Doping has cast a long shadow over road cycling in the past year. Case after case, rider after rider, team after team, it felt at times like there was no end to its reach through the sport, even though all the high profile cases were being dug up from the past. As I write this, Lance Armstrong has just confessed all to Oprah on prime time American television; that whole ugly circus has gone mainstream. Right now must be a painful time to be in road cycling as it tries to come to terms with its past and reassure the outside world that they have learned from those mistakes, that the present is a brave, new world.
Those worries have never really reached the shores of gravity mountain biking. While road cycling grew out of competition, mountain biking grew out of the late '60s hippie movement in San Fransisco. Wild, long-haired freaks on burly bikes, hurtling down the gravel roads. It's fair to say that some of them would have failed drug tests, spectacularly in some cases. Yet the substances they would likely have found wouldn't have been EPO, testosterone or human growth hormone. LSD, THC or MDA, any combination of the uppers, downers and hallucinogens that were common in that corner of the world at that time. The simple reason being that performance-enhancing drugs are no fun. Born from this free-wheeling world, downhill has managed to remain less tainted by doping.
Yet Enduro is different. By introducing an endurance element to gravity riding it brings increased risks with it. Enduro's founder, Fred Glo, admits, "Enduro racing is not a different dream world and we know doping can exist. Building technical trails will not be enough, doping can be a big plus, we all know that." So it was profoundly disappointing to discover that the French Cycling Federation (FFC) recently banned a rider for six months for using a banned substance.
The Facts and their ImplicationsThe ruling from 6 September 2012 states clearly that a French-licensed rider failed the test at the Megavalanche at St-Paul, Reunion Island 2011 and hydrochlorothiazide, a masking agent, was found in his sample. A study in the
British Journal of Pharmacology explains that masking agents "can be used to mask the administration of other doping agents by reducing their concentration in urine primarily because of an increase in urine volume. The urine dilution effect of diuretics also allows them to be classified as masking agents and precludes their use both in and out of competition." In other words, they make your body produce more urine, so the amount of the banned substance in your urine will be harder to detect as it's diluted further. The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) is clear in its guidelines that
hydrochlorothiazide is banned at all times. We also know that the rider's ban started 20 September 2012 and runs until 20 March 2013. These are all the facts that are available right now and from here the bigger problem grows.
Article 45 of the French Cycling Federation (FFC) regulations state: "Toutefois, pour les personnes majeures, cette publication pourra, en cas de circonstances exceptionnelles, être effectuée sous forme anonyme par décision spécialement motivée de l'organe disciplinaire de première instance." That roughly translates to that in exceptional cases, people found guilty of using banned substances can apply to remain anonymous. Frank Filbien, the FFC's mountain bike representative, explains that, "There is a special committee, independent from the national federation. This committee can decide that the rider's name will not be published. This occurs when the rider tells the committee that such a publication will have a very negative impact on him and, for example, that he could lose his job - let's say he has a bike shop and there is a possibility that many people stop buying things in his shop if they know that he has cheated. This decision is very exceptional. That's why the rider's name has not be published."
The obvious question is: why is this case exceptional? We don't know. Nobody outside the independent committee that made the decision knows why they have chosen to both punish and protect the guilty rider, even Frank Filbien doesn't know the name of the banned rider or the details of the case. He explains that, "French sports laws says that the AFLD is the French independent agency against doping for all sports. Each federation has to build a “committee,” whose function is to establish which punishment must be chosen for each case of anti-doping rules violation. In this “committee,” for our federation, there are five members and only one whom belongs to the FFC. The others are chosen for their specialist knowledge of health or justice. When a rider has been caught in an anti-doping control, the AFLD asks the national federation to establish the punishment, this is done by the committee which works in an independent way, neither the FFC nor the AFLD has any influence on it. If the national federation does not do anything before the required deadline, then the AFLD stands in for the committee." These experienced professionals, who probably have far more experience in dealing with doping cases than any of them would like to have, have taken all the facts into consideration and applied the appropriate policies and precedent in making a ruling.
