Depends on perspective. I used to think this too, but my son is almost 8 now, and while bikes are expensive, he isn’t interested in playing hockey like I did, so if you aren’t buying hockey gear, plus not paying hockey league dues, a good bike and season pass isn’t likely that different in cost, either more or less. All depends on perspective.
Note: all kids in this article have nicer bikes than me. By a long shot.
Well, if you buy a second hand jr bike you can usually resell it for the same or close to the same price the next year. So the cost is only maintenance.
@VwHarman: agreed. If my young ones develop a passion for it I'll pay that price to help their growth. Things like biking, tennis, swimming, golf, etc can be enjoyed for your entire life but I think its best if you develop the love early. If my older brother hadn't given me his older but good quality mountain bike when I was a kid I probably wouldn't be riding today.
I was thinking that there were quite a few who seemed to have off sized bikes compared to their own stature... But those two seemed the most extreme examples!
They're definitely on different sides of the sizing charts, but the perspective is also way different. Devinci guy is standing with his toe under the rear tire, Intense girl is standing 3' back.
we've come to a time where a size small in many brands is nearly or past 1200mm, with 29" wheels and 160mm suspension, so no way that's gonna look proportional to a 1.65m rider
I think it's fair to say that 5' girls and 6'2 or over guys have a difficult time buying bikes that fit. Only in the last year or two have I started to see bikes with numbers that make sense for me, and at 6'2 I'm small-tall, not TALL.
@jmhills: I am 6'2" and I ride an XL transition sentinel and it might be a bit to big for me. Transition, with my experience, has had some pretty spot on sizing, they also go all the way up to XL
@jmhills: @L0rdTom: Should I buy a downhill bike? I'm 6 foot 4 and still growing at 17. I'd like to have only an enduro bike, to be able to access more trails and whatnot. But on the other hand, most enduro bikes are way too short for my liking. I would not at all mind using a chairlift of hiking my bike, and prefer more protective and less pedal-friendly pads. PB what's your opinion and personal experience?
@Hayden2248MTB: as a shortarse at 6'2 it's hard to say for sure, but I'd try test ride some large reach and long chain stay bikes. Many bikes are coming out with 530mm reach or more. The new stumpy Evo is a great example, but if you've got the dollars then something like a Nicolai geometron might suit better. Would be great to see a round up of current options for non-medium riders @brianpark@mikelevy.
Whether you buy a DH or enduro is up to you and your trails, and also what your friends ride, but personally I'd say if you aren't racing DH, an enduro sled will do an excellent job on DH tracks, with far more versatility.
@Hayden2248MTB: I do not ride an enduro or DH bike and never have. I might not be the right person to ask on this one. I would look through the classifieds section and buy a used XL of some sort. There is no reason to spend a bunch of money on a new bike that you are going to outgrow.
@Hayden2248MTB: Keep in mind. Even if the DH bike feels more natural under you, you are MASSIVELY limited in what/where you can ride with it. It needs to be a park or shuttle access. If thats right out your back door and thats all your ride, then go for it. If you don't have access to that stuff super easily then no point in only having a DH bike.
@Hayden2248MTB: go rent one, you may find a big enduro has more room then a DH. The seat angle on a DH makes the reach number on paper not at all like the enduro.
The scary part is that I could name nearly 100% of the models before the caption... Probably should ride my bike as much as I spend on PB or other bike sites!
Nice to see the Scream at top. Pippin Osborne, one of the founders and designers of Banshee and Syncros, passed away this spring. Rest in Peace Pip. You will always be remembered.
@deepcovedave: Agreed. I was sad to hear when he passed away. I've been doing some digging and asking around, but he was an incredibly private person and I haven't found anyone who knew him well enough. If you've got any suggestions of who can tell his story properly, send me a message!
Still got my 2006 Scream, also with Monsters. It's an absolute pig to ride now though and at 54lbs I genuinely don't know how I used to fling it around
best of show? banshee scream, obviously. amazing he's still got an arrow tire on there. wonder what the weight spread between that & the spur below it would be? 10lbs+ anyways.
also: what's with all the too long chains? *bike setup neurosis triggered*
Pretty much any wide range transmission will look like it has too long a chain when on the smallest cog. Once again I made the mistake of shortening my chain because, like you, I could not accept to have a chain that was too long. It resulted on very poor shifting especially on the biggest cogs. I pit back 2 of the 3 links I took out and dremeled my B-screw to have my upper jockey wheel sit close enough. I should have put back the 3 links since even this didn't restore the flawless I had with a "too long" chain, on I only rock a 11-46 so imagine on a 10-50.
Its a vibe. Can't look too racey, or freeridey or even too dirtbaggy....so gotta look like you party train on every run with a Kokanee in the bottle cage.
I'm actually curious if it survived the day. I'm all for the "less is more"-attitude of new school trail bikes, but there are limits of what those things were designed for.
