Avid Unveils New 2012 Brakes

Mar 15, 2011
by Mike Levy  
Avid debuts three new brakes for 2012, including the top tier Elixir 9 model. I spent two wonderful days at the School Of Avid in Santa Cruz, California, using the new brakes while doing my best to keep professional shredders Curtis Keene and Kyle Strait in sight. Video and all the information inside.Avid makes some big changes to their lineup with the addition of the new Elixir 9 and Elixir 7 models for 2012 that take the place of the current CR and R models. While the general shape of the brake looks similar to the previous offerings, there are enough updates that the new Elixirs are really an entirely new platform. So, the question is why would Avid make major changes to their current lineup, especially when their brakes are already a favorite among many riders? The updates for 2012 focus on improving reliability while making the system easier to bleed when it comes time for maintenance.


2012 Elixir updates:

• A redesign of the Taperbore internals that facilitates a more effective bleed
• Reconfigured detent reach adjustment dial
• Redesigned caliper
• Completely new rotor designs with updated sizes (available in both 6-bolt and Center Lock)
• Updated caliper mounting brackets for less sizes and lighter weight


<span style='font-size:21px'>Avid's top tier Elixir 9 details:</span><br><br>- Adjustments: tool free reach, tool free contact adjust<br>- Carbon or alloy lever blade options<br>- Weight - 358 grams<br>- MSRP $215 USD
Avid's top tier Elixir 9 details:

- Adjustments: tool free reach, tool free contact adjust
- Carbon or alloy lever blade options
- Weight - 358 grams
- MSRP $215 USD
<span style='font-size:21px'>Avid Elixir 7 details:</span><br><br>- Adjustments: tool free reach<br>- Carbon lever (<i>aftermarket</i>), alloy lever (<i>original equipment</i>)<br>- Weight - 350 grams<br>- MSRP $179 USD
Avid Elixir 7 details:

- Adjustments: tool free reach
- Carbon lever (aftermarket), alloy lever (original equipment)
- Weight - 350 grams
- MSRP $179 USD


Avid's Taperbore design is very different than what you'll find in any other brake system. A traditional master cylinder (your brake lever's internals) uses what's called 'timing ports' with a plunger to move brake fluid as the lever is depressed. As the plunger's head passes over the port, it closes it off and pushes fluid down through the system. This design has been proven to work well, but is not without its issues, one of which is that each time the plunger passes over the timing port, its sealing O-ring scrapes over port, damaging it over time. Depending on the tolerances, this could be an issue sooner rather than later, or it may rear its head further down the road.

The Taperbore design does away with the timing ports, instead sealing off the master cylinder by forcing the plunger's O-ring into a tapered barrel as the brake lever is pulled. Not only does this system move more fluid, thereby better managing heat, but it also lets Avid's engineers better fine tune the system's power and modulation to suit the brake's intentions. Even more beneficial, especially in the long run, is the fact that the sealing O-ring no longer passes over the timing port, meaning that it is less likely to become worn or tear over time.

Avid continues to use their proven Taperbore master cylinder design for 2012, but has made major changes to the internals.  The new version (<i>right</i>) has its bleed port on the main lever body, allowing it to forego the extra sealing O-ring that the previous version (<i>left</i>) requires between the contact adjustment dial and lever body. The side-by-side comparison also clearly shows the difference in how the inside of the master cylinder is shaped on the new version in an effort to better control any air that may be present in the system, preventing it from getting past the seals and into the brake line.
Avid continues to use their proven Taperbore master cylinder design for 2012, but has made major changes to the internals. The new version (right) has its bleed port on the main lever body, allowing it to forego the extra sealing O-ring that the previous version (left) requires between the contact adjustment dial and lever body. The side-by-side comparison also clearly shows the difference in how the inside of the master cylinder is shaped on the new version in an effort to better control any air that may be present in the system, preventing it from getting past the seals and into the brake line.
The new Elixir uses updated internals, but the same great lever geometry that positions the lever's pivot closer to the handlebar. Thankfully, the Elixir's comfortable lever blade shape is also carried over to the new models.
The new Elixir uses updated internals, but the same great lever geometry that positions the lever's pivot closer to the handlebar. Thankfully, the Elixir's comfortable lever blade shape is also carried over to the new models.


