I love the mechanics response, "well thats line choice, He's gotta pick a better line". AKA not a darn thing I can do. And the no look spoke tune up. love it. lol
Haha it is pretty funny to see, but he is just tightening the spokes, he's not truing the actual wheel. I know that because I have the same wheels and I do it very often, it becomes natural
Yeah, any tech thats been doing it long can tension a DH wheel by feel. You don't need to look because you know its not perfectly straight, you just gotta get the structural rigidity back, not the true
@kylesligo - Only Ireland and UK to my knowledge run it like that in Europe. The rest of the continent is right-rear, left-front. Over here it's even referred to as Euro set up.
It was/is to do with the side of the road we drive on. In the UK, turning right on the road involves braking while signalling, this is easier to do while braking with the rear. Hence Rear-Left.
dirtyslim. You can always swap em, so in a way they come both ways. And I see bies like that in the US all the time. Or people ask to have it set up that way when they purchase a bike. Though it certainly more common across the pond
Its should really be down to personal preference in regards to which sides to put the levers, i like the UK set up as for right handed people (the majority), you control the front (and most important) brake with your dominant hand. Makes sense to me
@chadderz... yes but if you want to ride fast you don't want to use too much brake, excessive front brake (front brake being more powerful) slows you down too much, and excessive use of the front brake destabilizes things. Some riders use a lot more rear brake more to use the back of the bike as if steering with the back of the bike....lots more focus on getting the front set up right and not worrying about what is going on behind the rider (centre of bike/rear wheel), so for some people the normally dominant right hand is better set up for the rear brake. Also better in wet weather when you absolutely want to stay off the front brake on wet roots and greasy rocks and just sue rear brake. Just my 2c
He must be light to run those pressures, unless the tyres are stiffer than my Schwalbe "tubeless ready" No.3 Trailstars.
It's the law in the UK that all bikes must leave the shop with a right front brake and left rear. I think it's the same in Aussie. It makes sense. Most dextrous hand on the most important brake for one, and the obvious every motorbike ever made in the past seventy years or so has the right front setup. I don't know how a lot of these guys can ride their motorbikes with the right front and then jump on a pushbike with the left front. I think a loss of performance or control is inevitable, because it can't be as intuitive if your setups are different.
Ya, I always wondered how they could run such low pressure and be fine but if your goin through 3 or 4 wheels i guess in aint that big a deal
I ride moto too and I have never gone from one to the other and been confused. It does make more sense though to have brakes setup just like everyone else in the world!! silly americans with their flip flopped brakes and standard measuring systems!
My old bmx's came from the USA and had just a rear u brake with the lever on the right. But when i started mtbing i needed to relearn this braking thing. Had to run the bmx brake on the left, but upside down
We Britishers are the odd ones out, but our way has clear practical advantages. Same with driving on the left. Only a third of the countries in the world do that, but it has clear practical advantages. It's actually better to drive on the left, and it's actually better to have a front-right setup on a bike. Not just different.
So, carbon Glory in August? I haven't sen any spy shots as yet but they HAVE to don't they? Spesh, Trek, Santa Cruz, Yeti, there are more I've forgotten no doubt. I'm usually about five years behind the times but I'm fully sold on carbon. I definitely want a carbon bike next up. I can admire the engineering on a nice ally bike, especially something as beautifully made as a Giant, but those carbon rigs look like they were grown, not made. The carbon swingarm on the V10 has me salivating. Giant are going to be left behind if they don't release the carbon Glory for 2013.
How is it better to drive on the left? In Sweden they changed from driving on the left to driving on the right. Personally, I would trust the Scandinavians to make the right decision. I'm guessing you also think that imperial system of measurements is superior to metric.
As for the lever setup, it is down to personal preference. Same as tire pressure, fork compression, bar width, etc. What suits you may not suit some one else. Yes, it makes sense if you ride moto but not every one does, but there are plenty of riders out there who ride different lever setups on their mtb and their moto and it makes no odds. I had different setups on 2 different pushbikes at one time and it didn't make any difference.
Ultimately, it is all down to what you are used to and comfortable with, when it comes to things like that.
