Commencal Expands its Meta AM Platform - Eurobike 2011

Sep 9, 2011
by Richard Cunningham  
Commencal, the Andorra based Bike maker is on fire with its latest Meta dual-suspension platform. We rode the Meta AM in Whistler, where the bike's just right head angle and well-mannered trail suspension seemed perfect for any situation from mid-mountain play riding to the rolling singletracks in the Lost Lake area. Commencal introduced the entire Meta Family at Eurobike, with travel offerings from 130 to 160 millimeters, and even had a 29er in the mix.

Meta AM
The sweet spot of the Commencal Meta lineup, the Meta AM-1 has 150 millimeters of suspension travel on both ends of an elegantly executed 7000-series aluminum chassis. New for its AM/Trail models, Commencal's 'Contact System' suspension drives the shock with a rocker link through a tunnel in the bottom bracket area where the lower shock eyelet is mounted to the swingarm. Contact System is said to relieve stress from the main frame and its leverage rates are designed to encourage bob-free pedaling without interfering with the suspension's action beyond the mid-stroke.

Commencal launched its Contact System suspension and all-new chassis design with the 150-millimeter-travel Meta AM. Early reports from test riders indicate that the Meta has the right stuff.

Fox is Commencal's suspension of choice, with a 32 Float RL FIT 150 fork and an RP2 Boost Valve shock. Drivetrain is SRAM X.0/X.9 2 by 10, and Brakes are Formula RX with 180mm rotors. A RockShox Reverb seatpost underscores its AM designation, and with a 67-degree head angle, a 73-degree seat angle and a low, 13-inch bottom bracket, the Meta AM has the right numbers for the job.

Meta SX
Commencal's ride for those who want to go big and still get around the woods without a shuttle is the 160-millimeter-travel Meta SX. Slightly slacker, with a 66-degree head angle and a 72-degree seat angle, the SX can push harder and go steeper than its more trail-oriented brothers.The SX has a 142/12 through-axle in the rear and a 20-millimeter up front. Front suspension is the Fox 36 Float R and the rear end is controlled by a Float RP2 XV Boost Valve shock. Topping off the Meta's All-mountain fest is a RockShox Reverb dropper seat post. The Meta frame has ISCG-05 chainguide mounts, but comes with a SRAM X.9 2 by 10 drivetrain. We'd have liked a roller guide on a capable machine such as the Meta SX (easily fixed). Sizes are small, medium and large, and the Meta SX comes in yellow only.

Meta SX Details: (clockwise) The Meta SX is one of the least cluttered AM/trailbikes we've seen in a while. Internal cable routing makes a difference • The Meta frame uses a wide-stance, press-in bottom bracket system and features an ISCG-05 chain guide mount • Beefy, clevis-type suspension pivots and a 142/12-millimeter through-axle keep the Meta SX tracking straight and true • The Fox 36 fork separates the SX from its trail-oriented siblings • Commencal lock-on grips, Formula's RX brakes, and the hydraulic actuator for its Reverb Seat post -- top quality in the control room.

Meta AM 29
All-mountain 29ers are the buzz in the Pacific Northwest, but the dust has yet to settle on the genre's frame geometry. Commencal's Meta AM 29 features the same frame DNA as the 26-inch-wheel Meta range, including Contact System suspension, internal cables and hoses, and a balance of handling and component choices that enable the Meta rider to take on technical trail situations. Suspension travel is long for a 29er at 130 millimeters, so care was taken to minimize the head tube and handlebar height. The Meta 29's 68-degree head angle is slack for 29er-specific geometry, but in keeping with its purpose. Commencal wisely chose stronger-stopping Formula The One brakes to handle the larger-diameter Fulcrum Red Power wheels. Suspension is all Fox, with an RP2 shock and 32 Float RLC 130 fork. Commencal says the Meta AM 29 is its only 29er model, and will be offered in medium, large and XL sizes and in white only.