While the new Elixir 9 and 7 models are sure to get the most attention, Avid's new Elixir 1 also comes to the ring swinging. It may lack some of the bells and whistles of its more expensive siblings - no contact adjust or tool free reach - it still uses the Taperbore internals. The 1 also retains the G2 rotor and doesn't use a split perch, but comes in at an impressively low $89 USD. Who out there remembers when you could spend well over $200 USD an end on V-brakes? Expect to see the Elixir 1 as OE spec on a lot of bikes for the 2012 season, as well as being a strong upgrade option for those who are ready to ditch their cable actuated brakes.

Probably the most visual change to the new brakes is the addition of completely new rotors that forego the slotted design for an arrangement of small holes. Avid acknowledges that the G2 rotors could be prone to 'warbling', especially when wet, and this new rotor design is said to resolve this issue. Rotor sizing has also been amended, with Avid joining the majority of other brake manufacturers by using 140, 160, 180, and 200mm evenly sized rotors. This has allowed them to simplify their range of adapters, as well as redesigning them to shed a few extra grams.

The new rotor design does away with the slotted holes that the previous versions used, instead using a pattern of small holes.
The new rotor design does away with the slotted holes that the previous versions used, instead using a pattern of small holes.



Check out Mike using the new brakes in Santa Cruz


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Video by Taylor Sage

So how did the new stoppers perform? It goes without saying that two days on a new product does not qualify as a proper test, especially when talking brakes, where long-term reliability can play such a large factor, but I did come home from my time in Santa Cruz with a few early impressions. The engineers at Avid smartly carried over the positive attributes of the previous version, including the great lever geometry and shape that my fingers feel so at home on, but have also made some changes that are quick to spot before even hitting the trails.

There were plenty of opportunities to come in hot and get loose, including this one for Adrian Marcoux's camera.
There were plenty of opportunities to come in hot and get loose, including this one for Adrian Marcoux's camera.

The new brake's contact adjustment dial is now shaped symmetrically, as opposed to the older version's single large protrusion at the bleed port. Four smaller ridges not only make it much easier to turn, but it also features well defined detents. Reach adjustment also seemed easier to dial in, not that the previous model's dial was very hard to turn, but the new dial is certainly more user friendly. Giving the lever a hard squeeze gave me the impression that the new brake's perch felt to be slightly stiffer, although I would have liked to compare back to back before betting money on it.

The two days using the new brakes were spent on fast trails trying to keep up with professional shredders Curtis Keene and Kyle Strait, both of whom pushed me well beyond my comfort zone anytime the trail pointed down - a good opportunity to gather some feedback on the new stoppers, even if it was only for a few days. As mentioned above, the perch felt somewhat stiffer, but the good news here is that Avid was able to carry over the same great modulation and power while making the changes noted above. If you are a fan of the feel of their current brakes, you'll love these as well. Firm at the lever, a gradual slowdown of the wheel, and a smart and usable amount of power.

Riding with those who are faster than you, Keene and Strait are just out of frame and pulling away from me in this photo, is a great way to get the feel for a set of brakes.
Riding with those who are faster than you, Keene and Strait are just out of frame and pulling away from me in this photo, is a great way to get the feel for a set of brakes.


Video by Taylor Sage
Photography by Adrian Marcoux

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Two days on the new brakes does not qualify as a test in the slightest, but I came away with a good impression of the new 2012 brakes. Making them user friendly seemed to be the name of the game, with more reliable internals that allow for more exacting bleeds, as well as changes to the tool free adjustment dials that make sense from a gloved hand's point of view. Stay tuned for a more detailed review down the road.


