this is a good video for a contour HD, you can see the bike, the person ahead and the helmet. im pretty happy with the result and its smooth! www.pinkbike.com/video/235973
thats HD ? sort of put me of buying one, quality looks awful! and its depends on what settings they're running at, 30fps will make it look rougher but will be overall better quality, whereas 720p 60fps is generally good enough for a POV shot
Every single helmet cam video all you guys do is complain. Just enjoy the video ,if you cant because contours "suck" then dont no one is making you, but dont start a pointless argument that will never end.
I don't see much arguing bud, looks like most people saying they like gopro vids over contour vids. I get the complaining though, nobody wants to hear that.
kept trying to "Look Up".. seemed it was aimed a little low.. GoPro seems faster looking, with wider angle view..get more peripheral vision that shows more speed.. tough track.. can only imagine what it would be like in the pissing rain.. holy hell.. Congrats again, Danny.
- camera was not mounted securely enough - should have been mounted on the side of the helmet, not the top - video flashplayer does not play 720 60p footage well enough - yours/our monitors don't play 720 60p streaming from the web well enough, PAL 50p seems to play well
This will result in a bad viewer experience. This is not the camera's fault. The solution is to (in order of importance):
- remount the camera more securely - re-work the H264 web encoding for less motion artifacts - create a better flash player to better handle 60fps material - or re-render the video to 30fps if #2 cannot be solved
I use a Countour GPS and even though I don't go as fast as Danny (obviously), mine is never this bumpy! I use the goggle strap, and put it on 720p, 60 fps. It is always smooth and never rough or jittery. I actually convinced a buddy to switch from gopro to contour. I wouldn't use this video as a deciding factor between gopro and countour...
your right^ they need to be set up properly to compare each helmet camera. mine was bumpy at the start then as i learnt how to set it up, it became perfect for what it do
i recon Danny could have said something! a quick "you alright bro?" was all he needed to say! he wouldn't even have needed to stop. i have respect for danny's skill but when a rider crashes in front of you........ neg prop me if you want but thats my honest opinion
It's not often we get to see the world through the eyes of the fastest guy by 11 seconds. Hopefully you can put aside your one brand vs. another battles and just enjoy the video for what it is: Danny's amazing talent on an extremely difficult track.
Tbh. Looking at the parts of track he has chosen I'm pretty sure in the critical places I'm sure you wouldn't go with his lines. They are really insane.
Actually I think he kind of blew threw a couple corners going wide, but then on the last switchback before the finish straight he absolutely rips. For a quick second you get to see his brake manipulation, and he feathers really well.
I knew it was steep, terribly steep, but I never knew it was that rough and rocky. Can't imagine riding that in the dry, let alone wet and slippery. Kudos to ALL the people who've ridden that track, especially Tahnée Seagrave ( dirt.mpora.com/news/tahne-seagrave-champery-edit.html ).
Still might be the sickest run I have ever seen, reminiscent of a similar third place rain run Sam Hill mad a few years ago (I wish I could remember what race that one was) God luck to the man this coming season!
Er on the side of tilting your camera upward more so than downward. Moving on. The whole time watching Danny's footage, I thought about what it would be like to ride that track in the muck. Danny Hart...Jezus, that boy must have received a dose of gamma rays at some point, 'r something.
I can do bar turns and skids.
Got a couple of questions.. 1: Why does Danny mount his contour on top instead of side? It gives better feed back and at his tier of riding, its much for stable (in the video the camera slid to the left a considerable amount) 2: What do those whistles represent? Are they placed at regular intervals along the track so your know your progress? Just curious.
Hear the clicking in the video? and the correlated shaky video? Thats the two piece goggle mount! I sandwich a piece of cloth there to prevent this. I love the profile of the camera, cant stand the mounts though.
Whats with the officials with the Referee whistles posted every so far down the track? They seem to whistle as he goes by, is that to alert the officials farther down the track a rider is coming?