I prefer my front brake on the right as I am right handed and have more strength and control in my right hand. That's why it's better for me but it's just what you're used to as to where it is better.
As for driving on the left, it's better because we say so
this right-front and right-back discussion is bollocks..you say it's a clear advantage to use your right hand on the most important break since most people are right-handed, well that might be true if you haven't grown up riding bikes (and therefore havent braked that way for years) but even then i don't think it matters that much, it'such a simple movement to press a break and therefore your hand very quickly gains the sensitivity to do it with control and precision. it's a question of choice..IF and only if you started biking now, then it might me more handy to use your better hand on the front break. As for driving on the left...that's just silly! practical advantages?? rubish..it would be far more practical to do it the way the rest of europe does it. And the imperial measurement units...I believe everybody can tell the advantage of having 100 cms in a meter instead of 12in in a foot right? the metric units are related to each other in a very helpful way such as: 1Liter = 1 cubic decimeter, and many more, and there are countless conversions that you can do from one to another because they are so simply related. don't get me wrong, I actually love britain and its's gifts to humanity such as monty python and your breathtaking scenerys, but you guys are just as crazy as anybody else! and the royal family....well i'll just shut up lol keep it up danny! breaks wherever!
On my moto it feels natural to use right lever as front brake because all the braking stuff is on the right side is on the right side and the clutch and gear are on the left. No problems changing back to my pushbike.
I agree the imperial system of measurements is crap.
Obviously having the setup the same from motorbike to pushbike is better than having it different. If you never ride motorbikes less so, but still 90% of people have better manual dexterity with their right hand. True you'll get used to whatever you do, but that doesn't mean your performance is optimal. I almost crashed my motorbike last year by trying to do a fat skid up to my mother in law and pulling the clutch by accident (thinking it was the back brake) because I'd spent all weekend riding my pushbike. Mixups do happen.
The reasons why driving on the left is better are
1. Most people are right eye dominant and therefore see hazards coming from the right more quickly and accurately (check Wikipedia if you don't believe me).
2. Most people are right handed, and having the hand with the most strength and dexterity holding the wheel while the less important hand is changing gear is advantageous. If you don't know how to change gear perhaps you should learn, then you could see I'm right.
Anyone who argues these points is doing so from the heart, not from the head (i.e. you think your way is best but haven't actually thought about why).
As for Sweden changing over, I'd guess it was to fall in line with its neighbours and curtail cross-border problems. Maybe Wikipedia or a Swede could clear that up.
Apologies for wasting everyones time on the bike check interview. Next time we will just concentrate on which side the brake levers are and the pro's and con's of left over right etc..
Sharpy182 what I want to know is, how much does Danny get paid? Or any of the other top pros for that matter. Anyone know a ballpark figure? I'm only guessing but I don't think it's all that much.
I run my tires at the same pressures with tubes, last year running tubeless it was a bit less and never had a puncture with dual ply maxxis. Tried running single-ply with a bit more air and completely shredded a tube first run I hit it flat out, so no luck trying to shed a bit of weight from the bike. When you only weigh 140lbs you can get away with low pressures.
Those mechanics work their butts off! Also, they must go through the price of the entire bike in wheels and tires in one weekend, which I'm sure no non-pro would be able to manage. Very impressive.
Why does Giant stick with such steep head tube angles on their bikes? The Glory, Faith and Reign X are all about 1.5 degrees steeper than quite a few of their competitors. It seems kind of lame to force everyone to use an angleset on their bikes.
It's not the internet, it's the riders. Maybe not you, but quite a few people I know like slacker angles for the trails we ride. I've owned the Reign X and would have preferred it with a slacker head tube angle. I have considered buying the Faith, but I would definitely need an angleset for it. Just my opinion, not everyone has to agree.
The advertised head angle on a Glory is with a Fox 40 slammed. Giant should have put the range of angles as Specialized do for their Demo. I reckon the next Glory will be slacker. Just wait a few months.
Regardless, not everywhere is as steep as Canada. Australia is not as steep as Canada, and more Maestro bikes are sold in Australia than any other country in the world - and I'm not talking per capita, I'm talking units.