Trust and Understanding the MediaWe find ourselves in a situation where there is anger flowing through the sport, a desire to see justice visibly done and to remain free of doping. Yet without a name that anger is often misplaced, riders' names are being thrown around, sometimes on no stronger evidence than that they are from the right country and happen to ride Enduro. Innocent, clean athletes are inadvertently being tainted by the toxic overspill from this decision. The modern media and the free-flow of information on the internet mean rumours fly fast and the void of information is inevitably filled with gossip and speculation.
People naturally assume the worst, the suggestion that the rider could have made an innocent or stupid mistake is not a popular one right now. The British Journal of Pharmacology article acknowledges that hydrochlorothiazide has several medical uses and the short, off-season sentence is very lenient. Interpreting this as a sign that the rider made a mistake with their medication is as equally plausible as the reading that it is masking a more systematic regime of drug use. Yet only one of these theories is in circulation right now, and the truth is we don't know.
Italian Superenduro organiser, Enrico Guala, is open in his criticism of how the case has been handled: "To me, all this speculation and all the arguments on who is the rider, is very bad for the other riders. It's a lack of respect to all the other riders. In what other sport do they do this? They just say this athlete is doped. It's a way to protect the other ones." For the riders there is another dimension too, it creates doubt as to whether they are racing on a level playing field. Enduro's first professional rider, Remy Absalon, says simply, "For me, I'm an athlete, I train to win. It hurts to know that some guys cheat."
What the committee has not understood is that mountain bikers clearly do not trust the wisdom of their decisions. There is a desire from every level of the sport to see it remain clean, and to do that we want and need transparency. Maybe in the past simply keeping the rider's name anonymous was a plausible thing to do, mainly because few people would have ever found out about the ruling and if they did they couldn't share the details as easily as we can today. The world has changed and there is a strong argument that this kind of decision is no longer appropriate.
The Wrong ResponseNot everyone in mountain biking seems to have a grasp on the situation though. French website, Endurotribe, approached George Edwards, the Megavalanche organiser, for comment on the matter. You can read
the full text of his response on their website, but the money shot is when he says "Néanmoins les caractéristiques sur lesquelles sont fondées les qualités nécessaires pour être performant en DH marathon/enduro n’offrent pas d’avantage prépondérant à l’absorption d’un produit dopant, ce qui atténue la notion d’un résultat immérité!" The short, rough translation is: "doping won't help in DH marathon/enduro because it's all about technical ability."
Anybody who has raced in the Megavalanche will tell you how ridiculous the suggestion that extra fitness wouldn't help is. Frank Filbien is emphatic in saying "I confirm that M. Edwards can’t have any influence on the decision taken by the committee. The members of this committee work in an independent way and must keep their decision secret. If not, they would be automatically excluded from the committee." So even if George Edwards is sticking his head firmly in the sand, he has no way of influencing the application of anti-doping procedures, which is reassuring to know.
The FutureFred Glo, the organiser of the French Enduro series is vocal in his discontent and has written to the FFC stating that, "The current situation is not acceptable with the information we have. I want to know what to expect if this kind of case comes up in the future in the Enduro series. If the situation stays like this, it’s a very bad sign to give to riders and it cannot stay like it is." Sadly, this isn't the first time Fred has faced this kind of situation. In 2008 a rider named Franck Parolin was banned for six months by the FFC for using a banned substance while competing in a road competition away from Enduro racing. That ban has long since passed, but Fred's approach is "zero compromise," and he will never again be welcome at a French Enduro series race. As a race organiser this is understandable, anything less means being sucked into a world of complex judgements and grey areas. This way the message for riders is clear: no drugs.