Meta AM 29 Details: (clockwise) Commencal's 29er is so well proportioned, due to its longer travel suspension a large-volume tires, that it is easy to mistake as a 26er • A through-axle rear end is tantamount to a flex-free 29er design - so is a hard-stopping brake. The Meta AM 29 has both • All Metas have tapered head tubes and internal routing for cable housings and brake hoses.

Supreme DH V3
Commencal developed the Contact System suspension originally for its World Cup DH racing platform. The Supreme DH V3 was surrounded by wishful gravity riders at Eurobike. While not a 2012 model, the Supreme DH V3 is well worth a look for its elegant profile and clean engineering treatments. The three figures on the graphics are the three Atherton siblings who make up Commencal's Pro Team.

Supreme DH V3 Details: (Clockwise) Always a crowd around the Supreme DH at the Commencal display • The Atherton family portrait • Large, forged-aluminum pieces at the forward swingarm pivot handle the forces generated by the Contact System's floating shock linkage • Adjustable wheelbase means that the brake caliper must slide along with the rear axle to keep the pads centered on the rotors.


So that's the meat of the Commencal lineup, but there are more models in the range that you may want to check out. Drop a note if you have any thoughts on the Meta AM range, especially if you have thrown a leg over one.


79 Comments

  • 13 4
 The new meta is beautiful!! But the problem is that there really over priced!!!! The want something like £1500 for frame only the £2000 for frame and shock!!! (rip of??) I've just sold my supreme for £2000 and I was going to buy the frame and shock and build it up how I wanted it. But if I brought frame and shock I wouldn't have any money left for parts!! So I went down to my local bike shop and brought an ex demo 2011 orange five pro (hand made down the road from my house) for £2000!!! And it's got better spec than the new meta so I'm pretty happy!!!
  • 21 3
 are you seriously complaining that a brand new commencal was more expensive than a second hand orange?
they may be expensive but you get what you pay for
  • 3 0
 @Jroe thats pretty much how upgrading works. You cant expect to sell your old bike and have enough money to buy a brand new 2012 bike.
  • 5 0
 I'm complaint that there trying to sell the frame only for £1500 and the frame and shock for £2000. That means that they think a shock costs £500?? And I'll admit, yeh it's not brand new, but it was used twice on demo days at my local shop!! I simply saying it's a bit over priced for what it is!!
  • 1 0
 Buy the frame without shock?
  • 2 1
 Possibly!
  • 4 0
 i wonder when they are gonna design a mud flap for the rear shock? it seems to be in a spot where alot of mud and rocks would build up....
  • 1 0
 it's not an issue at all...I had zero build up on my bike.
  • 4 3
 Also not to mention Commencal bikes look awesome and Orange bikes look retarded...
  • 3 1
 I'm sorry ,I didn't say commencal bikes look bad, in fact if you had read my first post in the first sentence I said "The new meta is beautiful!!" which is true. It's a very nice bike. How ever Dunkaroos? You ride a kona stinky which looks w@nk in my opinion, and orange bikes look very nice and simple which is why in every review on it, it says they are brilliant!! And if you buy a bike on looks your gonna end up with a very nice bike but not been able to to shit all coz it's to heavy!!
  • 2 5
 Okay three things. I'm not saying you didn't say its a good bike, but the fact is you couldn't pay me to ride an Orange bike because they look retarded. Secondly Kona Stinkys are a phenomenal bike for learning as they are able to take a beating better than almost any bike on the market. And lastly if you expect to pay under $3600 dollars for a well built up mountain bike you clearly have no place looking at Commencal bike as any build will cost you at least $5500-6000.