134 Comments

  • 77 5
 2012 stuff already? Damn, why don't they show us their 2013 brakes too while they are at it..
  • 20 0
 Seriously, march is jumping the gun a bit.
  • 8 2
 its barely 2011 and they are releasing 20012????!. they should of released these as their 2011's, just hold of distribution for a while and stop teasing us for next year
  • 7 0
 its no different than whats been done in the past. the auto industry does it too. im sure they are well into 2013 and beyond designs.
  • 1 0
 ill take a left and a right perch and use my ultimate calipers i like the e-9 perch
  • 2 0
 Sure hope they fixed the fact that the new clamping design breaks your lever, and not the clamp, in just one crash lol Can't tell you how many of the new Elixer levers I've seen break!
  • 1 2
 jut get xtr trails, they feel sooo nice!
  • 1 0
 would 2011 codes have the same problem?
  • 1 0
 2011 Codes are safe. However, last year's OEM Code CR Mags had the breaking lever problem. Basically, if the lever has the oldschool two horizontal bolt clamping system, you're golden. It's the new single vertical bolt clamping design like the picture above that breaks. I'm an Avid fan, but gotta say that they f@cked up this time. I WAY prefer an extra few grams than $200+ every time I crash!
  • 46 1
 throw away your old elixirs! These will ones will also help you ride up-hill faster.
  • 12 0
 i prefere my ancient hope m4's anyway, just because i can get spare seals in the uk:P
  • 26 6
 Saints FTW
  • 10 1
 codes...so good.
  • 7 1
 saints are to touchy
  • 3 3
 shimano sucks apart from the saint line, and even then you can get much better breaks such as formula or hope or magura for not too much more, or the same price
  • 18 0
 why would they make new stuff for 2012? waste of money considering the world is going to end..
  • 14 0
 everyone knows thats a myth, now excuse me while i get into my shuttle...
  • 17 3
 i don't care about fancy looks or light weight, why cant we just have brakes that work faultlessly, all the time.. look at MX bike brakes.. bog standard system, lever, nice sized master cylinder and a decent caliper, no tapershite technology or whatever. MX brakes may not be pretty, but they damn well stop the bikes and don't need such frequent bleeding.
  • 10 1
 and they weigh as much as my fork. I know you're not super concerned about weight but it's a whole different scale on mtbs and considering that our engine is our legs... weight savings do help a fair amount. I think taperbore was created to improve the braking power and throw so it really is a great idea that I think they executed well. I personally have never had an issue with any of my Avids and just recently bled my elixers. I had no problems at all and they feel great afterwards. Just follow their instructions!
  • 4 2
 Did you read the article? There's quite a few paragraphs explaining how the taperbore should extend lifetime and reduce the need for bleeding. Time will tell if it's just marketing hype of course, but there's no point in being dismissive right out the gate. Also with MX brakes weight isn't as much of an issue so components can be beefed up more - but it's fundamentally the same technology so it will have the same share of issues too. And no matter how well designed a brake is, there will always be some type of loading, somewhere, by some person that will push it too far. Witness in this very thread all the 'I had this brake from this company once and I didn't like it, therefore by extension all brakes, past, present and future from this company are terrible' posts.

Weight might not be an issue to you but when I'm grinding up a 2 hour ascent I'll take all the savings I can get. It's the thing with designing any component - no matter what you do, you will have legions of people complaining that you should have had a different design focus.
  • 5 1
 "taperbore SHOULD extend lifetime" 'should' being the key word there. but when my 2011 code comes f*cked out the box i'm less than impressed.. it'll be a warranty job, and the SRAM guys and the BDS are normally pretty good and will sort me out, but still, we shouldn't have this issue
  • 13 3
 stop complaining. If you dont like them dont buy them. you cant expect to have 0 factory defaults. Sometimes shit happens. Deal with it
  • 4 2
 When it comes to a component that's as critical as stopping my bike, and the price of these components, I sure as hell do expect 0 factory defects. Seems to me like Avid need to step up their QA processes.
  • 3 0
 Theres no such thing as 0 factory defects. It always happens and its not just in biking. From my experience bike parts are way better then any other industry ive read about or bought from (ie Phones, Computer parts).

And all the bike companies ive read about deal with defects extremely well. The price is low for a reason, its called mass production and there is no point to mass production if you test the hell out of every product.
  • 2 0
 Good QA costs money. I assume you are prepared to pay more for it? I don't actually know how brakes are assembled but if it's by production line then extensively testing every single one that comes off is going to add major cost. It has to be absorbed somewhere - either the company eats the loss and has less money for future investment or they pass the expense onto you. From the companies perspective they are damned no matter what they do.