In this case, the truth is that we are going to have to live with the situation. It is likely that we will never know the guilty rider's name. Maybe we need to know more about the work of the federations and their committtees, request more information. Even in this case, surely more information could have been made available to help us understand what happened without compromising the rider's anonymity? Or is there a way the FFC could help the rider be public about their offense, but support them in explaining it to the world? Unless we are to build our own systems, we must trust the FFC, the AFLD, WADA and the other organisations that police these matters. As Frank Filbien rightly points out, "The main thing is that such controls can take place in any race, even in Enduro races (probably, some people thought it couldn’t be the case) and that’s a good thing for sport."
What we must not do is waste this energy, this determination to keep our sport clean, we need to channel it into the future and find ways of avoiding ending up here again. As Vernon Felton wrote so eloquently for Bike Mag last week, "Professional cycling, in fact, has never been a 'clean' sport. Rat poison, cocaine, speed, caffeine suppositories—people have been injecting, gobbling and sticking things up their arse in pursuit of the podium before the Tour de France was even born." We may share two wheels with road cycling, but we do not share the same soul. Mountain biking was not born out of competition, but out of fun, friendship and bravery on those slopes just outside San Francisco. Talking to Chris Ball, the director of the Enduro World Series, he said one of the most hopeful things I have heard in a long time, "We are committed to the sport and we will always put the sport before the individual." If there is one positive we should take from this whole sorry affair, it's that we don't want to follow road cycling down that road to victory at any cost and we will not tolerate people polluting our sport.
Technology is also a kind of dope, you have perfect example in F1, though there certain things are banned not because it is not right, but it would lower the interest in the sport. Yet people all cheer for new bike parts, and Enduro racing will bring more new stuff than we have ever seen. Enduro-racing-specific forks, drivetrains, frames, wheels. It is irrelevant whether we have it already or not, they will not rest until a badge is on it.
So one day we will get a good gearbox, people will cry from joy and burn cassettes and derailleurs singing Grace. Then some other day some bloke will put electric engine in the roomy gearbox compartment and win a race...
Just train and practice to ride your bikes that's all you can do. Dont worry about the dope
Lewis Hamilton does not run around the track, bike technology has nothing to do with doping, it is completely different. If lance rode his last Tour on a Specalised bike instead of Trek he would still be a cheat.
The argument is about physically enhancing what a human being is capable of doing, not one rider having kasmir coated forks and his oponents not?
This is a game with rules defined by humans and guarded by organisations like UCI, that everyone here bitches on. Off clurse we are so smart in MTB that we are going to make our own governing body that will never get cortupted and will be better. Talk to historia s how many times in history of humanity, people thought this way.
Relax, what is about to happen, will happen.
Drugs are as much a part of today as fuel increases,if you don't think people are taking them in their everyday training, you my friend are stupid.
Don't do drugs. Otherwise the US navy will come to your house at 2 am and blast dubstep until your ears are bleeding and you're seizing.
Doping does nothing to grow the sport. Spectators can't tell the difference. Doping is entirely selfish on the part of the rider/team/sponsors. A win while or after doping is hollow and unjust. People who don't feel a heavy sense of guilt after winning while doping have serious psychological problems.
There are plenty of jobs out there that pay much less than professional sports where they test for drugs. You don't get a 6 month anonymous suspension, you lose your job permanently. Even something as benign as having weed in your blood from a toke a week ago. All the athletes talk about the love of the sport and how they just want it to be their life and they are willing to take the 'risk' (which is hardly risky if you can be back in competition in 6 months). Take away the sport they love, and you will be amazed at how quickly they will see the risk as being too great.
Bottom line is this is not a problem they want to solve, and that is really disappointing.
Is your comment sarcastic? I can't really tell. If not then I'm sorry I'm not trying to be rude.
The reasons you provide as to why it can't be stopped are not reasons, but simply the symptoms of bullshit slap on the wrist attitudes from governing bodies. It's fraud. It should be treated as a criminal offence in all sports. Criminal charges for competitors, coaches, doctors, testers or anyone else who is proven to be involved. Bribery, blackmail, perjury, cheating for profit (fraud), are crimes. Why Lance is not going to jail, I do not know. If I pulled shit like that at my job, I would be in jail.