It's because Giant want to sell bikes that actually work well, not just please teenagers who look at their websites. That's why they put a 65.5 degree HA on the Glory. It is actually better for most people most of the time. It's also about tooling costs. They don't want to release a completely different design and then change it after a year because it goes out of fashion. What suits a WC racer pushing the envelope isn't the same as what suits you riding in your local woods.
Going against my first point, I think when they release the carbon Glory in August, the standard HA will be slacker. Maybe only a bit though. I don't know the exact numbers, but I believe the V10 carbon has a similar HA to the Glory and also the GT Fury has.
I run my bike at 65. I tested a TR450 set at 64 before I got it and it felt proper shit. Like a Raleigh Chopper. Let go of the bars and it falls over.
dont hate on a company for being 1.5 degrees off the fashion, because if you dont ride rock gardens at 40mph, but have lots of tight corners in your local downhill tracks, then 65.5 will be much faster and more fun for you. saying that, this years glory comes with an angleset already installed and next years is 64 degrees. looks like the fashion police gave them a stern talking to.
what I want to know is..... how much does he get paid?? he is the wrench man to the current world champ..... sure Gaint are paying him well hopefully. love the Tech vids he does, explains everything so well.
....... and does anyone know if Danny is still running his Power meter on his cranks? someone told me Sam Hill had one also, haven't seen any photos of this on his bike though.
Ferdinand Porsche said the perfect race car crosses the finish line in first place and then falls apart, or words to that effect, and well... you know... in German.
It was actually Colin Chapman (founder of Lotus). He also said that if it (the car) could keep going for a few more laps it was overbuilt and needed a bit more stripped off it! Mental!
I'm pretty sure the equivalent German saying would be the perfect race car would cross the finish line in first place and be able to be driven home after without problems (911)...
@kameraguy. Love it! Those German cars do just keep going and going don't they... If endurance races were a last man standing affair (so to speak) they'd go on for weeks at a time!
@ Skootur, Yup, though pricey when they do need maintenance, I like using the 911 as the "real world" race car example. There is a documentary on the 911 I watched where the whole point was to engineer a sports car that would be capable of being driven to a race venue, and just with a swap of tires be raced that very afternoon, then finally driven back home...repeatedly. Although I understand the notion that some race cars are stripped and preened to the point of barely "finishing"...I never bought into that as ideal. I find it more impressive from an engineering perspective if the car can do this while being perfectly reliable.
Danny's running 25PSI Back and 22PSI Front. I'm running 25PSI Front and 28PSI Back, though I must admit I'm 175lbs and Danny is about 150 at the most (Well I think). Is it just me or did he sound hesitant about pronouncing Danny Tire pressures ?
Honestly he should be a little - its just one more piece of info about their setup that competitors could hear - especially while still at the same venue before the actual race.
do you really think so?? all people involved in professional dh competition knows pretty well the best tire pressures for each particular rider! there is no need that demands to keep it a secret! btw, the hesitance is natural considering the setup variations for each track/tire...
pressure is an entirely personal preference and is stupid to be kept secret. i am only 135lbs yet i'm happiest with 26psi on both ends to prevent tire from folding in corners.
How about Danny running DT Swiss ex500 rims, those are for enduro I thought? Weight choice Being about 100g lighter each? I would roll the fr600 rim, but I NEED it.
Lot of WC riders run enduro rims for the weight shedding. Some DTSwiss riders run the ex1750, emilie siegenthaler (sorry for any spelling mistake ) even runs the tricon 1550. So yeah, they're trying to find the best choice between weight and strength. The Syndicate used to run AM rims from Enve, but now they've got the DH one.
do you mean it rolls in berms when you're railing or rolls in flat corners? cos i imagine somewhere like windham isnt lined with berms like aline or something like that.
Anyone else think it sucks that Giant raised the price of the Glory frame just because Hart won world champs last year? Or did nobody notice... It went from I think $1800 to now $2100, just because of that.
