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Top ten names listed in alphabetical order together with their most popular meanings (according to wikipedia.org):
Chinook –
winds blowing in the interior West of North America, where the Canadian Prairies and Great Plains meet various mountain rangesChoice -
mental process of judging the merits of multiple options and selecting one or more of themClash -
means conflict but also refers to the name of famous English punk rock bandCure -
the substance or procedure that ends the medical condition, such as a medication, a surgical operation, a change in lifestyle, or even a philosophical mindset that helps end a person's sufferingsInsomnia -
is a sleep disorder in which there is an inability to fall asleep or to stay asleep as long as desiredKarma -
in Indian religions is the concept of "action" or "deed", understood as that which causes the entire cycle of cause and effectPrimal -
being first in time; original; primevalRoots -
the parts of plants that are below ground or one's cultural heritageSequence -
a list of elements with a particular orderShiva -
is a Hindu deity. He is considered the Supreme God within Hinduism. He is described as an omniscient yogi, who lives an ascetic life on Mount Kailashwww.dartmoor-bikes.com
and correct me if i'm wrong. but wasn't the name supposed to correspond with how it felt to be riding through the woods on a bike and having fun and what not?? that's what i remember when i came up with my entries. oh, and my final entry, Regal. is cooler than chinook. or should i say a toyota 2wd camper
PEACE
It is the name up there most fitting what they asked for though.
But we didn't make it in the top ten though, so fug it!
The Dartmoor "Norbs got robbed, Zink sold out to WalMart, Semenuk gets points for being Semenuk, looks like a Trek Session, 29ers are gay, this is a Blindside rip-off"
Maybe they might not of got it all on the toptube..
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nymph .
Insomnia = too many sylables
Karma is overdone
Roots is also too Canadian
Primal reminds me of primal wear or a cheap walmart bike name
Choice seems weak...
Cure is agian, a band and seems underwhelming
Clash is an NS bike and respectfully, an antiquated punk band...
Shiva sounds effeminate, has a broad range of pronunciation and kinda sounds like Marzocchis infamous inverted fork...
Leaving only one IMHO....
Sequence...
-1 for: chinook, choice, and shiva
Eastern mysticism? Can we get something more original to go with a strong English name like Dartmoor? I'd have suggested ale or stout or bulldog. At the least it is...
-1 for: Shiva and karma
Dartmoor is 2 syllables, hard then soft - balance it with 1 hard syllable or the same sound for flow...
+1 for: clash, choice, sequence, cure
I left out roots entirely as the bike is neither a commentary on the seminal film nor painted with Rastafarian colors.
Dartmoor Insomnia is a mouthful - I have a hard time picturing it as the answer to "what are you riding?". Be careful choosing this as you run the risk of arbitrary shortening. Do you want to propup the Dartmoor (as in Audi) or the Insomnia (as in Prius)? Your customers will ultimately decide and potentially weaken your corporate branding. a Dartmoor sequence is no doubt a sequence in this context.
Contest or no, naming is an extraordinarily important part of your corporate identity. Leaving it to a poll on a website or random name toss is how you get things like Chevy Nova. Sure it's a star in English but Spanish? No va = no go.
props, AaGro
oh, and lets try keep the religion out, so "no-no" to Shiva or Karma
I'll shred this bike if i win !!!
So please , stop bitching or generalizing
@Mystyle I don't know you and you might be a nice guy, but stop whoring.
Peace.
Plus, it might be treated as misspelled "shiver", the word which will always bring memories of good old freeride, thanks to great Marzocchi fork. At least that was my first thought.
In fact it is old good marzocchi not like these new shits from taiwan.
Now it's your turn. Find the best name for this frame which will correspond to the freedom of riding through the forests and mountains and living in harmony with nature
If I knew it was pick random names I would have done a lot more.... Not a sore loser just sayin you follow the rules and then the rules don't really apply.
My personal advice to help choose the best one is throw those ten away and go back through the names and find the truly original names like you asked for. While I felt that the name I put down was original and had a shot, I saw LOTS of other names that were very original that had thought behind them and followed the guidelines outlined in the original article. www.pinkbike.com/news/Name-this-Frame-Contest-dartmoor-bikes-2013.html
Just my thoughts. To whoever ends up with the bike, congrats.
As a designer, the naming of products typically follows an associated convention - a rationale if you will.
Given I've missed the research component of this (history + trajectory), I would have to limit my response to purely aesthetics and fundamental meanings. But before I provide a response, I would remind people that the company who produces this product must also be accountable to themselves as much as their customers. Automakers go through a far deeper process, as their products are sent all over the world. The end result comes down to only two things: Does the name imply the correct meaning, and does it offend anyone.
Chinook: I like this. I has a lot to offer in parallel the themes.
Choice: Far too subjective and holds next to no specific meaning.
Cure: Again, relative connotations without focus.
Insomnia: (correct spelling) Here we have a disconnect of unrelated meanings, and please don't defend this name while using the word "cool" (another subjective meaning).
Karma: While names such as this are easily paired to this type of product, I also means it's likely popular ... as in already used.
Primal: While this might be applicable to the "first" product of a new company, the stigma it carries is not where I'd recommend.
Roots: Sorry, I just get an image of a green sweater, or a soft-drink.
Sequence: Have you ever started a sentence with "Anyways..."? Same idea. It needs more.
Shiva: Here is the dangerous one. While the name may be obscure to our culture (and therefore cool), it represents a marketing catastrophe on a global scale. Even locally, this name could get the company into real trouble with local ethnic cultures. Run away from this... please.
Had I been around when suggestions were gathered, I think I would propose: Terra Bow.
It looks like a bow. It's a precise instrument, and dynamic in form.
Just my professional opinion though.
A tor is a large, free-standing residual mass (rock outcrop) that rises abruptly from the surrounding smooth and gentle slopes of a rounded hill summit or ridge crest. In the South West of England, where the term originated, it is also a word used for the hills themselves – particularly the high points of Dartmoor in Devon and Bodmin Moor in Cornwall.
It´s solid, made of granite and smooth....
How about spin off it - Dartmoor 'Carrot'?!? Ha!
Original and controversial - is associated with the Polish.
It would be fitting to release a counterweight for example, the Alpha and the Omega, or God the Father, Son of God
Po mojemu nazwałbym Dartmoor`a - Behemoth. (Wiem, że powstaje teraz jakiś motocykl...)
Oryginalnie i kontrowersyjnie - kojarzy się z Polską.
Wypadałoby też wypuścić przeciwwagę na przykład: Alfa i Omega, albo Bóg Ojciec, Syn Boży
But from the names on top I would chose
"Chinook"
I don`t know but this name has something natural and combines the bike with the nature. The way mountainbiking should be...
me- what the hell! What are you on?
You- it's a Shiva by Dartmoor!
Me- what?
You- a Shiva! S-h-I-vA! Shiva
Me- oh, your bike is a Shiva! I thought you meant your fork. Cool bro!
Name it rather Darius
works well, maybe Dartmoor should call the frame Dart more SX.
Or if I have to pick a proper one "Sequence" ....or "Cure"..... or one of the other 8
: to ride like the wind
Why isn't that up there.
I want to enter a name for the bike name contest. How about "Dartmoor G.O.L.D."
G - geometry
O - optimized
L - linear
D - design
With Pachamama, they'd be tapping into some south american country market. Oh my... I can't joke with religion on PinkBike, just forgot this point of the rules !
it sounds good when you say darmoor before it
Acoma: Some tribe that lived on mountains that look awsome to shred