to fit my head shape well) . Even at that price, the want to not damage the lid is itself an effective crash prevention.
  • + 2
 @ROOTminus1: Yeah, the crash was pretty brutal but I didn't get concussion. At least I hope so. I got some nice battle scars on my back instead. Looking for a roost deflector now. Wink
  • + 1
 My cats breath smells like catfood
  • + 1
 I saw one split in half. 2 pieces.
  • - 3
 Or just buy the Leatt if you don't like that Bell's parent company markets assault rifles.
  • + 1
 #murica
  • + 1
 I'm not a gun person at all (at all) but Vista Outdoor is moving away from the firearm aspect of their holdings and in reality, Bell Helmets has zero to do with any of the other businesses with the holding company's other businesses. Your statement definitely raised my eyebrows, but I just looked it up....definitely not directly related.

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