Lay criminal charges, no exceptions, and it will stop and we can all get back to enjoying watching unadultered human beings competing for the top spot. Then maybe some people you and I know who are unbelievably fit but won't dope will have a shot at doing what they love for a living too.
@ encorp. no, it would be lighter as its a lighter than air gas gas does have weight for sure but a gas with a lesser relative density is just that.
air weighs .076 lbs per cubic foot.
Riding a suspenson bike is cheating, too. Having gears is cheating. Having disc brakes, sintered pads, helmets,body armour, clipless pedals, mud tyres, eating sugary before a race, power gels, drinking sports drinks. They are all unnatural practices designed to gain an advantage. WADA, USADA etc only care about staying in a job. They are the ones who care about doping, and their reasons are shady. Who is paying for USADA? The American taxpayer. Do you really want to pay for Travis Tygart to drive round in an AMG? What difference does it make to you if a sportsman takes something on an arbitrary list?
It's not black and white, the media are not saints, God did not write the list. Get rid of the list, solve the problem.
Lance just did what it took to win. Tom Simpson is immortalised for dying on the Ventoux, full of drugs and booze. It seems to me the only difference between him and Lance is, one is dead. Get off your high horses and let them get on with it.
How many kids started smoking pot then moved onto cocaine then crack then dead. I have yet to meet a pot smoker that didn't dabble into heavier drugs. It's just Pot no it's just Hash no it's just LSD no its just Opium no it's just heroine. Honestly how nieve do you think I am? I went to collage. I've lived in the city. Ever time I see a crackhead I think of people like many of you. It's Just Weed Man. That's Bullshit and you all know it.
Then when one of your friends dies of an overdose of from drinking and driving. You don't quit doing the stupid shit that killed your friend. Noooo you go out and get all blasted out of your minds. Damn you people are stupid.
It's truly sad that so many of you find it necessary to get high to ride your bike, and make it through your daily life. If riding alone doesn't set you free you need professional help because your bad habit is the least of your issues.
Another thing all you potheads and drunks. All of you bitch about the price of everything and can never afford anything, but you always seem to be able to afford dope and booze.
The statements you make sound like you really took the D.A.R.E program seriously. The gateway drug theory is propaganda. Why don't you just mind your own business, get off your high horse, and let other people live their lives the way they choose. Stop judging other people. Drugs can lead to depression and other issues but not for everyone. Not everyone who smokes weed becomes a crackhead. Why do you think it was legalized in your state? Because it never should have been illegal in the first place. Mark my words: Within 20 years Marijuana will be legal in all 50 states.
If you went to college how is your spelling and grammar so bad? Oh right; it must have been all of the contact highs you have been subjected to. You are naive, and you need to give this argument up. You are not changing anyone's mind here. You are just making yourself look foolish.
Go take a bevy, it's good where you live.
Weed didn't originate in Jamaca. Its just thought to be a big part of their culture.
its kind of funny cause its easy to research and yet you doubt the validity of what bigh head is saying? Cannabis, Hemp ( part of the same family as hops ) have been around forever. In north america "weed" was referred to as "ditch Weed" cause it grew everywhere. I suggest you of all people ( one who often posts Long Seemingly informed rants ) do Some research of your own.
So basically there's a synapse, which is kind of an open space between the receptors (dendrite ) and the axiom ( referred to as carrier blob lol I cut and paste lots of this - dmadness )
Anyway, this type of system works the same for Dopamine and Serotonin. Dopamine is pleasure, motivation, and attention. Serotonin is positive thinking, confidence and the sense of well-being.
Nobody knows exactly why these molecules do what they do... yet.
So for the time being let's focus on the serotonin one.