@BenTheSwabian: that was me, i've been riding it non-stop for the past month. It held up great in the park but i just rode A-line all day. Still waiting on some parts for the Patrol build so it was ride the Spur or nothing, super capable little bike!!
Based om durability and ruggedness of design combined with shredability, this article tells me what you want to own is a Banshee or a Wilson.
I have had two Banshees and a Wilson. All of them still ride under new owners. Two of them were in Whistler 2013.
Sold off the last Banshee Spitfire V2 (-13) this week - maybe I should have kept it.. they are going up in value again now that you can mullet them. If my new bike wasn't a Knolly I might have betted it might outlast it.
No no... Actual must have is twisting the bottom of the pants, like i just learned from these photos. Showing cool socks is now more important than neck braces...
yeah i was super surprised to see so many people wearing roost guards, but not neck braces? SCI is both likely and catastrophic, compared to whatever injury a chest protector saves you from. I cant imagine wearing a chest protector but not a neck brace, seems super backwards.
Every time I see a GT I immediately think 'RENTAL'.. are these ppl posing with their rental bikes? PS. Nothing against GT... but that's how I see them!
Can't decide whats more savage, putting an SLS spring on a Van R or riding with the red covers on the 40's pressure knobs. Always love the raw gambler though.
Obviously not a competition, but based on the looks, Remy's grey Propain Spindrift with the dual crown fork is my favourite. With the raw alloy Scott Gambler as a close second.
We hear a lot about the need for bigger bikes but I see also a lot of riders needing small bikes, especially with the rise of longer bikes and big wheels. Maybe some 26 XXS park bike won't be so bad...
I guess tall people are more vocals than small ones
Can't wait for the border to open. Canada please let your brothers/sisters from a common mother in while the BP is open this year. My 10 year old Blindside is getting restless in the stable!
I dont dig this new trend with bending the long pants for the socks sake ! like for real,we re riding bikes not here for some haute couture show.....kids
@laceloop: man I dig coool socks and basically most my socks are cool,but christ with this silly kids new trend of just twisting the bottom of your pants just to show them off....like wtf ..... ride bikes have fun .... dont be too trendy dont push it that way....
@T4THH: spare me. most of the time they re short anyhow....and people complained now they finally look alright and " they re too long " .... show me a case of someone crashing because of the pants touching the chain...seriously now
On Maxxis tires, do you 1) align the valve stem between the XX in "Maxxis", 2) align the valve stem next to the tire size and psi rec, or 3) who cares put it anywhere?
The Norco Sight kid should see if the Devinci Wilson guy two pics before wants to trade. One has bike up to his waist the other has bike up to his shoulders lol!
to be fair, I have never used an elbow pad that wasn't distracting and annoying. despite stitches a number of times on the elbows, I cant bring myself to wear them
Pretty much. The days are long over where some dickish troll can be all "It's an 'ok' sign. Relax dude!", and have anyone buy that BS. F*** that guy and his yeti.
they're not huge in canada. i could be wrong but i haven't seen one on the trails here in BC. there's one shop that just started pulling in some frames that i know of.
@crysvb: Tons of Evils over here on the island.. strange that the mainland see's less. Same w Forbidden's - round here every 3rd bike is druid. Kinda like Commencal over here - as in - there are none. Likely to do w dealer networks.
If this was a BMX version, kids would be throwing the bird up ganster style....happy to see smiles and metal horns instead. Also damn Yeti dude got me.
@lacuna: the key is just to not watch the news. I've worked and played as usual without skipping a beat the last 18 months. All while living in the greater Los Angeles area
@hallio7: I became stronger and some of the worst symptoms subsided over time. I've been vaxmaxxing for almost 4 months now and I feel as though I'm becoming something greater than human now.
Note: all kids in this article have nicer bikes than me. By a long shot.
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Er, PB maybe we could make them for human sized fingers not tree frogs?
Whether you buy a DH or enduro is up to you and your trails, and also what your friends ride, but personally I'd say if you aren't racing DH, an enduro sled will do an excellent job on DH tracks, with far more versatility.
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"f*ck it, Brandeene! He's gonna grow into it."
also: what's with all the too long chains? *bike setup neurosis triggered*
You didn’t see the video from Monday of the dude riding Dirt Merchant on a BMX then...
m.pinkbike.com/video/506147
I have had two Banshees and a Wilson. All of them still ride under new owners. Two of them were in Whistler 2013.
Sold off the last Banshee Spitfire V2 (-13) this week - maybe I should have kept it.. they are going up in value again now that you can mullet them. If my new bike wasn't a Knolly I might have betted it might outlast it.
Actual must have is twisting the bottom of the pants, like i just learned from these photos.
Showing cool socks is now more important than neck braces...
PS. Nothing against GT... but that's how I see them!
I think I would choose the Pivot Switchblade.
*Facepalm*
Some sweet looking rigs out there that need a healthy coating of muc!
If you had to ride for the day on one of these bikes, which one would you choose?
Has to be the scream for me as it would probably be so frightening to ride compared to anything remotely modern.
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