@Bisk: Which is why I said time will tell if it's all hype or not. Maybe 6 months down the line all these fancy new ones will explode due to an unseen flaw. But it's just as likely that they might all last years and years with no servicing or bleeding. There's no way to tell so all this FUD isn't helping anyone.
  • 1 0
 Lawsuits also cost a lot of money. I think most brake failures would become apparent when you needed them most. Anyway... I posted below about other Avid QA issues. Considering the cost of the high-end brakes I'd have thought a part of this expense was due to QA. I have a set of Juicy Carbons on my bike right now, so I'm no Avid-hater, but my next set definitely won't be Avid.
  • 1 0
 Ahh we sortof misunderstood each other a bit. What i meant by factory defects were obvious problems. Like recieving nonfunctional brakes. I think that is totally understandable. Factory defects as in wont show up unless under massive pressure i dont know if that is even a factory defect or just a flaw in the actual product. I havent heard any horror stories of brakes just not working though....
  • 1 0
 on my 2nd set of 2011 codes from warranty and about to have a third round, each have about 3 runs on them each. garbage. its nice to have a week downtime each time when they send new brakes. pos.
  • 1 0
 Have you considered that maybe its your fault. Thats just ridiculous. You either have the worst luck in the world or your doing something wrong. btw Its probably not a good idea to lever adjust with a crowbar.
  • 2 0
 Sometimes shit happens. Then you wipe.
  • 1 0
 the first set of brakes the pad contact adjuster came off, and on the front the pistons seized. and i had the same piston issue on the second pair.
  • 1 0
 ouch that sucks bigtime. ya i dunno, i just havent seen too many people with that many issues with them other than bad factory bleeds
  • 7 0
 I'm still running Hayes Mags from 1999, with EBC red pads and until they die, they're staying. Zero maintenance, like 12 years zero maintenance!!!!!!! Still, all my mates swear by Avid...
  • 12 7
 seriously?.. ANOTHER model from avid??.. barf... how many freakin' models of brakes does avid need to "redesign" before they come up with one that lasts a few runs without needing a bleed... how about a system capable of keeping air out??... i've owned Juicy 7s, Codes, Juicy 5s, and some OEM Elixers on different bikes and they've all suffered the exact same issues... i've had no brake issues ever since i switched to ABS brakes (Anything But Sram)... sorry to hate, but with the dollars i've put into their products (and runs they've ruined), i've more than earned an opinion. Love their drivetrain and suspension stuff... but if you weigh more than 80lbs and/or ride runs with more than 200 vert, forget about avid.
  • 5 0
 It's exactly like that! always had problems with avid. My saint just works perfect =)
  • 2 0
 my codes work perfeclty fine, from 08. and my new x0's no problems so far. maybe its not the brakes, maybe its ur lines.
  • 1 0
 dude i had no problems with my juicy 7's, ran them on my enduro for close to 4 mounths, in cold, wet, dryish conditions, and never had a bleed, than i bought a gambler, used them for 3 weeks and no problems at all, sold them and are still doing good, i decided to buy saints for the extra power, but none the less juicy 7 did the trick. So i don't know what your talking about, it was most likely a bad bleed every time, next time you get a bleed watch the way your lbs bleeds them, if you bleed them get someone more experienced to help. when bleeding, make sure the lines are getting tapped with the soft end of something like a screw driver which will help get the air bubbles out, also make sure there is close to nothing of the old brake fluid in the chamber. hopefully that helps with your problem.
  • 1 1
 no offence w-e-w, but it sounds like you or your mechanics are not bleeding your brakes properly.
  • 1 0
 And from my own experience, I've owned and raced my juicy carbon brakes for over 4 years now. I've also put 40+ full days in the whistler bike park yearly, and these brakes never let me down.

We all have our tainted experiences with bad product. I'm just wondering what the 'same exact issues' you talk about really are.
  • 1 0
 well the shotty mechanic theory is an easy assumption, but i assure you it's not the case.. i've also run goodridge lines, so not an issue with the lines either.. the issues i've had are consisent brake to brake and amongst 3/4 of the riders i know on Codes.. the issue is air inevitably getting into the master cylinder through the labrynth of seals and lever adjustments.. the result is a brake that work awesome when it's working, but doesn't work for long... eventually, with air in the system, you get the "pump, pump, brake" phenomenon, which is always fun when you're coming in hot.. the other issue is if you've got your bike hung vertically on a wall, lift, NS rack, or whatever, the problem gets worse.. especially if somebody pulls one of your levers while your bike is hanging... i will correct myself and say that i had no issues with my Juicy 5s after 4 seasons of riding xc wiith them... two factors being no tool-less lever adjustments and not as much hard braking as DH as compared to the other models i ran.. I'm not one to spout off about crappy bike products and generally, my bikes are tight.. but their are two things in my "never again" list... avid brakes, and Specialized Command Post... another story.
  • 9 2
 Bwaark! bat books bice
  • 2 0
 hah, face jackr Big Grin
  • 1 0
 yea mate. Brian Badonde Big Grin
  • 1 0
 bes! bats bot bi bas boing bo bay
  • 6 1
 damn those are seriously ugly rotors, what was wrong with the g2 rotors??? They look the best imo.
  • 2 0
 Only problem i've ever experienced with my Juicy 7's was this one time the pad retaining clip got caught in the rotor due to my pads being too low. Otherwise faultless since new. Never bled and i've had them for year and a half now.
  • 3 0
 "Avid acknowledges that the G2 rotors could be prone to 'warbling'"