So there's a bunch of serotonin molecules in the carrier blog thing. In normal life, there's a rate at which serotonin is released from the carrier blobs into the synapse and a rate of which it goes back in. The more serotonin is in the synapse, the more likely a receptor is going to touch a serotonin molecule, making you feel better.
Before I continue, I'd just like to say a disclaimer: This is all of memory so if some of these are wrong please correct me. Thanks.
MDMA (Ecstasy) prevents ecstasy from going BACK into the carrier blobs. This means that, as serotonin is released into the synapse, it is unable to go back in. It continuously will touch the receptors, making you feel f*ckin awesome. Eventually your brain will kill off all that serotonin in the synapse and the MDMA will be flushed out of your sistem.
Im all for ecological, organic, biodynamicaly grown cannabis, with no additions - this world needs slowing down
Speaking of policies and far fetched theories: The first mean of turning citizens into a submissive consumer goo happy from being submissed, was radio, then we got TV and then "smart" phones. Alcoholics do buy shit! So the question is whether legalization of Marihuana will make people even more submissive and still willing to buy stuff, or it would make them actualy wanting: less stuff, less work (less taxes) and more free time?
sent by an axiom, into the synapse and re-uptake ( absorbed ) by the dendrite.... My point is You were an ass to the guy who posted these true facts before and laughed and cut him down, So maybe you should be more humble about things you clearly dont understand.... yes?
Governments as far back as the ancient Egyptians have known this and that's why most of them have discouraged its use. Maybe now it's getting legalised in more states in America because you've got a f*cking bad problem with unemployment and the government would rather you sit at home getting roasted than out thieving and causing trouble in the streets.
You could buy cocaine and heroin in Harrods until about 1918. Sherlock Holmes was a user of heroin, and although a fictitious character, it suggests that was normal at the time. Who wants to post up here and admit to being a regular user of those, and say there's nothing wrong with them? No one serious, I bet.
As for weed being on the banned substance list as a performance enhancer, what a joke.
Anyone else remember when Mixmag or Ministry did a car driving test when the journalist took coke, weed, E, and Ket? The only one he was faster around the course on was coke. I'd agree it enhances performance, but as for the others... nah.
And anyway... who cares? If Gwin wants to make himself go faster by whatever means I'm all for it. Its not cheating any more than having a better bike or more practice.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
The dopamines work the same way. These (in my opinion) are drugs that are less eye-opening and more "feel-good" drugs. The don't provide any spiritual benefits or long-term happiness .
Weed works on dopamine. Weed act the same way as endorphins. Endorphins encourage dopamine molecules to be released into the synapse. It basically amplifies good feelings.
Cocaine is to Dopamine as Ecstasy is to Serotonin. Cocaine blocks dopamine molecules from re-entering the carrier blobs. This makes you feel like the f*ckin man (a "rewarded" feeling - like when you win the lottery, that's what dopamine is for).
These is where things get interesting:
Speed (amphetamine) is like cocaine, except that it not only blocks re-uptake, it also pumps out dopamine. So, it's a lot more powerful.
Okay - so - what happens when you run out of dopamine in your carrier blobs to be pumped into the synapse? Well, that's where meth comes in handy.
Not only does meth block the re-uptake, AND pump dopamines back into the system, it also has your body CREATE more dopamine. So what you get is a tripple wammy effect of awesomeness.
Heroin is basically endorphins x 1000 (like weed, but they probably work on different types of dopamines).
its winter, i cant bike so i study stuff in winter
anybody thinking that it can't, won't or doesn't happen in mountain biking, think again.
If you can train longer and recover faster, then you simply get better and fitter. No top downhiller isn't a 100% fit nowadays. They are all top athletes. So the risk exist just as much for me. I still hope all those guys are clean though.
As for diuretics alternative I would otherwise suggest having a good beer after the ride!