  • 2 1
 How and in what way do orange bikes look "retarded"?? And have you ever riden one?? Also I'm sorry but if you look on any website, you can buy a brand new commencal for $5500, in fact you can buy a new Commencal supreme dh v2 off commencal for €3399 which in us dollars is $4814, and on the commencal website you can buy a meta AM 3 for €2849 which in us dollars is $4035. so I just surggest you do some research next time!!
  • 2 1
 And also I've owned three commencal bikes 2 meta 55's and an ex atherton supreme the reason I brought an orange is because the orange has better spec on it than the new meta (bar the forks and shock) also it was going cheap as it was the demo bike at my local shop, also I had read reviews on them and they were all very good, so I think you need to find something better than orange bikes look retarded to put people off buying them?!
  • 1 2
 In no way have I said that Orange bikes dont ride well, but to me the looks of the bike do factor in. And as for pricing its all up to what you consider a well built up bike. You will not find a good frame with Fox shocks and fork and full saint for under $5500.
  • 1 1
 My atherton bike was well under $5500, I brought it for £2000, and it was in new condition and £2000 is $3236. so how dose that work?
  • 1 1
 One new condition isnt the same a new and two it doesnt have a top of the line build.
  • 1 1
 As in new condition I mean it had been ridden once then i brought it!! And what is "top of the line" in your view?
  • 1 0
 Once it has been used it is automatically worth less. And top of the line to me is Fox or Cane Creek Shock, Fox 40s, Full Saint, Industry 9 wheelset, Maxxis tyres, Raceface bars and cranks and Straitline pedals. You can't find a brand new bike with those specs for under $5500
  • 4 0
 You have no idea do you?? My old supreme brand new was a lot less than $5500 new. And you can buy a new bike with all that stuff on in any combination!!! And how can you have "full saint","race face bars and cranks" and "industry 9 wheel set" when to have "full saint" means saint cranks and wheels all of which my supreme had for way under £5500 brand new!! Take a look and you'll see!!
  • 1 0
 Yeah no you cant. Full Saint to me means brakes and shifters as the cranks and wheelset arent as good as other products. As for the matter of your old supreme, that wasnt a top of the line frame. And yes I have done the math and a top of the line build with those components is going to cost at least $6000.
  • 4 0
 No it dosnt. Full saint is everything possible saint!!!! And my supreme is top of the range. It's the only bike/frame commencal make that is that travel. It's a totally different bike to a supreme DH.!!! And it's got exaclty the same stuff on it as the new V3 DH only it's got 36's and not 40's. And how can you say any bike looks retarded when you ride a kona??
  • 1 2
 First of all, I could care less what full Saint to you means. And as for the fact of what bike I ride, to me it is better than any other bike for learning as it can take a large amount of battering. If I wanted to, I have more than enough money saved up to upgrade to a much nicer bike, but I see no point in doing so until I have either destroyed my bike or start racing. And lastly Orange bikes are far uglier than a Kona and I would never ride them, this is what this argument started over and I think its about time one of us grew up and got over it.
  • 2 2
 Ok. Time for you to grow up!!! But yes I'll agree with your "top spec" part list you would be looking at $5500 for a bike with that spec on it!! But I'm deffinate that if you asked 100 people, 95 of them would say orange bikes look better than a kona stinky, (or less retarded if that's how you want to put it)
  • 3 0
 Hi.
I work for the Decade ( Uk distr. ) and just wanted to clarify the
Pricing on the Meta Am . Rrp is £1650 with shock
Sx is £ 1699. The new 130mm frame prices is not confirmed just