Weren't the G2 rotors released to fix the warbling issue with the old polygon rotors? Are Avid saying they didn't actually fix the issue?
  • 2 0
 Avid wouldn't admit this, but most of the issues with the elixirs are in models that have contact point adjustment. The feel, power, and weight on this line is great (not to mention great customer support), but if you wan't reliability (at less cost) you have to go with the elixir R's, or the elixir 7's, or the "X-7's/5's", or the code R's. The extent of their product line is ridiculous, no doubt.
  • 1 0
 neither of those brakes have contact point adjustment, if you are specifically talking to me.
  • 1 0
 i'm 100% with bvd on all points
  • 1 0
 I still think the juicy Ultimates were a better design. I have a set of 7's they wont see the light of day again due to some issues, but I found the ultimates to perform far better then both my Elixer CR carbons and my Code X.0's all have been rebled. each to their own I suppose.
  • 1 0
 Until they use CPS mounting system to mount the calipers to the adapters (like the things was in V brakes) - i will NEVER buy their product again. My juicy 5s works effortles with 1 bleed in 1 year, and about 1-2 break pads too. But this CPS Mounting system is sux, i brake a harder one, and the caliper just moves away cutting the rotor every time - than get back to the caliper to the center and runs smoothly another harder brake and the caliper moves to the rotor again. Otherwise Juicy 5 brakes are fit and forget.
  • 1 0
 "Avid acknowledges that the G2 rotors could be prone to 'warbling'.... ", "The 1 also retains the G2 rotor..."

WTF avid!? are you serious? why don't you just get rid of the G2 and G3 rotors then and use the new holed rotors. epic fail!
  • 1 0
 i have had a rediculous amount of problems with avid brakes. first, i have juicy 3's stock on my bike. then they started warbling on both brakes, making braking extremely inconsistent. then, those got warrantied to elixir 3's. yeah! but one problem all the time was that they constantly moved farthur in, and i would have to stick a flathead screwdriver in between them to spread em apart. they also had very inconsistent contact point. but then, the rear one had a leak of some sort, so i couldnt use the rear brake, and that was on race day, so my cornering sucked. so then those got the calipers warrantied. now they are still having that inconsistent contact point, and the closing in on the rotor problem. i would never buy aftermarket avid brakes.
  • 1 0
 i have had a rediculous amount of problems with avid brakes. first, i have juicy 3's stock on my bike. then they started warbling on both brakes, making braking extremely inconsistent. then, those got warrantied to elixir 3's. yeah! but one problem all the time was that they constantly moved farthur in, and i would have to stick a flathead screwdriver in between them to spread em apart. they also had very inconsistent contact point. but then, the rear one had a leak of some sort, so i couldnt use the rear brake, and that was on race day, so my cornering sucked. so then those got the calipers warrantied. now they are still having that inconsistent contact point, and the closing in on the rotor problem. i would never buy aftermarket avid brakes. all of my story was within six months. and no, i am not riding punishining downhill. i ride moderate xc/am.
  • 1 0
 there's something to the bleed issue, i've had juicy 3 5 7 and elixer r, the 7's problem with bleed, i don't think they have a sealing problem, but the avid fluid is full of dissolved gas, if you bleed them really spend the time to get every last bubble out otherwise they'll bubble under high load and it's a non-stop pain in the ass, the the 3 5 and elixer'R's have been OK but i think the elixer's are 7 mos on and are now due, I think the Hope TECH V2 looks decent anyone tried them?
  • 2 1
 HOPES all the way, I have had my mono 6tis for 6 seasons of lift riding almost every weekend all summer and never a problem, flawless power, modulation, looks quality, super easy to bleed and have only had to bleed them for maintenance, never from a failed brake.

During those 6 years all my friends have tried all the avids, shimanos and some hayes and they never last, they just keep wasting money on new brakes and the hopes are perfect..