I don't think there is as much interest for gravity riders to use drugs than road cyclists. In road cycling, power and endurance are pretty much the only factors that will determine your rank at the finish line. On the other hand, in dh/4x/enduro/whatever, power and endurance do play a certain role, but other factors like riding skills, size of balls, line choices, etc have a way bigger impact on the result, and dope can't help you on these issues.
That being said, of course it's possible to find dope in dh community, but it's less likely to happen if you ask me.
But I agree, less likely. Especially since there aren't millions of dollars involved. "The love of money is the root of all evil." (I'm pumping out the quotes tonight).
The point still stand.. In some disciplines, the interest of using dope for athletes is way greater than in some others, increasing the chances of dope to be used...
I think taking the 'DH'ers don't dope because they don't need to' attitude is simply putting the wool over your own eyes. Many people in various sports have succumbed to the pressures and given in to taking PEDs, so what is different here? Taking a proactive approach (random testing for instance) instead would mean we have a better chance of keeping our sport untainted and clean. As the sport is growing, the need for it is greater now than ever.
As soon as big money is involved all it takes is a guy with strong desire to win as the only strong part of his character then wage as incentive to drop everything else he was doing for a job?
So who's to cheer for DH, or whatever in MTB growing bigger and reaching millions in front of TV?
Will it be more bikeparks, or more people in queue and more brake bumps in bike parks? more legal local trails or just more people on local trails eroding them? Choice is yours. To me dope is just a sign that a sport just stopped being a sport and turned into sick entertainment.
People riding trails don't watch commercials... So more we ride, healthier our sport is.
BTW On what legal ground can you stop someone from partaking in your race if the ban is long gone?
"You have to break some eggs to make an omelete."
What these pithy quotes add up to is this: Give a few riders a lifetime ban and it will deter others, and the sport as a whole will be better off.
When things get too big even those who watch watchers get corrupted and involved to a point where their career would go down the drain if they stand up against it. Not only theirs, once you go too deep, when you decide to jump out you drag down many good people with you. Cycling and athletics try to come out clean, but big toughs, like football, basketball, NFL, hockey, rugby, don't give a shit about dope - it would simply ruin the business... so they make sure nobody talks about it and that there are no USADAas in their changing rooms... and nobody will tell me that athletes in those sports don't drug themselves big time.
Performance enhancing drugs can be extremely harmful to your body. They can also allow you to do incredible things. Having a "doping-only" league would make it WAY more interesting to watch than those who are clean because they would be slower and weaker. Professional athletes are role models, and anyone aspiring to make it to the big leagues would be forced to make the decision to dope.
No only that, but who's to say that people STILL wouldn't dope in the "clean" league? After all, doping is to create an uneven playing field. If you willingly participated in a doping-only league, the playing field would then be even, defeating its purpose.
Personally I think that there needs to be transparency in all judicial matters. I know it's unlikely but who's to say he didn't pay them off? I believe it has happened in other sports in the past (though they usually have more money at stake) but now we'll never know. And to give a short off season ban and remain nameless is hardly a punishment really, he (or she) could spend the winter working their arse off and be back stronger for this season.
Longer bans, naming and shaming, more random testing (although I assume Enduro doesn't have the money for that yet) and transparency throughout the process is what's needed.
Tom KP
This special case is hard to start a discussion about fairness, justice, special courts and so on. But right now there a rules we accepted to play the game with. Many of us never asked about them. The case is the result of the rules defined ahead of this race. Maybe same rules need a special design to perform in enduro racing. A ban during a period without any races is useless.
But one thing I feel, there is no tolerance under the riders for the idea of maximum medical support. That is the difference in Enduro MTB and road racing. They showed open love to food that looks like medicine and nuclear pills to handle any pain. Teams had doctors like cars have spoilers. MTB is a different culture, let us protect it. Fight doping!