Thanks
  • 1 0
 On the commencal web site it said something like £2000 for the frame and shock. I might have to get one nor the prices are lower!!
  • 1 0
 How much is the frame only?
  • 1 0
 Frame without shock price for the Meta AM is £1250 . Delivery is approx end of October
  • 1 0
 Sorry that should be £1150 for the Am and 1250 for the SX frame :-)
  • 1 0
 Oh well I'll have a think about that!! What's the I to I on the shock??
  • 1 0
 I'm pretty sure the Commencal site is priced in Euros NOT Pounds.
  • 3 0
 I like the Meta SX. The prices of bikes will fall when it becomes a mainstream sport. Meanwhile us enthusiasts have to suffer while the sports it takes one ball to play enjoy their popularity
  • 1 0
 I'm sorry to break it to you but I don't think this sport is going to get much more mainstream than it already has. I started riding mountain bikes 20 years ago, and the prices of bikes have not changed much (keeping inflation in mind, of course). Of course, the technology you get today is a lot more for the money, but I don't see prices dropping in the future. However, I've never felt like I've suffered because of this. There are many affordable options out there like lower and mid-range models, as well as the option of buying used.
  • 2 0
 I went over to the Commencal stand at EB. The guy was really nice and the bikes looked awesome. I was almost sold until the question of warranty came up - 6 months on the DH bike. I thought he was joking at first - he wasn't. That's terrible! Especially for a brand known for making more bikes that snap than pretty much any other
  • 3 1
 These look great, it must have been a tough task for Commencal to try do something better than Meta 5.5. It wasn't the very best trail bike out there, but it was so good, so fun and so well priced.
  • 3 3
 The price on these are the problem!!
  • 2 1
 As with everything else these days. People drool over super expensive high end frames & components with blind enthusiasm, and keep saying development of high end products brings the prices down on regular stuff. Just as if all that R&D with more and more advanced technologies would be focused on increasing performance without the cost penalty. Like microprocessors - double so good every 4 years, at the same price... yea right, some important details in info missing, but it sounds so awesome that I don't care... To some Economy is like ponies: magical
  • 1 0
 did you just compare Mountain Bikes to micro processors?
  • 1 0
 yes, very unfortunate of me
  • 2 1
 Well put WAKIdesignes....the other problem people have is that they drool over the fact that its a Commencal so 'it must be good' when in reality that design is no different (wheelpath specifically) than a Kona. Its a faux bar system [read single pivot] and its got all the issues, pitfalls and drawbacks of all bikes with a faux bar/single pivot design.

Give me a reasonable priced Horst link bike ANY DAY over one of these or Orange or any of the other boutique brands that sport antiquated suspensions. Oh the ignorant masses.
  • 1 0
 Don't worry waki. It was, in fact, a good analogy and it fits perfectly well here.
  • 1 0
 i dont think orange bikes are"boutique". i just think there not very wide spread?!!! (or is it just me who thinks that?) and there are very good bikes i mean just read the reviews on them and you'll see. (or though you probably know that) and i drooled over the new meta for ages. but then i had a ride on an orange and im totally hooked now, but to be fair the only reason i got into DH,MTB or anything like that was because i went to watch the athertons in a race (BDS) and that got me wanting a commencal nothing eles. and to be fair i think thats why alot of people go for commencal. (just my opinion) besides this they are really really really really really ...............................really good bikes. and ^^^vernondan you are entitled to your opinion. and i do kind of agree. people do see things and straight away want it because it looks good, when really its more the rider than the bike!! oh and another reason i brought an orange is because there British made!!
  • 1 0
 Hey vernondan: don't you ride a Bullet? Wink
  • 1 0
 I don't think there's that much hype factor in Commencal, I saw their latest DH bike in person, and if you look closer, undet this cool paintjob and after initial wow - what a suspension, it is rough as a bagger. You don't getthe upper class feeling, like with Trek or SC. Their marketing is pretty modest as well
  • 2 0
 ^^Smike...I USED to ride a Bullet...that's how I learned Wink Have had quite a few since then....that's for sure
  • 1 0
 The meta AM looks sweet, but the float RL isn't a good AM fork. They need to do a talas 36 or a lyrik with uturn. At the very least it needs to be an RLC to do compression adjustment. Still 150mm is too long for 32mm stanchions. But I guess that is why there is an SX
  • 2 0
 BOS DeVille and thy shall not have any other trail gods...
  • 1 0
 Wow. That is a sick fork. For those who haven't seen it: boutique.bosmtb.com/en/produits/p9-deville-160mm