They're called Marshalls and they're posted everywhere you couldn't see someone coming from, twisty sections, drop-offs or crests, blind corners. They blow the whistle when they see a rider coming so that anyone (down hill) who couldn't see them knows to get off the track quick before there's an accident. Problems only really happen then when the spectators don't know this. A friend of mine found a woman right in the middle of the track just after a drop-off last year and nearly busted himself to shit avoiding her. He wasn't furious with her (well, OK, just a little bit) but more with the rest of the spectators for not saying anything to her. They also help riders know if someone's coming up from behind & about to overtake them, so they can best plan where to make a space to let them pass. Marshall's are the unsung heros of all racing, from regional to international. Without them we couldn't race, it's as simple as that. You also have them in motorsport (but without whistles everytime a competitor goes past) to help in case of accidents.
Thats his practice run hes feeling out the course is race run is much faster. Its a cool video because you can tell he is trying to memorize each turn and where he needs to break and where he needs to pin it.
the track and the rider was amazing, the camera wasnt what i spect in the speed but the low shaking in the helmed was enought good for see all the track and the line of danny ;D
Only three words, steep, narrow and nasty
After a few days of rain mountain is not dry today so it will be a perfect DH conditions.
Enjoy your snow, we dont get any.
I don't see the appeal to downhill tracks like this. it's like going as slow as a cross country dude half the time. sure it's difficult, but I don't see that as fun.
dh isnt just about going fast or slow. its about riding the given track as fast as you can so if its a slow technical track they wont be going really fast. in my opinion its still just as fun to ride something slow and technical but each to their own
I just think NZMatt likes faster wide open tracks like MSA or FT William. I unserstand that. Though I think he misses the appeal of Champery. It's a pure technique track. Over a certain point fitness gives you nothing here. No pedalling. It's also a real challenge to ride it well and anyone who has tried it will tell you so.
That being said I prefer a mix of tech and flowy fast. Schladming is still the best track ever for me. Followed close by Maribor.
I love fast flowy tracks. I also love tight techy tracks, both are fun! The former is a challenge to get down quickly, the latter is just a challenge to get down at all sometimes! Particularly a track like champery! That's part of the fun for me.
Also, XC isn't boring or slow if you ride the right bike in the right place in the right way
www.pinkbike.com/video/235973
GoPro seems faster looking, with wider angle view..get more peripheral vision that shows more speed..
tough track.. can only imagine what it would be like in the pissing rain.. holy hell.. Congrats again, Danny.
- camera was not mounted securely enough
- should have been mounted on the side of the helmet, not the top
- video flashplayer does not play 720 60p footage well enough
- yours/our monitors don't play 720 60p streaming from the web well enough, PAL 50p seems to play well
This will result in a bad viewer experience. This is not the camera's fault. The solution is to (in order of importance):
- remount the camera more securely
- re-work the H264 web encoding for less motion artifacts
- create a better flash player to better handle 60fps material
- or re-render the video to 30fps if #2 cannot be solved
neg prop me if you want but thats my honest opinion
Love the snow, Btw, contour is to narrow!
bikefat.com/remembering-dnny-harts-2011-world-champs-winning-run
1: Why does Danny mount his contour on top instead of side? It gives better feed back and at his tier of riding, its much for stable (in the video the camera slid to the left a considerable amount)
2: What do those whistles represent? Are they placed at regular intervals along the track so your know your progress? Just curious.
Problems only really happen then when the spectators don't know this. A friend of mine found a woman right in the middle of the track just after a drop-off last year and nearly busted himself to shit avoiding her. He wasn't furious with her (well, OK, just a little bit) but more with the rest of the spectators for not saying anything to her.
They also help riders know if someone's coming up from behind & about to overtake them, so they can best plan where to make a space to let them pass.
Marshall's are the unsung heros of all racing, from regional to international. Without them we couldn't race, it's as simple as that.
You also have them in motorsport (but without whistles everytime a competitor goes past) to help in case of accidents.
This however www.youtube.com/watch?v=VniQqEE2S1c
Also, XC isn't boring or slow if you ride the right bike in the right place in the right way