Long bans, not backdated, zero tolerance on excuses, bans while the case is being heard. Doping is a problem in all sports. If competition is important then people will bend the rules, so it's no use sweeping it under the carpet and saying "why do we have to care about this roadie nonsense in mtb"
Sponsors play a part too. Has this guy been dropped by his sponsors?
It's like saying someone is the founder of "downhill" or "cross country" without getting specific about which event or series we're talking.
i doen´t think enduro will see serious doping and lets hope it stays that way.
The problem isn't exclusive to road cycling, but in fact exists in all sports. It's a systems issue, not an individual sport issue. The UCI is pathetic in their approach to doping in their sports, turning over authority to the likes of WADA (and their affiliates). The problem is MUCH MUCH bigger than one person or one sport. People need to open their eyes to that and stop saying "it doesn't exist in our sport, so can they just stop talking about"... sorry to tell you, it exists... heavily.
www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2009/11/drugs-a-cautionary-tale
For instance: if a sponsored rider tests positive, then all of his sponsors would have to rename their products "steroid enhanced" . This would force the money to police themselves. A lifetime ban of a rider will not stop other people from trying to not get caught. The people that pay the money can prevent it from happening later.
yes you would thin the herd but there are plenty of cyclists in all of the disciplines to take the place of those who leave. How long do you really think it would be before athelites would not blow their one chance at living the dream of being paid to ride a bicycle. no exceptions...to much allergy medicine in your blood, too bad gone.
I know there will always be those who are ahead of the curve, nothing you can do about it till your scientists catch theirs, but that is why the punishment needs to be harsh. Imagine the frustration of those who truly love sport and competition going from Uci international level events to not even being in a local club saturday xc/dh/enduro event. People would stop.
go on tv, beg for forgiveness, admit you were wrong, thank you but you can't come back. We don't want you.
Doping Down hill (They can have Monday when we are at work )vs Drug free down hill (Saturday & Sunday oh any other time you like)
Doping Enduro((Should be given a weight penalty 20kg each time they get court) with drug test every hour, after a 3 hour dopy will be carrying 60kg £1,000,000 says do does not win) vs Drug free Enduro. Any time, just lookout from the soft bit(Dead doper) under the lead blocks or sand bags lining the trails.
Sorry drug are bad.
BUT I LOVE MY WEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One chance....severe lengthy ban, 2nd time....game over for good. Everyone deserves a 2nd chance and I don't care who you are or what you think, we ALL have made mistakes and deserve to be forgiven for them.
Another thing to point out, there will always be cheaters out there. Competitors are always looking for an edge. Baseball, Tennis, Track and Field etc etc. Doesn't make it ok, just doesn't only exist in the cycling world.
enduro athletes can surely benefit from many different types of drugs as mentioned here.. anabolics for fast recovery and muscle re-generation, blood doping to increase the oxygen carrying capacity of the blood so that you can go longer close to red-line... and not already mentioned are amphetamines which ward off fatigue and increase focus during long efforts (you would still have a razor sharp focus and could still select lines after 30 mins of being pinned)
i am troubled by the comment of the "founder" of enduro because this is the kind of assenine bullshit that we have seen from road and xc folks for years who have been a port of the problem.... as a new sport, enduro has a big opportunity to put forth the right vibe early on with regard to keeping the focus on fairplay and honorable competition...
Up until recently, Lance was an American hero. In the eyes of the casual observer not privy to the background going-ons, he worked his ass off and won the biggest contest in road cycling in the world 7 times. And because of those victories, he was rewarded with lucrative deals with major sponsors, notoriety, and lets not forget about Cheryl Crow. What lesson does that leave? Work hard as hell, and you can be a millionaire banging music icons and be able to get paid to ride a bicycle.
Fast forward to all of the discussion in the last week or so about how he cheated this and that and he is a fraud etc. Is he going to un-get all of those millions of dollars? Is he going to un-get his badass house? Is he going to un-bang Cheryl Crow? Nope. New lesson of the day? Cheat 7 times in a row and and you get all of the same rewards as above.