Avid has to be the biggest joke of a bike company making huge profit off they poorly built and designed products.... Do the big wigs even bike???

I feel they are not a company made of bikers but more of a marketing team, some engineers and factorys in china.
  • 1 0
 I am a very dedicated proponent of v-brakes for most riders, but this interests me if it is truly going to be $90 a brake, line, and lever. This could be a very reasonable upgrade for many users who would be happy with 1 disc brake such as the front on an XC or dual use bike. I expect the "trickle-down technology" will be very nice, too.

I have avoided Disc brakes for a very long time because of the expense, the hassles, and the complexity. I still think V brakes are the best for most people because of their serviceability in the field and the effect of a 26" rotor :-), but I might be willing to buy one of these new brakes at $90. At $50 I would definitely buy it, even if it was a "lower tier" product and looked "uglier".
  • 10 6
 An Elixr that doesn't fall apart mid run!? About time. Cheers SRAM
  • 7 3
 Or need bled every weekend? We'll see...
  • 2 0
 yet they still have the stupid bite point adjuster....... way to improve em sram. elixer 1 or 7 if i was gettin any of em (which i wont if im spending money on em)
  • 1 1
 does the elixir 2010 have any problems ,
  • 1 1
 I will be happy if avids dont need constant bleeding.. That is my only complaint about their brakes, otherwise they are a gem. and bleeding is not that big of a deal... just part of the routiene.
  • 5 1
 i ride my bike both days every weekend and only have to bleed my brakes usually 2wice a season mayeb your riding your brakes to much????
  • 6 1
 Or it could be that I ride my bike EVERY DAY.. and Do shuttle laps downhill All weekend.

Salute
  • 3 1
 maybe or your brakes arnt being bled very well?
  • 5 3
 i have had the same problem with any avid i have owned switched to shimano and have never had a problem
  • 5 1
 ^^^ The truth.
  • 3 1
 that is my plan. Smile
  • 3 1
 I've got 2009 or 2010 Elixir Rs, had them for a year and they are still sweet, not bled once. Just get a proper bleed and you're laughing!
  • 1 0
 I'm really starting to wonder if these guys are properly bleeding their brakes. I've ridden elixr's and Juicy 7's, had Juicy 7's on my last brake and they were so crisp feeling I could EASILY brake using 1 finger no matter the situation. Granted I've got a set of Hope Tech M4's on the way for my new bike, I still have Juicy 3's on my DJ bike and find all they needed was a good bleed and they're good to go. I'm convinced a lot of guys that complain about their brakes don't spend the time or have the patience to do things right.
  • 3 0
 I've got Shimano brakes that I've never had to bleed. Statistically, Avid brakes need to be bled more frequently. Ask your LBS.
  • 1 0
 Yup, I remember the early days many years ago When I had to rely on the Lbs to bleed em for me.... What a Easy way to make a dollar.
  • 1 1
 as i have stated earlyer i only bleed my juicys and my elixer around about twice a year and after i have bled them they are sharp as you like and i 1 finger brake till the next bleed i might suggest if you are having trouble drive out all the old fluid before appliying new fluid (and remember to degass the fluid when you bleeding)
  • 1 0
 Yeah yeah, I have a trade ticket and a degree in Hydraulics, So I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing... avids need more bleeding. You must be super awesome.
  • 1 0
 You have to bleed them twice a year? That's terrible! Better than the average though...
  • 1 0
 thx for all your replys on my comment ,just didnt know them well, i always been whit shimano ,but a bud of mine as them on his 2010 intense 951 ,will they be anough for dh
  • 1 0
 yeah, they'll do fine. They are powerfull enough, just that somtimes they need to be bled more frequentlly than other brakes. I have run Avid for years Riding dh.
  • 1 0
 thx ill let him know
  • 3 0
 is it just me that thinks that sram is making the biking idustry a f***** joke.....?
  • 1 0
 i dont know why anyone who isnt sponsored by avid would run avid at all theyve let me down and many other people that i know. i ran saints for a whole season and didnt bleed them once... shimano know exactly where its at
  • 1 0
 avid elixir R and avid elixir CR blahblah...those work fine...i sold the saints and kept the elixirs...bleeding brakes is part of the business dudes....get with it or go BB7 mechanical....