I think the bike industry as a whole has gotten prohibitively expensive, but I really don't think his win and the price bump is just a coincidence. However, nobody else will see this discussion really because it's being downvoted.
EDIT: Just checked on Pricepoint just for reference, the FSA Orbit headset it comes with is $150 (maybe cheaper elsewhere, didn't check), surely an OEM pays quite a bit less than the average consumer.
Some people are left handed. Some people don't like mint-chocolate ice cream. Some people are architects. Some people think being gay is a life-choice as well. I guess that's what college is for.
And the no look spoke tune up. love it. lol
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I have been using GripShite and was thinking on sticking the front brake on the LH to see if braking/gearchange feels better?
He must be light to run those pressures, unless the tyres are stiffer than my Schwalbe "tubeless ready" No.3 Trailstars.
It's the law in the UK that all bikes must leave the shop with a right front brake and left rear. I think it's the same in Aussie. It makes sense. Most dextrous hand on the most important brake for one, and the obvious every motorbike ever made in the past seventy years or so has the right front setup. I don't know how a lot of these guys can ride their motorbikes with the right front and then jump on a pushbike with the left front. I think a loss of performance or control is inevitable, because it can't be as intuitive if your setups are different.
We Britishers are the odd ones out, but our way has clear practical advantages. Same with driving on the left. Only a third of the countries in the world do that, but it has clear practical advantages. It's actually better to drive on the left, and it's actually better to have a front-right setup on a bike. Not just different.
So, carbon Glory in August? I haven't sen any spy shots as yet but they HAVE to don't they? Spesh, Trek, Santa Cruz, Yeti, there are more I've forgotten no doubt. I'm usually about five years behind the times but I'm fully sold on carbon. I definitely want a carbon bike next up. I can admire the engineering on a nice ally bike, especially something as beautifully made as a Giant, but those carbon rigs look like they were grown, not made. The carbon swingarm on the V10 has me salivating. Giant are going to be left behind if they don't release the carbon Glory for 2013.
As for the lever setup, it is down to personal preference. Same as tire pressure, fork compression, bar width, etc. What suits you may not suit some one else. Yes, it makes sense if you ride moto but not every one does, but there are plenty of riders out there who ride different lever setups on their mtb and their moto and it makes no odds. I had different setups on 2 different pushbikes at one time and it didn't make any difference.
Ultimately, it is all down to what you are used to and comfortable with, when it comes to things like that.
As for driving on the left, it's better because we say so
Obviously having the setup the same from motorbike to pushbike is better than having it different. If you never ride motorbikes less so, but still 90% of people have better manual dexterity with their right hand. True you'll get used to whatever you do, but that doesn't mean your performance is optimal. I almost crashed my motorbike last year by trying to do a fat skid up to my mother in law and pulling the clutch by accident (thinking it was the back brake) because I'd spent all weekend riding my pushbike. Mixups do happen.
The reasons why driving on the left is better are
1. Most people are right eye dominant and therefore see hazards coming from the right more quickly and accurately (check Wikipedia if you don't believe me).
2. Most people are right handed, and having the hand with the most strength and dexterity holding the wheel while the less important hand is changing gear is advantageous. If you don't know how to change gear perhaps you should learn, then you could see I'm right.
Anyone who argues these points is doing so from the heart, not from the head (i.e. you think your way is best but haven't actually thought about why).
As for Sweden changing over, I'd guess it was to fall in line with its neighbours and curtail cross-border problems. Maybe Wikipedia or a Swede could clear that up.
Love it! Those German cars do just keep going and going don't they... If endurance races were a last man standing affair (so to speak) they'd go on for weeks at a time!
cos i imagine somewhere like windham isnt lined with berms like aline or something like that.
I'm actually really curious to know?
He brakes the front wheel with the right brake lever, and the rear wheel with the left brake lever.
Strange
EDIT: Just checked on Pricepoint just for reference, the FSA Orbit headset it comes with is $150 (maybe cheaper elsewhere, didn't check), surely an OEM pays quite a bit less than the average consumer.
He brakes the front wheel with the right brake lever, and the rear wheel with the left brake lever.
Strange