Of course it costs a lot and I've never seen one used, but it looks like the most sensible AM fork I've ever seen.
  • 1 0
 The new Meta AM is a sexy beast! I had the chance to take one for a ride on our local trails and it left me wanting more, much more. I actually wished there was more up hill when I got back to the truck. The bike pedals incredibly well and was super stable going down, no surprises, no thought of playing it cautious going down, just point shoot and enjoy the ride. I will be looking at getting one for next year. I would rate that bike a solid 9/10.
  • 2 1
 shock placement + mud = bad situation

For spring-time riding around here, I prefer frames that don't put the shock in a location that gets covered by mud. Seriously, it is near the top of my frame buying criteria.
  • 1 0
 That is what a hose is for. haha. Sorry bout the negative prop. meant to do a positive one.
  • 1 0
 Commencal have always said that they will be doing a shock mud guard for the DH V3. I believe it's an optional extra that's not available yet, but on it's way. I guess they will fit the other bikes too...?
  • 2 0
 anyone know if the meta sx frame weighs more than AM frame? No mention of it being beefed up, just slacker with 10mm more travel.
  • 1 0
 What a sexy beast!!! Id betta start saving for mine!!! The new commencals are lookin so much cleaner and neater than the old ones. The new suspension linkage is so much nicer lookn than the old old ones as well.
  • 1 0
 dope looking bikes but hopefully the US customer service it better then it is now. i sold my supreme because the service was so bad.
  • 1 0
 Looks aggressive and sounds promising. Especially the SX edition. Re-designed contact system, required mud cover to protect rear shock.
  • 1 0
 WOW... I really liked the look of the new Meta platfrom when they brought it out, but the new Meta SX is more in line with my needs on a bike... I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 1 0
 They look sick I'm still getting used to how big the 29er wheels and tires look compared to the 26's but sick none the less
  • 3 1
 Meta SX - 'Comes in Yellow Only'

You're kidding.... right?
  • 9 0
 hey. strip the bike and paint it pink mate...
  • 1 0
 This bike looks like the uber adrenaline generator and colour has probably nothing to do with it.
  • 2 0
 The meta AM is SICK! i bet thats a 6000$ bike. with the spec shown. crazy.
  • 1 0
 I love the new Meta SX. I want it. LOL. When and where can I pick up the frame?
  • 3 2
 I liked the old Meta 4X more than this new one Smile
  • 3 1
 yea the old Meta 4X fullsusser is a ridiculously fun bike, with bigger fork it feels like sitting on an XXXS DH bike. Low BB, short chainstay and slack, it should be called the funblaster or something. Though I don't agree with people saying it is a great XC/trail bike. It uphills well enough to get you to the top of the descent (for blazing fun), but it can't keep up on frequent up&downs along it's taller brother Meta 5.5.
  • 3 0
 Why I got neg propped, I just said that I liked more the old one?!

That's right WAKI, the old Meta was something like a slope/light FR bike, very nimble, as you said too! And I liked the suspension design, it was really cool, although it hadn't had this much travel.... but still, I prefer the old one over this new! Big Grin
  • 2 0
 There is no new meta 4x? they don't make it any more
  • 1 0
 Well, obviously no... That's what we are discussing about here.
  • 1 0
 how much is the dh frame only looks pretty smart Smile
  • 1 0
 Just keep the bike you ride now and get better are riding it.
  • 1 0
 What´s the DH Supreme cranks ? Is it the new Saint?
  • 1 0
 Very sick machines. Time to start savin.
  • 1 0
 This bike could be a sick slope bike!
  • 1 0
 Meta SX on some deemax will be in my soon to be future!
  • 1 0
 Cool bike, still like my reign x better though
  • 1 0
 Drooled everywhere. Commencal, you owe me a new laptop! (or a Meta AM)
  • 1 0
 Any word on US pricing or availability yet? Do want...

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