GO FAST/GO AVID!
  • 1 0
 dear SRAM/Avid, can I expect to be able to run the new centerlock rotors with my existing 2010 elixir CRs? PS thanks for finally making centerlock rotors, my jerkass shimano wheels won't take substitutions
  • 1 0
 Looks good, seems like they solved some of the issues with the bleeds and the fact that they had little to no room for air in the system. I guess SRAM was listening
  • 2 1
 I've rode several bikes with elixrs and none seem to keep up with hopes or hayes... Hopefully these ones will as elixir is a jazzy name haha
  • 2 0
 Good to see progress from Avid, but I still think I'll stick with my Magura's...
  • 3 1
 Hate the twats who just put down props on every comment, just fuck off would you!
  • 2 0
 maybe avid is closing their doors too and want to realese their latest and greatest product asap
  • 3 0
 Dont like the new rotor design.
  • 1 0
 these brakes are dumb the elixir 9 is almost identical to the elixir cr, and the elixir 7 is almost identical to the elixir r. What is the point of this?
  • 2 1
 They solved many issues from past years, making some "Avidized" version of the Formula Oro Brakes.
Congrats!
  • 1 0
 thats what the juicy was. (well it was made by formula at first!!!!)
  • 3 1
 so many mixed view on the elixr range maybe i should stick to hopes ?
  • 2 0
 I know my new rig has Hopes on the way for it.
  • 1 0
 and i´m riding my saint since 09 and didn´t have to give em a bleed since.
  • 1 0
 I had Juicy 7 and Formula one but now i'm back to Elixir X.0 they are sweetBig Grin Bleeded perfect and will work perfect!Big Grin
  • 1 0
 I had Funn breaks work better then avids. In the end I will only ride hope just because there gold dammit.
  • 1 0
 I forgot about the company funn....hahahahaah
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 People spend too much money on brakes. If it stops the bike its doing the job
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 I'm loving the looks for 2012.. Bikes now parts, cant wait to see what other products have in store for us.
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 ah! i ordered Elixir 5 few days back! and suddenly they release newer models.
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 dont worry.... if you ordered 5's you obviously werent looking at this price point.... you didnt miss out.
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 Not to mention, its only 2011.
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 ^^^ The truth.
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 hope > any other brake.
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 SWEET
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 So sick! Avid definitely sets the bar when it comes to brakes.
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 obviousley, you haven't used any other brakes because Avid elixir brakes are in my experience not that good they just feel terrible compared to other brands
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 these are useless with Gripshift unless that knob is removable
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 o man, i don't know how you use gripshift.
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 Look good, but i'll stick with my XT's
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 Hopes m4 all the way
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 thats some sexy brake!
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 i road that trail last weekend
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 looks good... And I like the new rotor aswell.
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 Formula Brake still Kicks Avid ass
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 already got me a pair.
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 shit brahke
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 Avid is probably just worried that 2012 might never come
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 Quality Brakes!
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 Shimano brakes are the best hands down. It's funny how many companies have begun to somewhat copy their designs. For example the new hayes calipers look fairly similar to the design of Shimano's. My 2007 Shimano Saint brakes are probably the best brakes I have used to date.
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 Thers nothing wrong with Avids, they are still quality. And I bet shimano make quality brakes to but this blog is on AVID so I will talk about avid Blank Stare
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 pball19ac - Nice. I totally agree. I grabbed the first pair of Avids I could when the Juicy 7 buzz was going (several years ago mind you) and I did enjoy the modulation, but got a bit concerned when I was booting down a-line and found I had ZERO! power. I ended up buying a used bike with the 07saints on them later that season and those brakes have now been on three bikes. Not one bleed needed, excellent power and modulation adn the levers feel great (obviously not to everyhand, but perhaps I have Japanese hands Smile ha ha. Go shimano! Plus if I ever did have to bleed them (which will likely never happen) I'll be happy to know that I haven't poisoned myself when I get some oil on me - mineral vs dot fluid - go mineral!
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 Finally! No more 185mm BS! Also, sorry, but the new rotors look vomitastic. They'd look so much better if they were circular, not hexagonal. I love that black chrome finish on the 9's, wish it was on more models!
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 want them Smile
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 double post...my bad.
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 p-p-p-p-poaccchhhhhhhhh
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 i got the sram xx anyways
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 Love My MX-1
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 whats the price on a set
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 did you even bother skimming through some of the information, or just look at the pretty pictures?
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