Ban him from the sport, erase his victories from the records. That's about as much discussion as it should garner.
Tour de France (Doped)
Everyone and their dog will get to see exactly how fast it is possible to go, and what exactly these drugs can do. All drugs under the sun are allowed, hell they could even have wee chats with the riders about what they are using/quantities etc + potential side effects (cant get it hard anymore, etc lmao).
Tour de France (au natural)
No drugs, no doping at all, just a demonstration of whats the maximum the human body can achieve without outside help.
Id happily watch both
joking aside, im sure some sort of performance enhancement illegal/legal is present in any sport. some ppl are always going to bend the rules.
Peace out yo
Original: www.endurotribe.com/2013/01/dopage-a-la-mega-la-position-de-georges-edwards-ucc/#toparticle
My translation:
"Thank you for giving me my say.
This news has two aspects: one very positive (if I may say) and the other negative…
On the latter, the anonymous nature of the test results may cast opprobrium on athletes in the top 20. Nevertheless, not all the skills required to perform highly in Marathon DH/Enduro are enhanced by doping, reducing the chances of an undeserved result! Without excusing the poor sportsmanship of the guilty individual.
What I take from this event, is that this intervention is indicative of a preventative approach at the heart of a niche mountain bike discipline that remains marginal and "untamed". At the same time, the All Mountain community may claim to have received positive attention from the sports ethics regulatory bodies.
I'm not in a position to tell the federation what they should do on the matter. However, I will respond to all official information and take action accordingly.
I wish you great pleasure in our shared passion for 2013.
Sportingly,
George EDWARDS"
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For an organiser to make such a stupid comment that doping to boost physical capability has no benefit in our discipline is nothing short of a joke. If fitness had no advantage, why the hell do we see guys like Atherton, Barel, Clementz, Absolon, Gracia etc all in fantastic physical shape and training hard on strength and fitness?
We need an open and honest system. Otherwise we too will be tainted like road racing and then no future achievements will be looked on as simply world class performances, questions will always be asked.
You reap what you sow ; the slow creeping ruination of a cool chilled left field sport
Whats all this BS about weed and alcohol?
This is an elite sport - amateur in the good old english sense of gentlemen`s agreement to play fair and at the end of a raceday, have a beer, or if you insist champagne, together at the tailgate.
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/875772/Army-heros-leg-torn-off-on-sled-run-Toboggan-crash-St-Moritz-Captain-Bernie-Bambury.html
It is nice to win but not mandatory, spirit and participation is everything.
The Enduro-brainfart will go away and transform into mild dh.
how bout the obama care? ahh who cares. ;-)
At what point do "supplements" become performance enhancers.?
The top level dh's are all incredibly skilled. Often their times are 100ths of a second different. So what might give one the extra edge?
In road racing they say look out for those who suddenly leap from doing well to doing phenomenal. Mr peat a few years back suddenly had a phenomenal season after a few years in decline. mr Gwinn jumped from top 15 to destroying the completion ?
I for one would hope that there is a line and that my heroes don't cross it but it makes me wonder.
One other thing. My wife used to be the person who chaperoned tennis players at Wimbledon after their matches. They were not allowed out of sight till the test was done. Not even to go to the loo. They were not allowed to drink anything or eat anything till the test was done. Our dh's are often handed beers from the crowd or sen swigging their sponsors energy drink straight after a race. How rigorous is the testing in do?
So far from correct it is unreal. Doping in sport is not just a case a swallowing a little tablet or a quick injection. The health risks are much higher not to mention the dangers of blood doping!
Pro Roadies and Doping? Well if ya want to win then I bet they all do it!
Doping = Without using brakes!
Punishment = Breaking bones!
... even i dope myself 10 oz of whatever 'booster', i will never win over Sam Hill or Brian Lopes.
But, one thing for sure, riding downhill/park itself is a good amount of dope for me .. thank you